Neat read / watch.
http://iloveitspicy....butch-t-strain/
2 votes
The Trail Of the Trinidad Scorpion “Butch T” Strain
Started by ThePepperGrowingMan, Aug 18 2011 08:59 AM
38 replies to this topic
#1
ThePepperGrowingMan
-
- Members
-
- 676 posts
Hot
- Location:Illinois
Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:59 AM
ThePepperSeed.com
#2
AlabamaJack
-
- Extreme
-
- 15,361 posts
On Fire!
- Location:Fort Worth, Texas
-
Throwdown Crowns:
(x2)
Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:02 AM
yup...and we finally learn the age old answer to "Is it 7 Pod or 7 Pot"...
7 Pot
7 Pot
AJ
"If people will learn to "listen" to their plants, they will tell you what they want". AlabamaJack
"If people will learn to "listen" to their plants, they will tell you what they want". AlabamaJack
#3
ThePepperGrowingMan
-
- Members
-
- 676 posts
Hot
- Location:Illinois
Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:05 AM
yup...and we finally learn the age old answer to "Is it 7 Pod or 7 Pot"...
7 Pot
Yea, I thought that was really cool. 7 POT it is!!!!
ThePepperSeed.com
#4
Nova
-
- Extreme
-
- 13,472 posts
On Fire!
- aka:Fathead
- Location:Hunter Valley N.S.W.
Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:11 AM
Pot is cool with me. 
- ThePepperGrowingMan and souf like this
The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it.
#5
Justaguy
-
- Extreme
-
- 5,097 posts
On Fire!
- aka:JAG and Knepper's Peppers
- Location:Harrisburg, Pa
Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:12 AM
clarity finally
Thanks
Thanks
www.KneppersPeppers.com Hot Sauce
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
#6
skettle8
-
- Members
-
- 226 posts
Heating Up
- Location:Houston tx
Posted 18 August 2011 - 01:25 PM
Thanks for the info the clip was very interesting,some of us knew it was called 7 POT.There was a pepper called Pimento on the video does anybody grow them?
#7
RobbieWT
-
- Members
-
- 44 posts
Mild
- Location:Boo Town, MD
Posted 18 August 2011 - 09:25 PM
Arrrg!
At the time all this was going on I was going to a college about 7 miles from Valley View Farms, and I never went there.
Oh well, I'll go there sometime, it's only an hour drive.
At the time all this was going on I was going to a college about 7 miles from Valley View Farms, and I never went there.
Oh well, I'll go there sometime, it's only an hour drive.
#8
Pepp3rFreak
-
- Members
-
- 740 posts
Hot
- Location:Harrisburg, Pa
Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:44 PM
I stop into Valley View Farms occasionally as my business travels have me going down 83 from PA in MD often. I buy my veggies if I don't have specific ones germinating as they are always true to the breed and very well started. They specialize in peppers and tomatoes, just check the pic out below, the long stretch is 90% pepper varieties, on the flip side is the tomatoes, the place is amazing and definitely worth the trip if your not too far away.
Pepper Isle
ButchT in the USA
Pepper Isle
ButchT in the USA
My Favorite Response:
mmmmmmmmmmm....Man boobs are *so* much fun!
#9
Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:18 PM
Can heat up 7 pots of stew is what I heard 1 pepper 7 potsyup...and we finally learn the age old answer to "Is it 7 Pod or 7 Pot"...
7 Pot
I said, "ITS HOT!!"http://www.ebay.com/...9#ht_1209wt_932
#10
POTAWIE
-
- Extreme
-
- 10,912 posts
On Fire!
- Location:Potawie-land near Ottawa Canada
-
Throwdown Crowns:
(x2)
Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:41 PM
I love that Trinidad scorpion pic, but they really should have asked to use it 
According to CARDI(Caribbean agricultural research institute), the Trinidad landrace chile has always been called 7 pod, so I have to go with that
According to CARDI(Caribbean agricultural research institute), the Trinidad landrace chile has always been called 7 pod, so I have to go with that
Edited by POTAWIE, 19 August 2011 - 02:47 PM.
Check out my pepper pics and more on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potawie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potawie
#11
Newtune
-
- Members
-
- 384 posts
Heating Up
- Location:Ormond Beach, Florida
Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:55 PM
I will wonder about the origins of the Butch T no more. Thanks for sharing.
Edited by Newtune, 19 August 2011 - 03:55 PM.
#12
Justaguy
-
- Extreme
-
- 5,097 posts
On Fire!
- aka:JAG and Knepper's Peppers
- Location:Harrisburg, Pa
Posted 19 August 2011 - 06:45 PM
Is/was that one of your pics?I love that Trinidad scorpion pic, but they really should have asked to use it
According to CARDI(Caribbean agricultural research institute), the Trinidad landrace chile has always been called 7 pod, so I have to go with that
www.KneppersPeppers.com Hot Sauce
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
#13
midwestchilehead
-
- Extreme
-
- 893 posts
Hot
- Location:Tecumseh KS
Posted 20 August 2011 - 12:11 AM
I have heard that the Butch T was supposedly an accidental cross between the Trinidad Scorpion (obtained indirectly from Valley View farms) and a Cumari. True?
Calvin's 2.0 powder, New Mexico chile seeds, other varieties and some superhots! Grow your own and taste the difference!
http://www.midwestchileheads.com
http://www.midwestchileheads.com
#14
POTAWIE
-
- Extreme
-
- 10,912 posts
On Fire!
- Location:Potawie-land near Ottawa Canada
-
Throwdown Crowns:
(x2)
Posted 20 August 2011 - 01:47 AM
Yes, they gave me photo credits but they should have asked firstIs/was that one of your pics?
In my opinion there is no possibble way this chile is a cumari cross. It would have shown signs of being crossed early on but it has grown true for me for many years nowI have heard that the Butch T was supposedly an accidental cross between the Trinidad Scorpion (obtained indirectly from Valley View farms) and a Cumari. True?
Check out my pepper pics and more on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potawie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/potawie
#15
rainforest2
-
- Members
-
- 57 posts
Mild
- Location:VA
Posted 20 August 2011 - 12:26 PM
Pepp3rFreak,
If you buy Trinidad Scorpion pepper from Valley View Farms this year, you will not got the Scorpion pepper at all. They have some problems to germinate from their own seeds so they try to go out to get the Trinidad Scorpion Pepper plants from some sources. I bought 6 plants from them this year and none of them coming out Trinidad Scorpion pepper pods at all. I bought from them before in 2007 and it comes out with Scorpion with pimple/wrinkled pods. This years, the pepper comes out with smooth skin and it looks like Hanabero from Safeway or Giant foods grocery store. I email them and they said that they will give me 6 plants free next years but it will be long shot. I am not sure I am interested to drive all the way to Cockeysville to get those plants for free.
If you buy Trinidad Scorpion pepper from Valley View Farms this year, you will not got the Scorpion pepper at all. They have some problems to germinate from their own seeds so they try to go out to get the Trinidad Scorpion Pepper plants from some sources. I bought 6 plants from them this year and none of them coming out Trinidad Scorpion pepper pods at all. I bought from them before in 2007 and it comes out with Scorpion with pimple/wrinkled pods. This years, the pepper comes out with smooth skin and it looks like Hanabero from Safeway or Giant foods grocery store. I email them and they said that they will give me 6 plants free next years but it will be long shot. I am not sure I am interested to drive all the way to Cockeysville to get those plants for free.
#16
Justaguy
-
- Extreme
-
- 5,097 posts
On Fire!
- aka:JAG and Knepper's Peppers
- Location:Harrisburg, Pa
Posted 20 August 2011 - 10:45 PM
So the seed stock got screwed up. They need to reconnect with a good source.
www.KneppersPeppers.com Hot Sauce
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
#17
papadaca
-
- Members
-
- 295 posts
Heating Up
- Location:Atlanta Georgia
Posted 31 August 2011 - 11:19 PM
the Butch scorpion is just an example of selective breeding.So the seed stock got screwed up. They need to reconnect with a good source.
A mutation occured and it was further bred.
Climate and soil and conditions took care of the rest.
#18
AlabamaJack
-
- Extreme
-
- 15,361 posts
On Fire!
- Location:Fort Worth, Texas
-
Throwdown Crowns:
(x2)
Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:25 AM
A mutation occured and it was further bred.
Don't know whether I agree with this or not...
The selective breeding part is what we all do...select the pods with traits we like/want for next years seed stock...
AJ
"If people will learn to "listen" to their plants, they will tell you what they want". AlabamaJack
"If people will learn to "listen" to their plants, they will tell you what they want". AlabamaJack
#19
JayT
-
- Reviewers
-
- 12,660 posts
On Fire!
- aka:Da Da DAAAAAA!
- Location:Mountville, PA
-
Throwdown Crowns:
(x5)
Posted 01 September 2011 - 06:33 AM
Why have I never heard of this Valley View Farms before? Damn. I am only an hour from there. I am going to have to check it out.
Edited by JayT, 01 September 2011 - 06:33 AM.
I was elbow deep in the pulling process. I couldn't take pictures of myself doing that.
I drink hhwiskey.
I know a snapper when I see one.
#20
Justaguy
-
- Extreme
-
- 5,097 posts
On Fire!
- aka:JAG and Knepper's Peppers
- Location:Harrisburg, Pa
Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:52 AM
Well the 2 I got said Trinidad Scorpion Habanerothe Butch scorpion is just an example of selective breeding.
A mutation occured and it was further bred.
Climate and soil and conditions took care of the rest.
on the tag. Both have hab shaped pods that are just a little hotter then a Caribbean Red Habanero. IMO the seed stock got corrupted. Maybe they can get in tough with Neil or Butch and get them back on track if they want Butch T's. Many other true sources for just Trinidad Scorpions.
www.KneppersPeppers.com Hot Sauce
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
Taste the Flavor, Feel the Heat
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users
