I don't see anyone in this thread is saying it's a Primo, or another chile pepper in disguise. Maybe I missed it. It seems many see the "naga x habanero" cross claim as quite perplexing - given the strong similarities to other varieties. Either way, it's cool to see a new cross get the record. Congrats!
It tastes unique compared to other superhots. Nothing like a 7 pot. I don't like how they marketed the pepper, but it tastes really good imo. It's a good pepper. I'm kinda happy a good tasting pepper has made it as the "hottest." The Moruga and TS Butch T. taste terrible to me.
Dulac, how all the cross-breeding works could probably take up a whole forum unto itself. I'm not a grower so I can't comment about all that.
True. I don't think Ed is lying to us about the cross.
"Habanero" is probably code for 7 Pot or Trinidad Scorpion of some sort, "Naga" is probably code for Dorset Naga or something like that.
I don't think it was a naga x a 7 pot or TS because of the flavor. A sweet pepper that isn't a superhot seems to be used to get a sweet flavor. He might have backcrossed the naga many times with the sweet habanero to get the heat and flavor right. It's possible he introduced a 7 pot or TS, but if he did, the breeding had to be very complex and laborious to get the sweet flavor.
Up to H strain ?
A through H makes 8 generations by my count.
2013 back to 2008 is 6 years (inclusive).
So, 8 generations in 6 years? (A genuine question without malice since I do not know much about what's possible or not).
Yeah, it's possible if you live in the right climate or grow indoors. You could do 8 gens in less than 6 years even. I bet he grow a ton in his greenhouse.
I can get the HP22B, but I won't go on record saying why I won't at the moment. I wouldn't want anyone to misinterpret me about Ed's glory at the moment.
If I could get the "real deal", i would be happy to volunteer my time and effort to grow it directly alongside my Primo's. But, I have probably 150 odd plants at the moment I'm caring for and I don't think I could grow enough reapers to get a big enough harvest to be useful - you know, the one versus many philosophy.
No need to grow them side by side. I've eaten them both. The flavors are radically different. I don't care for the grower either but don't take it out on the pepper! The flavor is different than other superhots, which is something we should embrace. Not only is it different, but it tastes very good.
edit- can't answer to NuHot's statement of $$$ being the reason. It's almost kind of blasé now.... (yawn) another hottest pepper? Having talked with Ed for quite a while afterhours at a festival, I don't think that's Ed's main motivation, but, can't say for sure as I'm not Ed!
I suspect money isn't the the motivation either. It seems absurd to spend so much time and money on trying to get the record for the purpose of making money.
Edited by Dulac, 15 November 2013 - 03:01 AM.