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seeds experience germing fatali/bhut?

cubbieblue82

cubbieblue82

having great luck so far! ALMOST every type i set has sprung up at least 2/3. 
 
EXCEPT for all three fatali, white bhut, purple bhut. do these typically take a lot longer? everything is in seed starting mix in starter trays - under domes on a heat pad. 
 
secondary question - i am seeing TONS of sprouts come up with helmet heads. i've only lost one in surgery so far, so its not a HUGE deal, but im wondering if soaking them (h2o2?) before planting would help?
 
 How deep are you planting the seeds ? I think one inch is perfect but not always a defying factor for helmet heads .Sometimes there is nothing you can do to stop it . 
 
Bhut's and any chinense should take on average 5 to 10 days . If the seeds are old it may take longer . Or you may just have a bad batch  of seeds . 
 
What temp is your soil ? 
 
i dont have a thermometer on it anywhere, but have used the exact same dome/heat pad setup three times now and had nearly flawless results other than these varieties. :/
 
For me, the fatalis and bhuts definitely took longer than most of my varieties (the only ones that took longer on average were the jigsaws and reapers).
 
As romy6 suggested the best way to combat them is to sow them deep enough so as to hold the seed down as the plant finds its way out. I germinated outside soil, so I sowed them as they started to sprout. This allowed me to position them so the seed was snug, but not the hook.
 
I found a thread awhile back that helped me deal with the helmets:
 
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/19844-a-photo-guide-to-how-i-removed-stuck-seed-caps/
 
I improved on the method by using a straw to have better control over the droplets. Basically use a cheap plastic straw. dip the end in lukewarm water and cap the other end with your finger. This will hold the drop and allow you to slip it over the seed and a bit of the plant. Do this a few times throughout the day to soften it and hopefully aid you in slipping it off. Sometimes I have to break out a two pairs of precision tweezers to tear the helmet apart.
 
Best of luck!
 
Sometimes I try fancy methods but more often than not I plant directly into soil and don't let them dry out without swamping them.  Fatalii is one of my favorite strains and I have a third year plant in my room right now.  Bhuts seem to be trickier to start from seed, I think the temperature differences during the rainy season in India have had an influence on those. Best thing to really do is to read the forums and see what different people have done for seed starting.  Pepper plants can be difficult to grow and the real reward is being to keep some of them for years of their lives.  Seedlings are pretty demanding but once you've gotten one through its first overwinter they tend to be really hardy.  Fataliis will overwinter very nicely.
 
My "fataliis" germianted fast. Bhut "Copenhagen" also.
 
But "Bhuts" seeds seem to me very sensitive. I hade some red "bhuts" that never germinated. (All other 30 varieties germianted).
 
I would wait 3 weeks, and if they doesnt show a sign, place some seeds froma different source (or do it now to be sure that you get some for this season in time.).
 
My Fatali and various Bhuts germinated like the others Chinenses
Only Chocolate Bhut took longer than average
 
  My Fatalii, White Bhut, Purple Bhut and Peach Bhut had their cotys out and basking in the light 5 days from sowing. All my bhuts have come up within 7 days of sowing the seed. And so far I have 12 bhuts and 2 fatalii's this year.
 
cubbieblue82 said:
arghh. still nothing from them. is it to late to sow another round?
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No.  But I'd advise putting any that do sprout into containers that can be overwintered because you'll likely not start getting production until late July/early August.
 
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