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Pimenta de Neyde are so freakin` cool!!!

mx5inpa said:
Anyone got experience topping these? Or other auxin redistributions?
 
I was thinking of doing the same thing. My pimenta de Neyde plant didn't grow indoors enough to top. I got the seeds a little late (my seed stock was infertile from picking them too early), but I really wanted to try to get a head start and top it to make it bushy. I think topping and pruning would help the plant in the long run.
 
Off topic, but I love the H. L. Mencken quote.
 
 
 
On a side note I think the reason the pimenta de Neyde stays purple is because it ripens to a white color that doesn't show through the purple. I could be wrong though. This could be tested by taking a white pepper and mix it with a purple that turns red.
 
Dulac said:
On a side note I think the reason the pimenta de Neyde stays purple is because it ripens to a white color that doesn't show through the purple. I could be wrong though. This could be tested by taking a white pepper and mix it with a purple that turns red.
 
Agree with this. My PdN was quite pale on the inside. Do not have any good pictures of it. But should be visible on this one. PdN pods are in the lower part of the picture
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Not growing PdN this year. I don't really fancy the taste. But I do have a cross  :dance:
 
Main reason for doing the cross (besides have fun) was to get a different color with the purple. Just look at the Pink Tiger.
 
The annuums, mostly considered ornamentals, that have purple leaves, stems, and pods that ripen to red that I have tried all have a similar bitter taste.
The PDN is suspected to be a chinense annuum cross. I would think it would taste different for this reason. I will know before long.
Has there ever been DNA analysis on the PDN to know if the suspected make up is correct?
 
wildseed57 said:
AjiJoe mentioned that he didn't care much for the flavor.  I wonder if that was because it had a bitter taste, as I have found that some purple ornamental peppers have a distinct bitter taste to them. The plant is quite cool looking though,  I'll have to try and get some seed of it for next year.
they where a little bitter but it was more because i personally thought that they lacked flavor
 
thanks your friend joe
 
I think some of the crosses with it might have more flavor, I'm wonder though if  the C. annuum side of it is the cause for the lack of flavor if it was a ornamental variety, this is just a guess though. I have a purple annuum x galapagoense that I have been growing out and trying to select for the galapagoense traits, the small pods which has been all kinds of shapes with varying amounts of purple still continue to have a bitter after taste with little or no flavor.  So I'm wondering if if the annuum side of the PDN. is the cause of the lack of flavor and slight bitter after taste. Perhaps crossing it again like the PDN Faun might have a little better taste to it or selecting for more flavor might help?  Still just as it is its still a cool looking pepper. 
 
mx5inpa said:
Will de Neyde pretty much cross with anything? Anyone know?
 
Chinese and annuum cross together with no problems. It should also be able to cross with baccatum and frutescens. Is there a particular species you have in mind?
 
I have some Pimenta de Neyde growing. I planted the seeds last November I think. I haven't put them outside yet, except during the day. I watched a video on youtube once which gave me the impression that they grew really big and gave out very few fruit but mine have been relatively bushy and have given loads of flowers. The only other plants I have been able to cross them with so far are white habaneros and Bih Jolokia. I am hoping my white Bhut Jolokia will give out flowers at the same time. I just missed out crossing it with a Trinidad Scorpion Butch T.
 
Not that I have any room to grow any of the seeds that I am collecting at the moment.
 
Beautiful plant though. I have a few fruit ready to pick. Maybe I should eat it tonight! That could allow me time to plant the seeds for this year.
 
The Pimenta de Neyde is one of my all time favorites - more for looks than taste. It doesn't like direct sun, so I put them in partial shade where normaly peppers don't thrive. It doesn't like wind either, but grown in clumps helps a lot, gives them better support, it seems they like it crowded. It's not a great producer but gives good yield. And it's the easiest pepper imho to root from cutting. 
 
Still one of my favourite varietys in just about every way,never found the flavor bitter though and as wayright said let the pods start to go soft a little then harvest.As for crosses they do so easily and grew an unstable white neyde a few years ago and a orange hybrid.Bless Neyde for finding this great plant in her garden.

 
 
mememe said:
The Pimenta de Neyde is one of my all time favorites - more for looks than taste. It doesn't like direct sun, so I put them in partial shade where normaly peppers don't thrive. It doesn't like wind either, but grown in clumps helps a lot, gives them better support, it seems they like it crowded. It's not a great producer but gives good yield. And it's the easiest pepper imho to root from cutting. 
Strange, I thought that also as on mine the leaves started to distort at the tips. I breifly moved them away from the light and over a short period of time recovered. I have since then increased light out put to 1000w and moved them back within the full effects of the light and the leaves have actually started to turn purple from the largest leaves graduating into the new leaves, whereas the plant had been green from sprout on.
 
GA Growhead said:
The annuums, mostly considered ornamentals, that have purple leaves, stems, and pods that ripen to red that I have tried all have a similar bitter taste.
The PDN is suspected to be a chinense annuum cross. I would think it would taste different for this reason. I will know before long.
Has there ever been DNA analysis on the PDN to know if the suspected make up is correct?
To my knowledge, there has been no sequencing data published using Pimenta de Neyde DNA. 
 
Nigel said:
To my knowledge, there has been no sequencing data published using Pimenta de Neyde DNA. 
I have not found any thing myself in many searches. Thanks for the reply.
I did find this though. It's has pictures of the mother plant from the seeds Ms. Neyde had purchased, as another variety, from someone online in Brazil. A little history, in Portuguese, once you translate. A cool read if your up for it.
https://www.pimentas.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8
 
Very interesting looking plant! Is on my wish list for next season, and will know if will grow it in 2016 only for nice look or also for the taste.
 
These things grow so slow.
 
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This is the only one I topped. The rest look like annum sticks. Except the maroon one. It's a 1/3rd the height of the others.
 
These have been in full sun/weather since getting moved out of the greenhouse. I am thinking these will grow better in a partial shade.
 
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