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chinense peach bhut SS leaf weridness


This Peach BJ SS has always been smaller than her brothers now she has these funky leaves but normals underneath the others have been treated the same but or fine & as far as I know so is she
These leaves make me think of those gnarly pods in Judy's pic on her site
 
ThePepperTrent said:
I have no idea, I too have seen this on my plants before but never asked what it is. I am curious as well. You think it could be some sort of mutation?
It might be this plant has always been smaller than the others now it is putting out these funky leaves .
I notice the bottom ones are fine .
I have done nothing different form the others light watering etc all the same other than the funkiness it seems fine
Nuclieye said:
Possibly too intense of light?  Have seen it before and currently here but it's never a real problem.
I don't have grow lights & the others are fine other than the funkiness & it being smaller than her brothers it seems fine I do everything else the same just strange maybe this just happens sometime or maybe its a mutation
 
Is that brown powder look on the leaves the left over from a nutes water or actually in the leaves themselves.. If your giving them nutes already its probably a overdose..
 
KrakenPeppers said:
Is that brown powder look on the leaves the left over from a nutes water or actually in the leaves themselves.. If your giving them nutes already its probably a overdose..
I am not yet but may be some ocean forrest in there can't remember if there is but that might be it
Or it might of not took the change to plant room 2 as well as the others
 
Soil looks awful dark, did you just water them?
I have grown bhuts in the past that have exhibited a significantly different shape of leaf then most other pepper plants, these however are radically different from those.
I am leaning toward environmental causes.
 
CAPCOM said:
Soil looks awful dark, did you just water them?
I have grown bhuts in the past that have exhibited a significantly different shape of leaf then most other pepper plants, these however are radically different from those.
I am leaning toward environmental causes.
Yes i just watered before I took the pic environmental may be it because leaves were like the other four before moved to plant room 2 it being smaller than her brothers might have caused more stress for her than them.
Thanks Capcom think you nailed it .
 
As a general rule, peach bhuts are just horrible to grow until they get big.. I hated nurturing my undersized slow growing problematic peach plants until they finally got to a reasonable size.. If they weren't yellowing they were drooping, if they weren't drooping they were loosing leaves if they weren't loosing leaves they were gangly... Blerggh.. not like their other coloured cousins that's for sure.
 
Could just be another peach issue coming through lol
 
I'll echo what KP said. Both of my peach strains, Jays scorpion and the bhuts are always a struggle to have normal looking plants. I see other people on here who have plants that look like "normal" plants. Mine are usually paler or yellower, dropping lower leaves and just in general looking odd. Mind you they get the same soil, light and water as all my other "normal" looking plants. I barely fertilize so excess nutes ate not an issue with mine. Maybe not enough but not too much. I have found they really seem to grow the roots and don't tolerate being root bound. I usually plant up once my plants have a set or two of real leaves. Most of my plants are developing good roots at that point and not close to being congested down at the bottom of the cell. Now I start checking the peach plants earlier because even though they may not be big up top their roots are going crazy. Maybe they are real sensitive to their roots. But once in the ground they seem to get happy and grow fine. Long windedly that being said I've not had any with leaves looking like yours. With the focus issue it's hard for me to see the blotchy brown/light areas on the bigger leaves. But the twisty crinkley leaves  I would think possibly it's a genetics thing. You said she has always been smaller (kinda like a runt).  I do have some plants (of any variety) that have similar screwy looking leaves when they are first getting their adult leaves but they seem to grow out of it too. These are quite often the slower germinating, slower growing plants out of a batch of seeds. I use Ocean Forrest too with good results so you should be fine there.
 
WichitaChief said:
I'll echo what KP said. Both of my peach strains, Jays scorpion and the bhuts are always a struggle to have normal looking plants. I see other people on here who have plants that look like "normal" plants. Mine are usually paler or yellower, dropping lower leaves and just in general looking odd. Mind you they get the same soil, light and water as all my other "normal" looking plants. I barely fertilize so excess nutes ate not an issue with mine. Maybe not enough but not too much. I have found they really seem to grow the roots and don't tolerate being root bound. I usually plant up once my plants have a set or two of real leaves. Most of my plants are developing good roots at that point and not close to being congested down at the bottom of the cell. Now I start checking the peach plants earlier because even though they may not be big up top their roots are going crazy. Maybe they are real sensitive to their roots. But once in the ground they seem to get happy and grow fine. Long windedly that being said I've not had any with leaves looking like yours. With the focus issue it's hard for me to see the blotchy brown/light areas on the bigger leaves. But the twisty crinkley leaves  I would think possibly it's a genetics thing. You said she has always been smaller (kinda like a runt).  I do have some plants (of any variety) that have similar screwy looking leaves when they are first getting their adult leaves but they seem to grow out of it too. These are quite often the slower germinating, slower growing plants out of a batch of seeds. I use Ocean Forrest too with good results so you should be fine there.
Thanks Don I am thinking she will grow out of it yes she is a runt.
Those funky leaves make me think of the pods of this strain maybe its a sign of future gnarly pods they do seem kinda oily lol
 
Here are 2 jays peach scorpions that I am growing this year. They are from two different seed sources.
 

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My experience has been that when leaves start to look like that, something is slowly restricting their hydration.  In addition to what other folk suggested, please take a magnifying glass to the underside of the messed up leaves.  Tiny little mites love to suck the sap out of a leaf.  Even if you can't see them, flush the underside with water from a misting bottle and keep the sick plant apart from the health plants. Cant hurt.

I do not know why, but mites seem like a much bigger problem indoors than out.  Thinking maybe outdoors they have lots of other things that taste better.
 
Plantguy76 said:

This Peach BJ SS has always been smaller than her brothers now she has these funky leaves but normals underneath the others have been treated the same but or fine & as far as I know so is she
These leaves make me think of those gnarly pods in Judy's pic on her site
spray with some triple x neem  , little in the soil , get it some really good grow light or some sun it'll grow , i had that happen with one of my peach s.s. Bhuts . had to top it take all the leaves off but a couple on the bottom , and now it its bushing out great . but now its getting sun in the green house . good luck !
 
moruga welder said:
spray with some triple x neem  , little in the soil , get it some really good grow light or some sun it'll grow , i had that happen with one of my peach s.s. Bhuts . had to top it take all the leaves off but a couple on the bottom , and now it its bushing out great . but now its getting sun in the green house . good luck !
Thanks Frank I need all the good vibes I can get !
I was thinking of removing those leaves as the bottom ones are fine it needs something to make it perk up that just might do it .
Thanks everyone for all the good advice
 
Plantguy76 said:
Thanks Frank I need all the good vibes I can get !
I was thinking of removing those leaves as the bottom ones are fine it needs something to make it perk up that just might do it .
Thanks everyone for all the good advice
 
n.p. my friend , it'll snap out of it . don't over water it . keep fresh flow of air on it .      :onfire:
 
If going with neem and you get the type that you mix with water, instead of mixing with pure water give hot pepper tea a try.  Had mites in my grow room, used that mixture and they migrated into other parts of the house where i used harsher techniques.  No nuking in the grow room, but anywhere else in the house is my wife's domain and she has no problem with using WMDs.
 
Before hitting plant with any bug killer I'd make sure it had bugs first. Too often we throw stuff at plants when they don't really need it. Although neem is fairy mild I just don't like possibly adding another stress to a plant if it doesn't need it. IF it has mites or aphids THEN treat it. I'm not a big fan of treating a non existent problem.
 
WichitaChief said:
Before hitting plant with any bug killer I'd make sure it had bugs first. Too often we throw stuff at plants when they don't really need it. Although neem is fairy mild I just don't like possibly adding another stress to a plant if it doesn't need it. IF it has mites or aphids THEN treat it. I'm not a big fan of treating a non existent problem.
I think Capcom & Moruga Welder has it right first its environmental because she was fine before being moved into plant room 2 Frank (Moruga Welder ) had a similar thing happen to one of his peach bhut SS So I took his advice & topped it.
It was in another location in plant room 2 & probably did not get enough light.
She behind her four big brothers but I now know she will take off in time & be bushier than the others .
I looked at the leaves before I topped it they was coming out of it no bugs.
 
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