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#1 Mabuse

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 10:47 AM

Hi!

Im growing four varieties of peppers, but i only know what one of these is (bishops crown).

I took seeds from these dried peppers, they are supposed to be italian "pepperoncinos" which, as far as i know, means "little chili peppers" in italian, or something similar:

http://i.imgur.com/sxe2wZz.jpg

and this kinds of plants grew:

http://i.imgur.com/z9y5AO7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TKCzDfz.jpg

 

This was the slowest variety to grow and develop. The cotiledons where quite small, thin, and whith "sloppy" edges.

 

Then i found this bag of dried peppers forgotten in a drawer, and sowed lots of seeds:

http://i.imgur.com/jWH2tAY.jpg

 

Two varieties came out of these. One standed out from the begining for having a thick and long stem, and big cots. I recently realized they looked similar

to bell peppers, and im afraid they may be, (the loose cluster of seeds in the back looks like it could be from a bell, though today I tasted a little bit of placenta from it and i think i detected some heat). Here are some pictures:

http://i.imgur.com/qLvCrEZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mcRh8JZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jaj7mFV.jpg

 

The other variety has thinner stems, but it branched out a lot since the beginning (it grew lots of "suckers"). It is the fastest of all, and the only one for which i have pods to show:

http://i.imgur.com/gmsuT5J.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/smNxnFC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AQYNfo1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qHBTowx.jpg

 

Any ideas as to what these varieties may be?



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Posted 17 April 2015 - 06:58 AM

Whatever they are there fresh good looking plants.. Could do with a topping maybe lol


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Posted 17 April 2015 - 02:16 PM

Whatever they are there fresh good looking plants.. Could do with a topping maybe lol

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 09:50 AM

Whatever they are there fresh good looking plants.. Could do with a topping maybe lol

 

Yeah, the thing is winter is coming here, i started really late, and im afraid if i top the plants i won't be having any fruits, there's no time! I've only topped some of my smaller plants (the ones that are developing slower because they recive less light), because they arent going to produce before winter anyway and i'm running out of space, ha.



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 07:56 PM

Looks like an Annuum to me.

What I don't know.

But I think you are OK with ripening.

Most Annuums ripen pretty fast.

Compaired to Pubescens , Chinense and especially Baccatums.

 

Can't think of a small Pepperoncini right now - Italian pepper?

 

I assume low light is causing it to be long and lanky.

At first it looked Baccatum,but white buds and the Calyx say no way. 

(lots of Bac. start out long and lanky.)

Calyx is wrong though as are the buds.

 

Looks a lot like several bird peppers I've grown.

Kinda big pods for some of the birds though.

 

A clue as to where the pods were from might help/place of origin.

At least we could check out Italian or pods from wherever.

Portugal is especially bad about pepper names.

They do a lot of trading etc. with different countries over the centuries and translated names to Potagese and things get mixed up over the years.

 

(like the Korean stuff I grow now-translates to Delicious pepper or whatever.They get a new name by whoever just because several other pepper names,translated were the same,but are different varieties).

 

Packed in wherever doesn't mean much at times,but A LOT of stuff sold in Potugal,Spain,Itally etc. are from several places originally due to past and present trade routes.

lots of different peppers are now Land Race over the years in places they were just exported to.

Became Land Race varieties etc.

 

Also,I see several varieties substituted when an importer can't get a supply from wherever FOR whatever.

Try growing out Pizza Parlor Crushed Red chili flake seeds.

You'll get several different plants.

Generic names are used for a lot of different chilis as far as dry pods and flakes goes.

 

Maybe post the company that sold the dry pods etc. if you still have the package label to see where the supplier gets the pods from.

 

I've found what stuff was over the years by finding out the main source of an importers dry pods.

It might be from anywhere Re Named for the market BUT after some searching it was from wherever else and is called something else in the place it was grown in.

An example is Zimbabwe Bird peppers. Tons of names but the source is the same,just called whatever by vendors that sell it wherever...

 

Maybe google the Vendor then see their souces.

Go from there.

You might or might not have a variety that is only that batch of peppers the co. sold.

Who knows.

 

Nope,I'm not addicted to Chiles.

 

Can't tell by what I sometimes go through to check out a few seeds that grew from commercial pods labeled as the same thing but grew different chili"s.


Edited by smokemaster, 21 April 2015 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 08:44 PM

Looks like an Annuum to me.

What I don't know.

But I think you are OK with ripening.

Most Annuums ripen pretty fast.

Compaired to Pubescens , Chinense and especially Baccatums.

 

Can't think of a small Pepperoncini right now - Italian pepper?

 

I assume low light is causing it to be long and lanky.

At first it looked Baccatum,but white buds and the Calyx say no way. 

(lots of Bac. start out long and lanky.)

Calyx is wrong though as are the buds.

 

Looks a lot like several bird peppers I've grown.

Kinda big pods for some of the birds though.

 

A clue as to where the pods were from might help/place of origin.

At least we could check out Italian or pods from wherever.

Portugal is especially bad about pepper names.

They do a lot of trading etc. with different countries over the centuries and translated names to Potagese and things get mixed up over the years.

 

(like the Korean stuff I grow now-translates to Delicious pepper or whatever.They get a new name by whoever just because several other pepper names,translated were the same,but are different varieties).

 

Packed in wherever doesn't mean much at times,but A LOT of stuff sold in Potugal,Spain,Itally etc. are from several places originally due to past and present trade routes.

lots of different peppers are now Land Race over the years in places they were just exported to.

Became Land Race varieties etc.

 

Also,I see several varieties substituted when an importer can't get a supply from wherever FOR whatever.

Try growing out Pizza Parlor Crushed Red chili flake seeds.

You'll get several different plants.

Generic names are used for a lot of different chilis as far as dry pods and flakes goes.

 

Maybe post the company that sold the dry pods etc. if you still have the package label to see where the supplier gets the pods from.

 

I've found what stuff was over the years by finding out the main source of an importers dry pods.

It might be from anywhere Re Named for the market BUT after some searching it was from wherever else and is called something else in the place it was grown in.

An example is Zimbabwe Bird peppers. Tons of names but the source is the same,just called whatever by vendors that sell it wherever...

 

Maybe google the Vendor then see their souces.

Go from there.

You might or might not have a variety that is only that batch of peppers the co. sold.

Who knows.

 

Nope,I'm not addicted to Chiles.

 

Can't tell by what I sometimes go through to check out a few seeds that grew from commercial pods labeled as the same thing but grew different chili"s.

 

I have seeds for a Italian Frutescen that's just labeled Pepperoncini. No idea what they are?



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Posted 21 April 2015 - 09:09 PM

I'd guess you have a similar pepper or the same thing.

 

Wanna trade,I LOVE landrace stuff!

 

I think I have a couple varieties you might like,just maybe...

Depends on what you're into. Both the poster and Hog leg.

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 07:59 AM

Thank you very much for your detailed answer smokemaster.

I probably didn't make myself clear in my first post (english is not my first language). There's three different varieties im showing, the flowers and pods i showed aren't from the "pepperoncini". Pepperoncinos flowers havent opened yet.

I don't have much information about them, they were brought from italy a few years ago. I did find a package o crushed pepperoncino and i remembered i also took seeds from it and the same kind of plants grew. It says "Amore amalfi di lucibelle" and "peperoncini picanti".



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Posted 24 April 2015 - 08:12 PM

Second ones look like de arbols to me. And yes... top that pepperoncini! It's normally a small, bushy plant.


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