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#321 jsschrstrcks

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:41 AM

Currie tests different combinations of food, water, and mineral intake to see which one creates the hottest pepper. And he thinks he’s found it. Right now he calls the pepper HP22B. Guinness World Records officials are looking at the pepper to see if it is indeed the world’s hottest.


So he's testing for environmental factors that push a chili to its max... Which means that on top of the variability of a variety, without the knowledge of his growing conditions, its improbable that we'd ever be able to grow something in the same heat ballpark... Which is kind of dissapointing.

The environment might force extra capsaicinoids into each pepper. But unless the environment can be duplicated our mileage will vary.

At the same time, the mildly exciting part is that if they ever release their methods for pushing a pepper to produce at its peak potential using environmental preasures, we can push other peppers in the same way.

All in all its cool :D

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:05 AM

looks like the cat is out of the hat. So if this is posted on a public forum

"Welcome!
To the PuckerButt website, you'll find information about our products and over the coming weeks we'll be adding recipes, and more! PuckerButt Pepper Company is home to the hottest pepper in the world, Guinness world record pending."

Why would PepperJoe go all Area51 on us? It seems that PepperJoe was out to hype his business but he went about the wrong way like Potawie and other have said. I myself will never do business with pepperjoe even if he is selling 600 new chili seeds.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

oh if that is what he is talking about then I am disappointed. I remember reading about this and thinking it was stupid if it was going to be crowned. So is it the particular chilli he is entering or the method of growing it? Or both? So what chilli is he actually using to enter?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:16 PM

I googled them, and found their facebook:

https://www.facebook...ny/159796076482

and a video of a guy eating one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-XjyFGkpBM&context=C3e4c444ADOEgsToPDskIo_apk66Aj2B2f6b9cUdZU

anyone curious about the pods can see for themselves :)

and the pepper they are shooting for a 2m average on:

https://www.facebook...?v=766764905276

My thinking was the fact they are publicly available on the facebook site, and made available to the public meant that it would be no big deal for these to be up here... If I'm wrong hit me up, and I'll remove the links :) Don't want to step on anyones toes.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:38 PM

here is pepperjoe's TOP SECRET worlds new hottest pepper the HP22B

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:58 PM

How do they come up with these new breeds? Genetic engineering? If so, I wouldn't want to eat it. GMO crops are evil! :snooty:

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

Based on the way they are talking in the video, they get them from the good ole fashioned sexual hybridization...

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:38 PM

What's with some of the names for seeds on that guy's site? Jamaicamecrazy Habanero? Posted Image
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:41 PM

So why not leave the name as HP22B... or by the way this guy talks about it... Crack.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:52 PM

In terms of marketing, its not that catchy I guess.

Although Jamaicamecrazy is not my favorite either... but to each their own :). I'm still probably going to grow some. haha.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:04 PM

here is pepperjoe's TOP SECRET worlds new hottest pepper the HP22B

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OK now I'm confused even more. Is that it's nose or it's umm err uh tallywhacker?

I think I am done with this thread. I'm sure when this pepper is officially announced a fellow chilehead will post a link to the site where we can read all about it.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:27 PM

here is pepperjoe's TOP SECRET worlds new hottest pepper the HP22B

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Kind of looks like a 7 Pod Primo?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

It looks EXACTLY like a 7 Pot Primo. Identical in every way.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

not sure if you guys watched the video, but the pod in the video is different than the one in the pictures that followed...

Just saying :)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:17 PM

not sure if you guys watched the video, but the pod in the video is different than the one in the pictures that followed...

Just saying :)

if you look at the pictures in their facebook on that pepper picture it says "this is the new baddest pepper in our family, more to be revealed, we need a name, any suggestions"

which sounds like it would be their hotttest pepper without a name.

another photo from facebook

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

I guess each of us can come to our own conclusions based on the evidence shown. I won't try to convince everyone to come to the same conclusion as I have. Just be careful, do your research.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:11 PM

Hey Gang,
THANKS you for the continued support and brilliant creativity coming out of our Free Seeds contest.
I actually used a few of your names as possible recommendations at this weeks meeting.
What a week. I'm still coming down from the high with our trip on Thursday. Also, it was an exhausting 16 hour day.
And it's all good.

I was hoping that not many folks would be waiting with baited breath for news...because again, there are confidentiality issues...and I don't want to undermine or take anything away from the future press releases. But then I peeked at THP, which admittedly can become addictive...and knew I was compelled to answer some comments. Also, I've jumped the gun before (GUILTY as charged) and want to make sure anything I say or report is irrefutable.

My favorite movie is "The Godfather" and it's additional movies.
In Godfather 3 Michael sez "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in".
Even though I SWEAR to myself I'm going to take time off from this thread (we are slamming busy in the seed business) I'll read a post from one of the '6 critics' (I know who they are and you know who they are) and feel compelled to answer. I realize I'm stupid for doing that, but I think if I don't answer my silence will be misinterpreted as me being wrong or unwilling to address an issue.

Let's get that nonsense out of the way first, then I'll state some tangible facts, some Thank-You's, then we'll wrap up on a real positive note. (about worthwhile Charities).

Nonsense
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One antagonist sez
"You can call us idiots"


and his buddy sez :

"Calling your potential customers on a very dedicated pepper forum idiots"

SURE...every 23 year old company with 10,000's of satisfied customers do this. SURE WE DO. That makes perfect sense, right? For any Newbies here....please see the review on my Company in teh "Vendors Vault" to get a more objective opinion.
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What I ACTUALLY said...and the ONLY time I used the word idiot...I SWEAR TO EVERYONE....PLEASE go back and look...What I said was "Don't you boys get it yet (meaning THEM...the 6 antognists)...most people don't care about your negative attitudes. Go join "Ted the Fire Breathing idiot"...be the next 'THP' Suicide..." "Just go away"

That was the ONLY time I used the word idiot...referring to poor Ted which he gave that nickname to himself.

These 6 guys are questioning your intelligence making up erroneous statements like that. Do they not know you can easily go back and read the thread? Adn see they totally gave it a DIFFERENT meaning? Wow.

After this post...I'm not wasting my time on these 6 Dudes. So when you see I ignore them...please don't misunderstand that. Don't think I'm not answering them for any other reason...just don't have the time for this...

I just don't have the time for this nonsense. If the REST of you have a reasonable question, just email me. If I can answer it, I will.

"If its a new hottest pepper it has to be over 2 million SHU doesn't it?"

This question may have even been asked in good faith...or it was baiting me...not sure...
but in MY perception, of course the next Worlds Hottest Pepper doesn't have to be over 2 Mil. SHU.
Why would it have to top a one-off number?
I'd say the next Champ will have to have a MEAN or AVERAGE number over the current Champ.
I've said preciously my guess was that it would be about 1.3 Million SHU.
Can I please change that to 1.6 Million. HINT. HINT.
And here's my favorite:
"so tomorrow is the big day...... Lets start another contest to see who can guess what Joe's excuse is gonna be about the meeting getting postpone.
1. Joe ate some of the new top secret worlds hottest peppers and he had to go to the hospital.
2. Joe's dog ate some of the new top secret worlds hottest peppers and his stomach blew open."

So then I visited THP and looked around last night...and he sez"

"So he logged on last night and he didn't bother to post. I guess the meeting didn't happen. This is all BS if you ask me."

But THEN he posts this TODAY: "here is pepperjoe's TOP SECRET worlds new hottest pepper the HP22B
WOW....that's quite a change in demeanor. wow. Without an explanation. I love free speach...but that's the problem with Blogs...anybody can say anything anytime. Then it's out there...and often they have no resonsibility or accountability for it.

The only reason I'm addressing this nonsense is I don't like School yard bullies that 'pile on'. That takes no guts. We knew how to handle them back in the day.

Look Gang, I understand Freedom of speech. I understand the Blog mentality.
I get it all. But do we not call out complete and total nonsense??

THANK YOU
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A big THANKS to these THP folks....

Miloziz: Patience...people...

DJSketchie: It doesn't sound like Pepper Joe is crazy scientific about things, so some of his original information might have been misconstrued or an exaggeration, but I also doubt that he is a fool when it comes to business and marketing (having been successful in the seed selling business for a long time) and willing to stake his reputation on a stunt or a prank.

And then he sez:

I don't know about you guys, but given this information, it doesn't sound THAT far-fetched that Pepper Joe at least knows a guy that might challenge the record. All the other stuff about 6,000 varieties (most likely 1st generation hybrids, which is entirely doable in a short amount of time) and Chinese peppers sounds more like someone was playing "Chinese Whispers," a.k.a. "The Telephone Game."

DJ , Thank you...but PLEASE...it's 600 varieties, not 6,000. :rofl:Let's not get them started again....

HHammerfall Good Pepper joe (p.s. Hammerfall I love your names Machette and Guillotine...Machete got a LOT of attention at this weeks meeting...THANKS)

Dulac: Your name "Mojo" had our Mojo going.

Patrick: Thanks Joe and have a safe trip.

Woody3says: Good post :)
MRZ1988: As far as the Pepper Joe 'Chinese origins' and what not, it sounds like someone misconstruing c. chinense as c. chinese and some simple naive farmers playing the telephone game turned this into "came from China". It's an honest mistake and I think a simple correction goes a long way here. No reason to put peoples reputations on the line. I'm still looking forward to seeing this new pepper for myself as a hobbyist and enthusiast but I have no belief that we can ever nail down the hottest pepper in the world.
Great thread I just wish there were less finger pointing and elitism going on here, but maybe I'm just taking things the wrong way.


Etc. etc. Thanks all for your support Gang. I absolutely appreciate that.


Some FACTS
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Fact: I did view several Greenhouses and farms. We have a ton of pics and video. I have NEVER seen so many flowers and tiny buds (next generation plants) on Chile plants. Unbelievable. The developer knows his stuff and I can learn a LOT from him.

Fact: I did meet with a Professor in the Department of Chemistry, Physics and Geology at a respected University that explained testing methodology, the machines functionality, etc. I even understood a little bit of what he said. :halo: I have pics and video to share later.

Fact: I did meet with the entire start up team of 4 folks. I don't want to be too specific...but two of them worked for a household name Fortune 100 Company.....and he and his team rolled out a product that is top of brand...another household name.

(I told the developer of the Hottest Pepper...I wouldn't want to have his payroll costs :halo: ).

Again, this team is top notch, credible, accomplished and have integrity. I've said that repeatedly and I stand by it.

Fact: This pepper is not kinfolk to the Douglah or 7 pod.

OK Gang...time to wrap up.
I do have a vested interested in all of this...naturally. Pepper Joe's is not a non profit organization.
So I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this to secure a bunch of seeds. I totally believe in it and the developer and his team.
I have no control over the timetable of the roll out.
When it happens, it happens.
I'm going bye bye for a while here....I hope!
(but I am looking for some worthwhile Charities to donate a bunch of seeds to for different worthshile causes....and may post here)
"Pazienza miei amici, pazienza."
Fiery Regards,

Pepper Joe
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Fiery Regards and Great Gardening, Pepper Joe
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:16 PM

there is not any legal reason for me to call a bluejay a bluejay

if i want to call my ford car a feferroni i can

you and can not make anyone call their 'primo' a 'painstrain' or an 'anal blisterer'

the seed sellers can call what they sell anything except someone's copy righted name


we use these names typically to tell the others we deal with what they grow like

the vendors name things to get more sales { big difference }

if you do not like the names do not use that

name call them "armpit hair red" if you want
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:09 PM

So Joe can you confirm,is it the HP22B?
Also I would think that if Guinness were going to accept it, it would have to be over 1.4M to take over the TSBT. Whether it is the mean or high heat they wouldn't put a chilli in that is under, people wouldnt get it.
So if it is tested at 1.6 million then it is still possible for the Moruga Scorpion to be entered and take over this "new" one.... I wonder if Dr Bosland is going to enter it. If so then this one wouldn't last very long and the HP22B would then be dethroned......
Not saying any of this to be negative just trying to sort out the facts and be constructive.

Edited by Wildfire Chilli Australia, 17 March 2012 - 07:10 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:11 PM

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Edited by Indiana_Jesse, 17 March 2012 - 08:19 PM.






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