Just wanted to show some pics. of my garden plants vs. container plants , the garden ones are huge . I would like to Thank Joyners Peppers for his words of encouragement and advice the last couple of months . Also to my very good bro 96strat for helping me get started way back in january, giving me advice every time i asked, sending me seeds , helping me when they were little and had cal. deficiency by sending me mixes , when i had those stupid white flies inside the grow room , and sending me some powder. he has been a great and true friend through my first grow season ! I can't thank him enough . but Thanks again for all your help ! Moruga Welder .
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cruzzfish said:
how so
but u can just transplant them into pots... so its the same
Chile peppers are annual plants in areas that freeze, such as where you and I live. However, they are perennial in the tropics and subtropics. You can bring your container plants inside shelter for the winter, and keep them going for several years. Alternately, when cold weather hits you can dig them up out of your garden, slap them into containers for the winter, then replant them in the spring. Left outside in a hard freeze they will die.
Next year for me....0000000000000000000000000 containers...
I bring em in in the winter and on harsh storms. This obviously doesn't apply if you live in a warm climate that doesn't storm.Swartmamba said:
Edit: And transplanting into pots causes shock, meaning you have to do it earlier in the year before you start hardening them off, which means less peppers. Also, sometimes the roots are too big for that and it dies.
You are most welcome and your plants look awesome!moruga welder said:
just want to let everyone know , that i didn't put this out there for a controversy thing , i like the containers and mobility in out of the storms and bugs , and so forth . i was just getting involved and thanking joyners peppers and my good friend 96 start with their help on my first grow year thats all . thanks again 
They will only live longer if you bring them in, so that frost and cold winter weather does not get to them.
Living in Missouri I have over wintered some of my wild and cultivated peppers for up to and over 5 years. It takes some work to do so, especially if you want them to keep producing pods. Its easier if you just want them to go dorment and just sit there in what ever room or basement area under some lights and watering just enough to keep them alive, you have to be ready for attacks of pest whiteflies,aphids,mites or mealy bugs or anything else that might like your plants as snacks. Even your dogs or cats can give you heartakes when they are sprayed by cats or watered by your dog sometime dogs or cats will try and eat your plants or use your plant containes as a litter box.
But growing them in container that are big enough during their growing period will give you very large plant I do both in ground and containers they both have their good and bad sides it just depends on the amount of work that you want to go through.
Your photo's of your peppers by the way look great.
Living in Missouri I have over wintered some of my wild and cultivated peppers for up to and over 5 years. It takes some work to do so, especially if you want them to keep producing pods. Its easier if you just want them to go dorment and just sit there in what ever room or basement area under some lights and watering just enough to keep them alive, you have to be ready for attacks of pest whiteflies,aphids,mites or mealy bugs or anything else that might like your plants as snacks. Even your dogs or cats can give you heartakes when they are sprayed by cats or watered by your dog sometime dogs or cats will try and eat your plants or use your plant containes as a litter box.
But growing them in container that are big enough during their growing period will give you very large plant I do both in ground and containers they both have their good and bad sides it just depends on the amount of work that you want to go through.
Your photo's of your peppers by the way look great.
We have hundreds of gophers, plus ground squirrels and rabbits. Our soil also has Fusarium wilt fungus throughout. When coupled with the fact I live outside San Diego, containers make sense, even for the 400+ plants I have this year. However, I am trying to create a permaculture garden so I can see if that will provide a way to combat some of the issues we have.
As for peppers being annuals in colder climates and not in warmer/tropical climates. No question it`s true. I have a Jalapeño plant that is 7 years old and still going strong. Chinense are a little more tricky to overwinter here. I kept 40 plants from last year and only around 20 survived. The coldest temps we see are around low to mid-40s occasionally, but more often it sits around 50° at night in winter.
As for peppers being annuals in colder climates and not in warmer/tropical climates. No question it`s true. I have a Jalapeño plant that is 7 years old and still going strong. Chinense are a little more tricky to overwinter here. I kept 40 plants from last year and only around 20 survived. The coldest temps we see are around low to mid-40s occasionally, but more often it sits around 50° at night in winter.
Your plants look great! There are benefits to both techniques.
The title of the thread, "Garden vs Containers" is one that has been debated on this website and others for many many years....
I, for one grow in containers because I don't have a "garden". Every plant I grow is either in a bed or in containers and has been for a long time....
Soil type/quality is of utmost importance when growing peppers and I, for one have found that I can control what nutrients the plants get when I grow in containers enough I get 7 foot plants...I have posted pics of my pepper plants in the past and they get absolutely huge in 5 gallon nursery containers....I am on a drip fertigation system I designed/developed myself with automated timers to adjust the volume/flow of food/water the plants get...let me announce right now, not all my plants get that large... ...but the Bhut/Naga and Trinidad varieties do get that large...
Genetics is also a huge factor and I won't try and explain it because you all know what I'm talking about...
After seeing my cousin grow the scorpion plants for me a couple of years ago using a similar feeding/watering schedule in the ground, If you want huge plants and lots of pods that could be used in a commercial operation, ground is the way to go...
Geeme....the only plant that I leave outside and has survived the past 3 or 4 winters is my wild Tepin...it seems I has a will of it's own to survive....and we had a "hard" winter for North Texas this past year...my mother has the sister plant to this one planted in one of her flower beds down in Pensacola....
the key to growing peppers is to find out what works for you, then tweak that system every year with new knowledge that has been learned since the last season....no matter how you grow, after a few years, your plants will be beautiful, large, and very productive...
I, for one grow in containers because I don't have a "garden". Every plant I grow is either in a bed or in containers and has been for a long time....
Soil type/quality is of utmost importance when growing peppers and I, for one have found that I can control what nutrients the plants get when I grow in containers enough I get 7 foot plants...I have posted pics of my pepper plants in the past and they get absolutely huge in 5 gallon nursery containers....I am on a drip fertigation system I designed/developed myself with automated timers to adjust the volume/flow of food/water the plants get...let me announce right now, not all my plants get that large...
...but the Bhut/Naga and Trinidad varieties do get that large...Genetics is also a huge factor and I won't try and explain it because you all know what I'm talking about...
After seeing my cousin grow the scorpion plants for me a couple of years ago using a similar feeding/watering schedule in the ground, If you want huge plants and lots of pods that could be used in a commercial operation, ground is the way to go...
Geeme....the only plant that I leave outside and has survived the past 3 or 4 winters is my wild Tepin...it seems I has a will of it's own to survive....and we had a "hard" winter for North Texas this past year...my mother has the sister plant to this one planted in one of her flower beds down in Pensacola....
the key to growing peppers is to find out what works for you, then tweak that system every year with new knowledge that has been learned since the last season....no matter how you grow, after a few years, your plants will be beautiful, large, and very productive...
I agree with AJ. In short, I defer to "it depends." Containers allow for a more controlled environment, which can be good or bad depending on how able you are to control said environment. I travel occasionally for my job, sometimes a week or more at a time, and not having any fancy equipment, planting in the ground gives me a bit more security. I can have someone water the garden occasionally and at least know the plants probably won't die on me.
I still have several container plants, early in the season they tend to outperform the ones in the ground (presumably because the root zone is warmer), but by this time of year everything in the ground starts to outpace the containers. Largely a watering issue, also I probably don't micromanage the ferts for the container plants well enough.
I still have several container plants, early in the season they tend to outperform the ones in the ground (presumably because the root zone is warmer), but by this time of year everything in the ground starts to outpace the containers. Largely a watering issue, also I probably don't micromanage the ferts for the container plants well enough.
I have found that containers if big enough have no real differences from plants in the ground. I have plants in containers that are huge, and in many cases bigger than my plants in the ground. But I think the real difference is the ways to take care of plants in containers vs. the ground, I do use more water and fertilizer for the ones in containers, and they do dry out quicker.
Next year I'm trying 100 plants in fabric pots, and the rest in the ground, so I'm interested to see what the difference will be. I'll be using 7 gallon fabric pots. So we shall see!
Next year I'm trying 100 plants in fabric pots, and the rest in the ground, so I'm interested to see what the difference will be. I'll be using 7 gallon fabric pots. So we shall see!
LawrenceJ2007 said:
I tried the fabric pots and was very impressed with them....I think I was using 10 gallon ones