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Sluggy glog 2015

Documenting the new season ! 
Early start because the weather is crummy here in the Netherlands.

Aji Panca, a (very) mild, Peruvian oddball strain that actually tastes like blueberry.
Frickin BLUEBERRY ! How kick ass is that ? 
The first leaves ("cotyledons"  in botanical nerd speak) are unusually big.
Never seen seen seedlings with such huge cotyledons. 

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Assorted seedlings, with White Bullets and Choco Morugas in the back.
These are under 6 small neon tubes that I really should be replacing soon. 
It's working, but not all that well. 

 
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Bonchi fun !
Just a month before the picture of this CAP219 was taken, this was just a little stem without any green on it whatsoever. As I predicted, this strain appears to be very suitable for bonchi-making. first off because it's a very fast grower, this thing just went off. And also because the branches are remarkably flexible. You can bend them FAR, without them snapping off. This is good for "training" with wire and twine. You want to bend those branches and shape your bonchi. 
The pods are not so bad, even, chuck a handful in a Thai type stirfry and you're rockin' that wok. 

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This was a 7-pot (I think) from my balcony that I totally neglected, it was keeled over (literally) and I thought it was a goner, but when I decided to turn into a bonchi it really bounced back. 
It immediately started chucking out new growth. Curiously, no branches, the leaves are fairly large and seem to be growing directly from the main stem. Perhaps that has to do with the red color LED light, which I read results in short, stocky plants. 
A bonchi growing on a  rock always looks cool. Plus I'm a rock kind of guy anyways.

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I made several other bonchis, some of then began to form buds almost immediately. Also pretty weird. Maybe we can get some flowers and buds on them even. Pics to follow soon. 

Here's one of the useless chilli experiments I like to conduct for shits & giggles. 
Two 7-pot yellows on a windowsill. Obviously it's winter, so the days are short and there is no sun. Left plant gets 30 watts of supplemental LED light, right plant gets 11 watts of supplemental CFL (but bulb is much closer). Let's see what happens. I plan to leave these guys here all throughout the new season. 
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Homemade, DIY LED panels at work. Seems to be doing the trick even with notoriously finnicky strains like White Bullet. The rest of these are superhots (mainly choco Morugas and Jays Peach ghost) which are also not the easiest strains to grow. 

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Some people on a FB chilli forum have been talking trash, claiming that what I say about LEDs, light wavelengths, spectrum etc. is "bullshit", before going on to say how LEDs are "outdated" and "obsolete", and la-de-dah.
Now unless you have a PLASMA LAMP in your growspace, which is kinda like having a chunk of the actual SUN in there (at a hefty price). I really don't see how LEDs are "outdated". In fact, they are far from outdated, and seeing as how their performance continually keeps increasing, while prices keep dropping, it would seem their full potential hasn't even been reached yet. So unless you can come up with some proof or data to back those statements up, why don't you STFU. Silly ass. It's that simple. 
Lookee here, 14 plants (all Chinense, mostly superhots), under ONLY 90 WATTS of DYI LED fixtures. It seems to be working so far.  
JUST 90 WATTS, okay ?

Just saying.  My new DIY panel is almost finished, I think it'll work FINE. More about that later. 

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Would love a link to the FB forum.  My best guess is that people are speaking about the first generation of LED grow lights which really do suck.  From what I understand, the LED advantage is being able to more accurately provide what plants want without using up the electricity to provide light in spectrums they can not use.  It seems to me that its the plasma that is outdated, well more silly than outdated, because it provides a full spectrum.  Why turn electricity into a light and heat that a plant doesn't need?

I am HPS and MH only becaue I can not afford good LEDS, but the prices are coming way, way down.  You rock for being so advanced.
 
ajdrew said:
Would love a link to the FB forum.  My best guess is that people are speaking about the first generation of LED grow lights which really do suck.  From what I understand, the LED advantage is being able to more accurately provide what plants want without using up the electricity to provide light in spectrums they can not use.  It seems to me that its the plasma that is outdated, well more silly than outdated, because it provides a full spectrum.  Why turn electricity into a light and heat that a plant doesn't need?

I am HPS and MH only becaue I can not afford good LEDS, but the prices are coming way, way down.  You rock for being so advanced.
Thanks for the kind words ajdrew...

It is true that the first generation LEDs really do suck. You may be able to grow some basil or something with it, if that. 

The 1w and up LEDs don't HAVE to be very expensive if you go DIY.
I buy Chinese/Hong Kong/Singapore/Taiwanese stuff on eBay. Sure, they've been getting a bad rep for some reason but just a couple bucks for 10 diodes postpaid is a good deal. (The 660nm ones are a bit more expensive). 
I've only gotten gypped with some 10w LEDs that were faulty and just didn't work, but that's an exception, not the rule. 

A 350mA driver that will power 25 or 1w LEDs maybe 8 bucks US if that. Also postpaid. 
Then I buy these circuitboards for 12 LEDs,they are maybe 2 bucks each, and heatsinks are a must.
I cannibalize old electric equipment, like old stereo equipment and broken PC's that people throw in the trash or buy the heatsinks $ 4,59 or so, postpaid as well. 
You will need thermal glue or paste to prevent the LEDs from burning up. That heat has got to go somewhere.
It has happened a few times that some of my LEDs popped but that was my own fault for underestimating the heat they emit.
Broken LEDs are fairly easy to replace anyways. 

Obviously you'd have to have some basic knowledge of soldering, but it's no rocket science. 

My main concern is saving on my energy bill in the long run.
(When I lived in the US I paid $ 0,09 per kilowatthour, here it is 25 EUROcents per kwh. So that's over 3 times as much.) 
HPS or MH is simply a no-no for several reasons. 
I just like to play around with this kind of stuff and experiment. 
My findings are that even low wattage, say 30 watts in the right spectrum as SUPPLEMENTAL lightsource makes a VAST difference when growing chillies indoors on a windowsill. It just does, and I can prove it. 

Will look for that FB forum. I'm on half a dozen chilli FB forums, but this one guy was being a royal jerk. 
Maybe he was just trolling. 















 
 
Sluggy said:
Documenting the new season ! 
Early start because the weather is crummy here in the Netherlands.

Aji Panca, a (very) mild, Peruvian oddball strain that actually tastes like blueberry.
Frickin BLUEBERRY ! How kick ass is that ? 
That sounds awesome!
Your bonchis are looking good.
Good luck :)
 
This is the article that really got me to thinking LEDS.  Our Drug Enforcement Agency once said there was no legal crop profitable to grow under lights.  Maybe they were right when they said that.  I know the only way I profit from indoor growing is that the plants only start indoors.  But that seems to be changing thanks to LEDS.  Not sure if it is profitable yet, but it is getting there.

With climate change being so very random, I have to figure inside growing is going to become more and more important.  Since being underground taps you into the natural warmth of the earth, I figure things like the thing in the link are going to become more and more common.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-02/11/underground-farm-zero-carbon-food
 
Well, for temps to really raise underground you're gonna need access to a mile-deep mine shaft or something I suppose...

Anywhoo, behold my first bonchi in flower. This is interesting because it only gets about 15 watts of LED light on a bookshelf. 
The flowers a chockfulla pollen. I'm in hopes of getting some pods out of this in a few months. 

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My bonchis, and the king..

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That bonchi is doing very well and looking healthy. 

Nutes : Bio-GRO BLOOM and Bio-GROW FISHMIX.

The bonchis are thirstier than I thought, they dry out fairly quick so I give them a soak every couple of days.

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And yes folks, we actually have a few baby pods beginning to form ! YAY ! 
This plant gets maybe 20 watts of artificial light only. (Homemade LED). 
Now this would indicate you really don't need to burn up hundreds and hundreds of watts in power to get fruit.
At least not from a bonchi.

Wait and see what happens.  Here is one of the baby pods. 

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Small update : 

This bonchi is doing pretty good. Pods everywhere. 

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Same bonchi, different light. You can see the pods a bit better. 
Yes, we're getting healthy pods under just 20 watts of LED light, people. IT CAN BE DONE.
And I would say this is pretty remarkable. 

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A tray with 8 Peruvian WHITE BULLETS, doing fairly well. 

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Peppadews and other, assorted seedlings under regular neon tubes. It works. 

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My main growspace. It's only one square meter (about 3 ft square).  The LED lights are all DIY and cost me chump change to make. So how the F is this "not working" ? 
Okay. some of the plants look a little haggard. They sustained aphid damage and also damage from the NEEM OIL I used trying to eradicate the problem. Not happy with the Neem Oil. it seems to suffocate the plants, so this week I'm ordering 30 LADYBUG LARVAE online, that should take care of any surviving aphids with the quickness. The plants should bounce back for sure. 
Ladybug larvae are RAVENOUS and their favorite food is aphids. 

I say : Win-Win. 

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Some of my plants under just 90 watts of DIY LED 

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Another shot. Some semi-severe aphid damage on the bigger plants (that are forming buds btw) but I purchased 30 ladybug larvae that should take care of that pronto. 

The bonchis are looking DISMAL and are infested with these green little shits. Hope they bounce back. 

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On the aphids, I use lady bugs and predictor mites under netting and in mini green houses.  But if I released them in the grow room, my wife would kill me.  I use a hot pepper spray instead.  Seems fitting but spraying hot pepper juice around an enclosed area, not so fun.
 
The ladybug larvae are doing a great job and are eradicating the aphids hardcore.  They are interesting to observe. 

ajdrew : after the larvae molt again and become "pupa" they will morph into their winged ladybug form and then they can just fly away. 

Here's some updated pics from the grow area with ONLY 90 WATTS of DIY LED. 

So much for this setup "not working" , like some cynics claimed.  
I mean really. Can somebody tell me how the f is this "not working" ? 
Am I missing something ? Because it sure looks like this setup IS working to me. Just saying. 

These plants get ZERO natural night. Nada. 


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That's just 90 watts folks. Nearly all these plants superhots (there's a couple of small Peppadews in the crate)

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An overwintered Reaper, an overwintered White bullet left, growing new leaves, and two young Moruga Scorpion chocolates under approx 46 watts of DIY LED light. Next week I'll double the dose. See what happens. These plants do get a bit of natural light through the small window but it's bee mostly overcast and cloudy. 

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It's still way too cold here in Amsterdam to take the plants outdoors.

I'm totally running out of room. 

Have a good weekend, y' all. 











 
 
Those are some beautiful plants and it seems that LEDs are working just fine. Good job on the setup and I wish you good luck with the grow and successful aphid termination... gonna follow your glog further for sure
 
Repotted about ten plants. They can now go in the windowsill. It's still way too early for them to go outside.
Not very sunny at all but I guess they will survive in natural light with the days getting longer again.

Also my new DIY LED panel is finished. I call it the i-Panel because it was made from a piece of metal from Mac computer casing. 
Pretty thick metal, you can't bend it. The heatsinks don't even get lukewarm. Pics soon. 

Funny conversation today with someone who boasted "I can eat anything ! The hotter the better ! I can eat jalapenos raw, and thai peppers". 

Sounds a candidate for my first Reaper of the season. 

 
 
A ladybug larva has morphed into a real ladybug. This makes me happy. No aphid is safe for these predators.
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Testing one bank of LEDS on my latest creation : the "i-Panel", that I made from a slab of metal cannibalized from an old Mac computer. 
And yeah, that's my old, beat up Marshall amplifier gathering dust. It's been on about 30 European tours, of over a month each.

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Yay !!! The i-Panel works. This light has much more red, 660 nm to be precise, and 730 infra-red, wavelengths that promote flowering and fruiting in plants.

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Heatsinks atop the i-Panel. These are pretty big, and in retrospect hardly necessairy, as the metal plate is fairly thick, and only gets lukewarm anyways. But better safe than sorry.

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The 1w LEDs on my i-Panel are equipped with reflector lenses. The light beam are INSANELY bright and you will see dots before your eyes for 10 mins if you look straight into them. My goal was to create a 'full-spectrum' panel.

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First repotted plants (call me Harry Re-potter) in the window sill. Taking up way too much space but it's still too early/cold for them to go outside and they gotta go somewhere, dammit.

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That's all, folks.  Happy growing ! 







 
 
Thanks. 

Yes, very disappointing. These damn aphids are EVERYWHERE. Clusters on clusters on clusters. LAYERS of them. 
I just ordered more ladybug larvae yet to help combat the infestation, but it looks like some of the indoor plants are already on their way out  :(

The balcony plants got a SEVERE beating. Crazy storms here and cold nights around freezing point. 

Ima check the greenhouse later this weekend. Hope they'll survive. 
 
A little update. 

Hooray ! First pod of the season, a Moruga Choc. 
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Jay's peach ghost scorpion with HUNDREDS of tiny buds beginning to develop 

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Some unusually large leaves on this 7-pot Primo x Butch T Scorpion F3 hybrid. 

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A few weeks after introducing ladybug larvae, the aphid infestation was not only gone, the larvae also morphed into fully grown beetles. 
Here's one of my poka dotted buddies on a SEARCH AND DESTROY mission.

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Indoor superhots. 
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