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simonpepper

What do you guys think of the new HP56 Ed Currie? is some seeds?
 

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It kinda looks like the reaper but orange reaper 2.0
I don't really care it's not all all about the hottest pepper with me I am more flavor first then heat I want a balance and enjoyable experience not over powering heat that does not just melt your face and numb your tongue but punches you in the gut etc
 
Seed probably will not be available for some time- all I have either heard, read online, seen in videos are that any one of the peppers that are like this are not yet fully stable- certainly not so enough for all out public release! If this is to be tested for new record status, then any seeds most assuredly will not be available until that is completed. Then there may be products (sauces, etc..) that might come first....so I see this a 'sneak peak', a glimpse into the future (distant or not so distant).
 
And these peppers are supposed to be VERY flavorful, not just pure heat.
 
Watching the video made me feel so sorry for that poor woman, the look on her face.  The ten second delay gave me an idea for the name.  If anyone talks to Mr. Currie, please suggest The Carolina Creeper.  I remember when he introduced the Carolina Reaper and said it is good for settling old scores.  The 10 second delay would make this thing the perfect practical joke.
 
smileyguy697 said:
I don't know if I can believe this or not..
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Why not?  I am reminded of something a Butch T fan said after Carolina Reaper took the Guinness title.  I -think- it was Neil Smith who said he thinks with the right growing season he can get the title back for the Butch T.  I've also read that on the low side, the Carolina Reaper can be no hotter than some Ghost Peppers.  So I am thinking growing conditions alone might be able to topple the record set by the Carolina Reaper.  Have to figure Mr. Currie gets better at growing every year he does it.

Then there is the volume of crosses going on at Puckerbutt.  Have seen videos where it seems they are almost randomly combining various dna and testing.  With so much crossing, I gotta figure some are going to wind up extra special over the top hot.
 
 
Watching the video made me feel so sorry for that poor woman, the look on her face.  The ten second delay gave me an idea for the name.  If anyone talks to Mr. Currie, please suggest The Carolina Creeper.  I remember when he introduced the Carolina Reaper and said it is good for settling old scores.  The 10 second delay would make this thing the perfect practical joke.


Love the name! Carolina Creeper! Suggest it to Ed. :)
 
ajdrew said:
 
Why not?  I am reminded of something a Butch T fan said after Carolina Reaper took the Guinness title.  I -think- it was Neil Smith who said he thinks with the right growing season he can get the title back for the Butch T.  I've also read that on the low side, the Carolina Reaper can be no hotter than some Ghost Peppers.  So I am thinking growing conditions alone might be able to topple the record set by the Carolina Reaper.  Have to figure Mr. Currie gets better at growing every year he does it.

Then there is the volume of crosses going on at Puckerbutt.  Have seen videos where it seems they are almost randomly combining various dna and testing.  With so much crossing, I gotta figure some are going to wind up extra special over the top hot.
 
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where are these videos?
But Neil Smith is the inventor of the Butch T?
 
simonpepper said:
 
where are these videos?
But Neil Smith is the inventor of the Butch T?
 
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The videos are in links people provided.  Just scroll up n click on things.  One of the first had this poor woman eat one, wait about ten seconds and then look like she wanted to die.  I didnt want to laugh.  I felt so sorry for her.  But I could not stop myself.

Nope, from what I understand Neil Smith did not invent the Butch T.  This story is why i think Neil Smith is so very impressive.  Butch Taylor was trying to refine a pepper, sending seeds to people on forums and here and there, asking folk to give opinion of each batch, let him know if he had something special going there.  Folk at the Hippie Seed Company got some of the seeds, grew those seeds, ate the peppers and recognized it as something special.  I dont know if it was Mr. Smith or someone else there, but they had the thing tested and I think submitted to Guinness under the name Trinidad Butch T Scorpion to honor Mr. Butch Taylor.

Not sure if you have noticed, but there are lots of accusations that seedmen take existing strains and rename them to create an illusion of exclusivity.  It is not just a pepper thing, it is all so called heirloom seed and in particular tomato.  Hippie Seed Company and Neil Smith could have just as easily named the thing the Trinidad Neil S Scorpion.  Instead, they did the stand up thing and gave credit to Butch Taylor.  Bravo Hippie Seed Company!

BTW: If I got the story wrong, someone is going to absolutely destroy one of my folk heroes.
 
 
There is much more to the Scorpion story than noted here. :)  it would take a while to write it.  Butch T grew it in quantity, but was not the original source by any means.  it was being grown for many years before he got it right in the U.S.
 
ajdrew said:
The videos are in links people provided.  Just scroll up n click on things.  One of the first had this poor woman eat one, wait about ten seconds and then look like she wanted to die.  I didnt want to laugh.  I felt so sorry for her.  But I could not stop myself.

Nope, from what I understand Neil Smith did not invent the Butch T.  This story is why i think Neil Smith is so very impressive.  Butch Taylor was trying to refine a pepper, sending seeds to people on forums and here and there, asking folk to give opinion of each batch, let him know if he had something special going there.  Folk at the Hippie Seed Company got some of the seeds, grew those seeds, ate the peppers and recognized it as something special.  I dont know if it was Mr. Smith or someone else there, but they had the thing tested and I think submitted to Guinness under the name Trinidad Butch T Scorpion to honor Mr. Butch Taylor.

Not sure if you have noticed, but there are lots of accusations that seedmen take existing strains and rename them to create an illusion of exclusivity.  It is not just a pepper thing, it is all so called heirloom seed and in particular tomato.  Hippie Seed Company and Neil Smith could have just as easily named the thing the Trinidad Neil S Scorpion.  Instead, they did the stand up thing and gave credit to Butch Taylor.  Bravo Hippie Seed Company!

BTW: If I got the story wrong, someone is going to absolutely destroy one of my folk heroes.
 
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cmpman1974 said:
There is much more to the Scorpion story than noted here. :)  it would take a while to write it.  Butch T grew it in quantity, but was not the original source by any means.  it was being grown for many years before he got it right in the U.S.
 
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This could be a fantastic conversation.  As I understand it, the Trinidad Moruga Scorpion was being grown here in the US.  Butch Taylor refined / separated out what would become the Trinidad Butch T Scorpion from a much broader line of dna.  Hippie Seed company then gave the refinement the name. 

If that version is right, I very much see the point of view that Butch Taylor did not originate the line.  But then we wind up questioning things like Jay's Ghost Pepper or Smokin' Ed's Red Sav Habanero.  As I understand it, both are refinements of existing dna which have been given new names to identify the particular strain, like the Trinidad Butch T Scorpion the dna existed previously but had not been separated out of the larger group.

See what I mean?
 
Kraken, yep but sometimes mother nature comes up with her own fun things like color changes from recessive genes.  Would love to have more indoor room to screw with new things, but gotta pay the bills. Got a few I am goofing with, but mainly gotta pay the bills.
 
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