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#1 Nick08*

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:35 PM

*Information about added varieties on page 3*

 
 
Hey everyone! Long time lurker here... been using this site as an incredible resource for my everlasting search for face-melting heat. Decided to finally put all the knowledge I've gained to use, and grow my first super-hots!
 
This year was my first ever outdoor garden (and things went great!) along with many typical garden veggies, I grew some Thai chili's and orange habanero's. It's so awesome seeing all your hard work end up at the kitchen table. That being said... I've got growing fever now! Our outdoor season here in Idaho ends in Sept. - Oct. if you're lucky, and doesn't start back up until April-May'ish. That leaves me all winter with nothing to grow. So I decided to move things indoors to hold me over. I've always been fascinated with hydroponics and figured this would be the perfect time to dabble.
 
Enough with the boring background... and onto the juicy part: details and photos!
 
My grow includes:
Two 7 pots: Brain Strain and Douglah 
Thai Chili (saved seed from summer plant)
Nature's Bites: a cherry tomato (had some new seeds I wanted to try)
 
I had some storage under my stairs that I was able to convert into a makeshift grow room. I am using a 600w HPS bulb, and General Hydroponics Flora 3 part nutes.
 
In addition to my grow, I decided to conduct a mini experiment on seed starting... I read tons of stuff online about soaking seeds to speed up germination. Especially when soaked in a mild Hydrogen Peroxide solution. There was much debate whether soaking made any improvements so I though the best way would be to answer the question myself. I planted 12 seeds of each variety, 6 natural and six soaked for 24hours in a H2O2 solution. The "Natural" (un-soaked) seeds went in 11/13/13, and the soaked went in 11/14/13.
 
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11/18/13: my tomatoes popped (no difference between soaked/natural)
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11/20/13: my first Thai chili's popped (natural first)
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11/25/13: several Brain Strain's and Douglah's are up (mixed between soaked/natural)
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12/02/13: starting to see some real progress in the seedlings!
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12/07/13: even more growth all around
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12/07/13: first look at my grow area
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12/09/13: first transplant! (Needless to say I nuked those poor plants with a blast furnace right above them) Its a learning experiment, right!? Good thing I started way more than I needed for backups.
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12/27/13: after several rounds of trial and error I was able to get my plants to take in my new grow room
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NOTES:
 
Brain Strain-
11/22/13: 1st sprout up (Natural)
11/25/13: 4 H202 sprouts up, 2nd Natural
12/2/13: 5/6 Natural + 6/6 H202, first set true leaves on couple plants
12/3/13 First fertilizer soak (diluted)
12/6/13 Second fertilizer soak (diluted)
 
Douglah:
11/25/13: 3 Natural sprouts, and first tip of H20sprout up
12/2/13: 5/6 Natural + 3/6 H202, first set true leaves on couple plants
12/3/13 First fertilizer soak (diluted)
12/6/13 Second fertilizer soak (diluted)
 
Nature's Bites (tomato):
11/18/13: 6/6 Natural + 5/6 H20(over weekend)
11/22/13: Most plants have first true leaves (still small)
11/25/13: First fertilizer soak (diluted)
12/2/13: Multiple sets true leaves
12/3/13 Second fertilizer soak (diluted)
12/6/13 Third fertilizer soak (diluted)
 
Thai Chili (Hybrid? saved seed from summer garden):
11/19/13: First glimpse of sprout (Natural)
11/22/13: 5/6 Natural + 2/3 H202
12/2/13: Most plants have established true leaves
 
 
Fertilizing (nutes): General Hyroponics Flora Series 3pt (Grow/Bloom/Micro):
Waited to add any nutrition until first true leaves had formed, but added fertilized water immediately after since rockwool is sterile and inert, I figured the little plants would get hungry fast.
 
While plants were still in the propagation tray I would flood the bottom with nutrient solution and allow the rockwool to soak up as much as it could, and drain out whatever water was left. I would do this as often as the rockwool felt dry: initially about once a week, moving to multiple times per week as the plants grew larger. At this point I was using 1ml grow + 1ml bloom + 2ml micro / gallon water. ~300ppm
 
When plants were first moved into their grow buckets, I used 2tbsp grow, 1.5 tbsp micro, and .5tbsp bloom / ~4 gallons water. ~7-800ppm
    -May be a little high for some varieties, Thai and tomato loved it, 7pots got some serious nute burn. Maybe try 500ppm
 
First signs of blooms/blossom drop on tomato nutes were changed to 3tbsp bloom + 1.5tbsp micro + .5tbsp grow / ~3 gallons water. ~880ppm
 
Tap water here is about pH8+ so I was being lazy at first, and not testing or adjusting my pH. Once I noticed some iron/magnesium deficiency symptoms in my peppers, I realized I needed to be checking my pH as some nutes were getting locked out. After testing, and realized I needed to add about 1/2 cap full of pH Down to each nute refresh and check to make sure pH was starting around 5.5 and climbing over the time it was used. This cleared the symptoms pretty quickly.
 
 
Transplanting:
12/9/13 first transplant: WAAAAYYYY too early, absolutely fried those things. Need to wait much longer 3+ true leaf sets, and keep the light high until they plants are used to it.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:39 PM

Nice!  I am growing inside with potting soil... I fear this pepper addiction of mine is going to pull me in the direction of hydroponics eventually.  


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:45 PM

12/29/13: Sorry about the HPS tint

 

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01/06/14: continued progress (Douglah still being a runt)

 

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01/06/14: Tomato is going crazy!

 

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:45 PM

Awesome set up

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:47 PM

01/06/14: Peppers up close

 

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01/06/2014: last surviving backup plants still at the office

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Hope you all enjoy things so far! Wish me luck! And if you have questions/suggestions please don't hesitate to speak up!

 

 

Happy Growing,

 

 

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:49 PM

WoW! You hit the ground(or water) running!

Good Job.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:49 PM

I like the clear cups!  Screw the red solo cups from this day going forward.  


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:53 PM

Thanks everyone! :dance: 

 

You probably dont want to use clear cups for a long term grow though... the roots need the dark. They were all I had at the moment, and they look awesome! But i could see problems possibly resulting... I'll keep you posted though!



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:57 PM

Thanks everyone! :dance: 

 

You probably dont want to use clear cups for a long term grow though... the roots need the dark. They were all I had at the moment, and they look awesome! But i could see problems possibly resulting... I'll keep you posted though!

 

Good point.  I just love seeing how all aspects of the plant are developing.  Maybe I will do one or two for kicks.  I am following this thread.  I would love to see a fellow noobs experience setting up a hydro grow.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 01:01 PM

I like the idea too husker! What we could do is put the plant in a clear cup and put that one down in a red cup. That way they have the dark they like but you can pick them up and look in when you want.

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 01:11 PM

I like the idea too husker! What we could do is put the plant in a clear cup and put that one down in a red cup. That way they have the dark they like but you can pick them up and look in when you want.

 

Now there is an idea!



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 01:15 PM

That's what happens when pepperheads brainstorm! Ha

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:33 AM

 

Good point.  I just love seeing how all aspects of the plant are developing.  Maybe I will do one or two for kicks.  I am following this thread.  I would love to see a fellow noobs experience setting up a hydro grow.

 

Well... no problems yet going forward with the clear cups on my backup plants. Actually, I might just have to save these things since they seem to be doing so well, maybe not backups after-all!

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Not to mention they look so cool sitting in my office, all my co-workers are fascinated!  :cheers: 


From left to right Brain Strain x2, Douglah x2, Furthest right and back are the Thai chili's. The Thai's and baby Brain got too big for the rockwool I started them in, and dried out over one of the weekends so I've been trying to nurse them back to health.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:27 AM

Nice grow!

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:43 AM

Looking great, all these GLOGs remind me that I need to start thinking about what I am going to grow and get on it!


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Well done, Nick!  Looks like you are

putting what yo have learned to good use!

 

Good luck going forward!


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 11:58 AM

Cool looking start! Nice avatar too. I've used clear cups before and did eventually have green mold on the sides from the lights. Definitely a good idea to have the dark opaque cups on hand like Pepperjack mentioned.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:47 PM

Nice grow!

 Thanks Jamison!

 

 

Looking great, all these GLOGs remind me that I need to start thinking about what I am going to grow and get on it!

Thank you! ...Indoor or outdoor? Or both?

 

 

Well done, Nick!  Looks like you are

putting what yo have learned to good use!

 

Good luck going forward!

 

Thank you too! There's alot to learn... but this site is an infinite resource!

 

 

Cool looking start! Nice avatar too. I've used clear cups before and did eventually have green mold on the sides from the lights. Definitely a good idea to have the dark opaque cups on hand like Pepperjack mentioned.

Good luck with your season

Mike

Glad you like it (the start and the avatar)! My grow list is nowhere near most of you guys, but once I get things down I hope to expand!

 

Also... check out my ghetto :cool:  fix to the clear cups! 

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 ...and I can even still pick them up and check 'em out  :party:



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:27 PM

01/10/2014: A bit more progress in the peppers...

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The Thai is starting to get a few little buds! Should i pinch them off for now, or does this look large enough to let them go?


One last shot... the whole room. Did quite a bit of suckering to the tomato after this shot, but the HPS kicked on so i figured it wasnt worth re-shooting under the awful lighting. Quite a few flowers on the tomato as well, but seem to be getting some blossom drop. Still trying to nail down the culprit..

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Also... do my Douglah's leaves look a little wrinkly to you pro's? I just checked the PPM ant it was about 880! Higher than I wanted, and thinking there might be some over-feeding issues going on with that little guy.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:42 PM

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