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#1631353 strangest ingredient in your hot sauce?

Posted by spicefreak on 11 May 2019 - 06:06 AM in Hot Sauce Making

Nah, szechuan peppercorns have a uniquely anaesthetic heat to them, which is why they're commonly paired with chilli in chinese cuisine. Less ability to feel with your tongue means less sensation of heat and, by extension, opens up more room for enjoyment of the chilli's flavour. I'd imagine that overdosing on them would prevent you from tasting much, either, but my body has a naturally high tollerance for anaesthetics. Something which has caused me much suffering on occassion.

#1628836 Nando's Peri Peri hot sauce

Posted by spicefreak on 27 April 2019 - 08:19 PM in Hot Product Reviews and Discussion

Personally, I like their "Vusa" (the hottest) rather more than their other "hot" ones but I would agree that, in general, I prefer the taste of their mild items. They overrate everything a little, in my opinion, but their black label "extra extra" is at least hot by restaurant standards and the Vusa isn't too much milder than a typical Ghost sauce. Definitely worthy of my 4.5/10 heat, from what I remember.

In the end, though, perhaps peri peri isn't my thing but I find them decidely ok, both in their sauce range and in the actual food that they serve. Not bad, per se, just nothing great or special.

#1627708 What happens when you breed copyrighted peppers?

Posted by spicefreak on 22 April 2019 - 12:42 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

The copyright protects the name, not the genetic makeup of the pepper. You can grow the white bullet and sell it under another name if you want. However any reference, no matter how oblique, to the copyrighted name would land you in hot water. Calling it 'White Projectile' would be asking for legal trouble.


Pale Projectile Peppers!

#1627698 Variegated Superhot?

Posted by spicefreak on 22 April 2019 - 12:27 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Closest I've seen is the Pink Tiger but only its peppers are variegated and that's only with perfect genetics.

#1627691 Differences in Fidalgo, and Fidalga Roxa peppers ?

Posted by spicefreak on 22 April 2019 - 12:17 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Purple noble, yeah. My last look at the name meaning seemed to suggest that fidalgo was more or less a genderless term and only used a male ending because there wasn't a neutral one and most of those it would describe (at the time it was coined) were male. Which would make sense, given how many languages use male pronouns as collective or gender neutral ones.

My sources also seemed to suggest that there were other words for specific forms of noble and that "fidalgo" had mildly derogatory connotations, implying someone born into wealth with little sense of its value.


I cannot be sure, however, since I'm not well enough acquainted with the language to know the nuance for myself and it's entirely possible that one or both of the above are just the translators' own viewpoints being projected through their work.

#1611263 Name ONE humorous or strange pepper name

Posted by spicefreak on 05 February 2019 - 12:03 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Not Bubblebutt? Or would that be too confusing with the way people mispronounce Bhut?

#1610754 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 03 February 2019 - 04:00 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

People will work with it and make delicious things with it, if given a reason, but, so far, Pepper X has proven to be neither especially good nor bad in taste, IMO. Simply different to the more common supers.

I see no particular reason to go for it on flavour grounds, over the countless other uncommon strains out there.

#1610399 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 01 February 2019 - 07:44 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

I will say, also, that the Pink Tiger (same parents as "The Pain") didn't hit me anywhere near as hard. Its heat took after its Ghost parents. It takes a special blend of annuum capsaicinoid production and chinense production levels to really get the job done.


Do you two also find a certain soap-like quality alongside that annuum heat? From what I understand, that's another thing that only some people get and I have to wonder if the two are connected.

#1610297 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 01 February 2019 - 11:08 AM in Hot Pepper Talk

If straight pain is what you're after, you don't even want a pure chinense, IMO. The stinging heat of an annuum or bacatum is, scoville for scoville, significantly harder to endure, meaning that chinense annuum crosses like the various Bhut de Neyede strains can be absolutely unbearable when their genetics come through a certain way. Though the soapy quality that comes with also puts me right off.

#1610216 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 31 January 2019 - 10:57 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Here is another scary thought. As soon as Ed releases pepper x seeds, (the "reliable" source) how many people are going to buy it? When they released the reaper, they sold 120,000 seeds at $1 a piece, in the first 3 months. How many pepper x seeds do you think they would sell? Then, how long will it take for everyone to find out they aren't as hot as expected? Everyone will have some sort of plant. They wouldn't get their money back. They could be beefing up some BMMs over the last couple of years and sell $250k worth of seeds before anyone realized they aren't 3.17 million. Look at the reaper. It has the record at 2.2 million but nobody has ever had one tested above 1.6 something. Not even the Hot Pepper Institute could do better, yet alone all the hobbyists. Is anyone complaining or suing them because their reapers aren't what they are supposed to be? At this rating, the math says that people would be equally happy with a mustard that rates 2.3 million. These people know how to use the press and manipulate people to buy into what they have. Keep in mind they just used "chocolate pepper x" in the last version of last dab, so they have 2 kinds of seeds to sell you that might not perform. Alright, everyone line up to buy your pepper x seeds!!! You know you will at least try a few packs, just in case. It's from "the reliable source"!!!😁


I don't even understand why people see Ed as a reliable source at this point. Any degree of reading around will tell you that other chilli farms have far more consistent Reapers than he does. If I'm gonna get ripped off buying Pepper X seeds, at least I can claim that I did it first by going somewhere independant and not fund his explotative bullcrap.

After all, one of you guys sent me real Caramel Reaper seeds long before Ed had any for sale so, in my mind, a legit Pepper X, should such a thing even exist, is just as likely to pop up in some random 3rd party's collection as it is to come from him.

#1609844 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 30 January 2019 - 06:25 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

So, Dragons Breath is horse sh*t too?

I remember reading that it could cause anaphylactic shock, so did bother with it.


That was one guy involved with it misinterpreting warnings about possible allergic reactions to (all) peppers. The truth of the matter is that it's brutally hot but also far from stable and years off being consistent enough to claim a record, whether it's hotter than the Reaper or not.


So far, the hottest two that I've had have been the Chocolate Bhutlah PL and Fatalii Gourmet's Jigsaw Pepper, if you want a real next level chilli.

#1609827 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 30 January 2019 - 04:53 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Trust me, I'm just saying he's full of shit and everyone knows it. He seems to be living in a fantasy world were he is starting to believe his own tales.
There's other drama playing out in the background also, Ed is getting caught up in his on little world.


If Ed was living in reality, we'd never've seen a "Pepper X" to begin with. It only got announced when he saw Dragon's Breath as a threat and we all knew that that was dodgey from the get go.

#1609818 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 30 January 2019 - 04:31 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Nobody is going to try to beat the X b/c that chile is never going to see the light of day. 

If Ed Currie had a brown 5.3million chile, he'd have already released it.  If Ed Currie had a Pepper X, he'd have already released it.  If not for Troy Primeaux's generosity, he never would have even had the Reaper.  He'd be off mumbling to himself about Hab/Ghost crosses and the improbability of seeing a pepper with a stinger.


Oh, I don't disagree. I'm just trying to point out that the idea of him having hotter isn't new, even if it is highly improbable.

#1609802 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 30 January 2019 - 03:55 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Kinda long article, but Ed says he has more up his sleeve,lol.


He's been saying since day 1 that nobody should bother trying to beat the X because he's got a 5.3 million variety in reserve just in case.Rumours say it's brown.

#1608777 Pepper X

Posted by spicefreak on 26 January 2019 - 11:10 AM in Hot Pepper Talk

I bought some seeds to test. 90+% sure that they're fake but we'll see. So far none have even germinated.

#1606435 Pusa Jwala?

Posted by spicefreak on 17 January 2019 - 07:26 PM in Pepper I.D.

Thanks, dude. I suspect that the Jwala is just a shorthand that some people and companies use but I'm not entirely sure.

Either way, though, the pepper looks damn near identical so it's good to havethe confirmation of what it is.

#1605549 Pusa Jwala?

Posted by spicefreak on 14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM in Pepper I.D.

A jewish friend of mine handed me a bag of peppers with a couple of these in recently, apparently grown by one of her relatives. They all seemed to be fairly standard varieties so, between the indian annuum appearance and fruity undertones (which might possibly resemble apple peel), I'm thinking that this might be the much loved Pusa Jwala.

That said, though, I'm no expert on indian and african annuum types so I can't say anything for sure and, for all I know, it might be from her family's home in israel. Does anyone have a more certain verdict on this pepper's variety?



#1605544 7pot Club is fantastic

Posted by spicefreak on 14 January 2019 - 08:04 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

I'm not a fan of his Habañero pronunciation but his videos are pure gold otherwise.

#1605441 WeirdFruitExplorer

Posted by spicefreak on 14 January 2019 - 02:39 PM in Hot Pepper Talk

Yep, been subscribed to him for a while and I suggested a few mild but interesting varieties. Then he got this whole box:


#1605438 The Chilli Pepper Company's NEW Dragon's Breath sauce and dried chillies

Posted by spicefreak on 14 January 2019 - 02:34 PM in Hot Product Reviews and Discussion

It definitely seems to be a real pepper but there is no definitive proof of anything beyond that. Even if there was, though, it's a new variety not stable enough to hold a record. Unlike Pepper X, which has alledgedly been grown in secret for a decade. The fact that Pepper X still hasn't had the record that we were promised would appear over a year ago makes it seem very sketchy.


As for The Last Dab, I found my bottle significantly hotter than any Reaper sauce that I have tried but not even close to its 2.3 million SHU claim. Compared to extract sauces, it was more like 0.4 million.

#1593962 Jigsaw (Jukka@Fatalii.net Breed) For Pepperlover

Posted by spicefreak on 18 November 2018 - 11:22 AM in Hot Pepper Talk

It does not. The only ratings I've ever seen for it are ones that companies have fabricated for convenience and they're all blatantly inaccurate. Noone could possibly have found my harvest milder than Ghosts.

#1593671 European Seed train...

Posted by spicefreak on 16 November 2018 - 06:02 AM in Forum Ads

Just to confirm, package sent.

#1593654 European Seed train...

Posted by spicefreak on 15 November 2018 - 10:42 PM in Forum Ads

Recieved and picked out a few things but no last-ofs. Adding Pink Tiger, Fish Pepper, Puerto Rican Yellow, 7-Pot Bubblegum White, California Reaper, Fatalii Seeds' "Turkish Pepper" and some NuMex Lemon Spice Jalapeños.

Will send on to Mitzi tomorrow.

#1591865 "Must Have" Pepper names on a t-shirt

Posted by spicefreak on 06 November 2018 - 08:52 PM in Hot Talk

Ones that seem to be popular picks:


Rocoto (more a family than a strain)
Bird's Eye/Pequin (former is more general)
Scotch Bonnet
Bahamian Goat
Fatalii/Devil's Tongue
Peter Pepper (maybe just put Peter)
Pimenta de Neyede
Bishop's Crown/Ubá Tuba (2nd names is better, IMO)

Banana Pepper (just put Banana for the lols)




Ones that I second:



Cherry Bomb

Piper Nigrum

7-Pot (better not to overcomplicate with specific varieties, IMO)

Sugar Rush




Cheiro Roxa

Pusa Jwala

Bhut Jolokia Orange Copenhagen


Aji Pineapple


Other suggestions:




#1591666 Last Dab Reduxx sauce

Posted by spicefreak on 05 November 2018 - 04:11 PM in Hot Product Reviews and Discussion

I could also ask you if you eat products with imitation vanilla, like basically all commercial cookies, and ask you WHY you want to eat something that RESEMBLES Vanilla???? But I won't.


There are probably political, ethical and economic reasons not to eat real vanilla but the fake stuff is so lacking by comparison.

Make me fake vanilla that tastes better than the real deal and I'll never use pods again but I don't see that happening for a LONG time.