I'm posting this because Almost all Vendors LIE about there products AND charge a TON of $ for mostly crap LED grow lights.
Maybe not crap,but stuff to get your $.Not get your pepper plants to grow.
Pot etc. might need different NM.
But that has nothing to do with Chili's.
Most claim a lot of stuff about their panels but screw you in the long run.
50,000 hours of life-IF their LEDS are run on the right volts and amps, etc.
Advertise long life etc. but overdrive their panels so the LEDs frie just about 2 seconds after they guarantee them.
Too much crap going on that is repeated on the net as fact rather than what is reality.
POT is a $ crop,BIG $.
Also they say LEDS are ONLY X wavelengths.
Pure BS.
Every LED just puts out 50% + of whatever they are rated at and they only test a few out of each batch and rate the whole batch as whatever.
Nobody says MOST if not ALL Leds also put out the wavelengths people are supposed to have (in small amounts) and say they added whatever to make their stuff better than others.
LED grow lights are EASY to make for a lot cheaper,EASILY.
A lot cheaper to make a lot better ones than they sell for a lot of $ for crap LED panels.
I don't understand the Watts thing either.
I have 3 Watt LEDS putting out 35LM.
1watt ones putting out 80lm.
Par etc. usually is a combination of Lumens with whatever to judge a light source.
Why isn't ANY Leds at 50% plant usable light consifered as bad because it;s 1 watt ib a higher lm. than a 3 watt one at lesser lm?
Watts per SQ. ft or?
Watts is a measure of electricity.
IF used as a source for SQ, ft. it's b.s. in general.
Lumens per Sq.Ft. matters,no matter what the light source as far as my plants tell me.
I use 1 watt or less LEDs.
I had started out using 5mm Leds to play with,/leds.
Just to see wavelengths and Lumens.
I then got several 3 watt Leds in about 35lm.
They sucked-too hot.
Not anything my strts liked at all.
I saw 1 watt LEDS put out more Lumens and wavelengths and found out they didn't need cooling.
As I posted before,I wanted as many wavelengths of light as I could that are plant usable.
I had to go to 10mm and stars to do what I wanted.
I still use 5mm as side lighting to get branching very early.
In over 5yrs (probably more easily) I have found out what my PEPPER plants like.
My grow is just that.My grow.
! watt LEDS work for me - mostly 35-80 lumens each.
I can place 50+ in different wave langths on a panel that is about 16 in. X 8in.
Each LED id 1 Leds space away on a 1/8th inch sheet of aluminium.
No fans etc,
A 3 watt LED needs cooling and puts out less Lumens and doesn't put out the variety of wavelengths I want.
10mm LEDS only put out certain wavelengths But in a LOT higher Lumens.
Stars and 10mm are VERY cool.
Between both I get way better starts.
I only grow a few plants with them as 5ftX7-8ft plants.Just to piss the experts off. LOL
I just know what works for me over the last 5+ years minimum.
I do what my plants want me to do.
Yup,other light sources might put out more Lm. per watt or whatever.
I'm into putting out ALL the wavelengths my Peppers need.
Screw the halides.
Too hot and not as efficient as far as plant usable light goes.
Yes if you don't make your own LED grow light Halides are probably better.
BUT they will never be as good as LEDs that are or can be more plant specific per watt or whatever peple want to believe.
As I said,I know what works for me.
Do what works best for you.
As a side note,I see a lot of LED users buying EXPENSIVE panels.
I guess If you have $ to burn,that is cool.
I can't afford them.
Also most end up sucking compaired to other light sorces in general in the long run.
From the info I get from friends using them,
Maybe not crap,but stuff to get your $.Not get your pepper plants to grow.
Pot etc. might need different NM.
But that has nothing to do with Chili's.
Most claim a lot of stuff about their panels but screw you in the long run.
50,000 hours of life-IF their LEDS are run on the right volts and amps, etc.
Advertise long life etc. but overdrive their panels so the LEDs frie just about 2 seconds after they guarantee them.
Too much crap going on that is repeated on the net as fact rather than what is reality.
POT is a $ crop,BIG $.
Also they say LEDS are ONLY X wavelengths.
Pure BS.
Every LED just puts out 50% + of whatever they are rated at and they only test a few out of each batch and rate the whole batch as whatever.
Nobody says MOST if not ALL Leds also put out the wavelengths people are supposed to have (in small amounts) and say they added whatever to make their stuff better than others.
LED grow lights are EASY to make for a lot cheaper,EASILY.
A lot cheaper to make a lot better ones than they sell for a lot of $ for crap LED panels.
I don't understand the Watts thing either.
I have 3 Watt LEDS putting out 35LM.
1watt ones putting out 80lm.
Par etc. usually is a combination of Lumens with whatever to judge a light source.
Why isn't ANY Leds at 50% plant usable light consifered as bad because it;s 1 watt ib a higher lm. than a 3 watt one at lesser lm?
Watts per SQ. ft or?
Watts is a measure of electricity.
IF used as a source for SQ, ft. it's b.s. in general.
Lumens per Sq.Ft. matters,no matter what the light source as far as my plants tell me.
I use 1 watt or less LEDs.
I had started out using 5mm Leds to play with,/leds.
Just to see wavelengths and Lumens.
I then got several 3 watt Leds in about 35lm.
They sucked-too hot.
Not anything my strts liked at all.
I saw 1 watt LEDS put out more Lumens and wavelengths and found out they didn't need cooling.
As I posted before,I wanted as many wavelengths of light as I could that are plant usable.
I had to go to 10mm and stars to do what I wanted.
I still use 5mm as side lighting to get branching very early.
In over 5yrs (probably more easily) I have found out what my PEPPER plants like.
My grow is just that.My grow.
! watt LEDS work for me - mostly 35-80 lumens each.
I can place 50+ in different wave langths on a panel that is about 16 in. X 8in.
Each LED id 1 Leds space away on a 1/8th inch sheet of aluminium.
No fans etc,
A 3 watt LED needs cooling and puts out less Lumens and doesn't put out the variety of wavelengths I want.
10mm LEDS only put out certain wavelengths But in a LOT higher Lumens.
Stars and 10mm are VERY cool.
Between both I get way better starts.
I only grow a few plants with them as 5ftX7-8ft plants.Just to piss the experts off. LOL
I just know what works for me over the last 5+ years minimum.
I do what my plants want me to do.
Yup,other light sources might put out more Lm. per watt or whatever.
I'm into putting out ALL the wavelengths my Peppers need.
Screw the halides.
Too hot and not as efficient as far as plant usable light goes.
Yes if you don't make your own LED grow light Halides are probably better.
BUT they will never be as good as LEDs that are or can be more plant specific per watt or whatever peple want to believe.
As I said,I know what works for me.
Do what works best for you.
As a side note,I see a lot of LED users buying EXPENSIVE panels.
I guess If you have $ to burn,that is cool.
I can't afford them.
Also most end up sucking compaired to other light sorces in general in the long run.
From the info I get from friends using them,
