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#21 BigB

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:08 PM

I sent out a few boxes recently to people and it literally took me 2 hrs to cut, sort through, label, go to the post office and send out the boxes. I only sent out 3 boxes that morning, and maybe made 10$ a box just like you're figuring. That's 15/hr, excluding the cost to actually produce the  buggers. I whole heartedly agree with ya mike. For it to be profitable, Id even say boxes of things you CAN"T get in the store should go for 25-30$ You deserve at least double. You da man, only reason I'm thriving with all these plants and peppers now between buying plants from you and the seed train which has provided the genetics. 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:17 PM

:evil grin: I like to take a handful extra supers during harvest with me to the grocery store. While doing my shopping I do my best to mix them in with whatever they have that looks even somewhat close. Very hard at times and the produce guy knows me so I have a feeling he has thwarted my fun a few times, but at least I know he will buy them to enjoy them :rofl:

 

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:52 PM

:evil grin: I like to take a handful extra supers during harvest with me to the grocery store. While doing my shopping I do my best to mix them in with whatever they have that looks even somewhat close. Very hard at times and the produce guy knows me so I have a feeling he has thwarted my fun a few times, but at least I know he will buy them to enjoy them :rofl:

 

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:59 PM

:evil grin: I like to take a handful extra supers during harvest with me to the grocery store. While doing my shopping I do my best to mix them in with whatever they have that looks even somewhat close. Very hard at times and the produce guy knows me so I have a feeling he has thwarted my fun a few times, but at least I know he will buy them to enjoy them :rofl:

 

 

LOL that's definitely going to ruin....or make someone's day/meal/tomorrow's sphincter? 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:13 PM

I don't see the problem. I know how much time and money I spend in my own garden.

If I like what is being sold, I buy it. I like to try different pod's, if I like it, I'll save the seeds. Anyone I've purchased pod's from can tell you, I even ask before I save seed's. That's just me and that's worth whatever price I pay. I'm just glad that there are vendor's to buy pod's from. Sometimes, one's season doesn't end well. We're fortunate to have such good vendor's. Not so long ago, that wasn't the case.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:13 PM

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:38 PM

I have received pods from Mike many times before and they have always been superb quality that I would gladly pay much more for, especially considering the fact you can get all of one type or up to five different types. His communication has always been very fast, and lets not forget the freebees he tosses in from seeds to powders. I look at 18 dollars as cheap and a hell of a bargain. What he sells you cant just go to the store a buy so it would have to be ordered so I already expect a shipping charge and that 18 already includes that. So If i am paying 11 dollars for one sfrb of peppers, hell i couldn't go to walmart and buy that much in regular low quality orange habaneros for that cost. So worth every penny as a consumer!!


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:54 PM

Some people are so damn cheep they wouldn't know a great deal if hit em. They are happy with mass produced jalapeño and bell pepper they get at Walmart and will complain about anything. Some people have watched so much American Pickers that their willing to beat down a honest deal just cause they can. I've always been money spent on good food is well spent.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 10:24 PM

I paid $6.50 for a large bunch of organic asparagus at the FM.

I paid $3.99/lb for a large bunch of asparagus at the store.

 

 

I didn't pay attention to the actual weights, but they were pretty much the same size, prolly 1.5 pounds each.

 

 

Doing The Math...

 

the organic bunch might help the farmer cover costs, and what profit there is is supporting a local family of 5.  Picked that morning and bought by noon, eaten by 6pm.

 

The store asparagus came from (who knows where) harvested (who knows when) and profits are going to-

the store

the produce delivery company

the packing house

the farm

---the pickers---

 

 

 

If you value your product, others will also.  Some will appreciate what goes into making or growing whatever-it-is.  Some will never appreciate the effort and will only go for the cheapest or best deal.  Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to say "No, I can't cut my prices.  I'm in business to make money just like the gas station, the grocery store and Amazon." 

 

Would they even consider asking the corner market to reduce the price of that gallon of milk?  No? Why not?  Because they would get laughed out of the store.  So why would they think it's OK to beat up some other business person on the price of goods? 

 

If customers are bitching about the price, raise the price and see who bites.  Seriously!  At least then you know those who are purchasing are appreciative of your efforts and when you throw in the extras, that will also be appreciated.  Or you can be "out of stock" for those special customers....

 

 

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:12 AM

I don't want a box of lovingly picked, thoughtful smurf script described tag on stem peppers for $18.

I'd rather pay 29.99-34.99 + shipping for a box of rotten peppers from someone who won't return my emails.

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Nah. Just kiddin. Fcku that though. Some people are just cheap bastards and want something for nothing.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:19 AM

Great discussion Mike. It is indeed a labor of love as Chris says. I don't sell any pepper products but it is not hard to imagine for large retail producers and wholesale suppliers it can be very frustrating. SFRB @ $18 is good for me but I probably wouldn't quibble with $20-25, if early in the season and pods are what I want and/or premium as mentioned.

Aren't peppers fascinating?


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 12:26 AM

I just ordered 2 boxes from Mike. I like the idea of trying out different peppers to see which ones I will end up liking. I even went so far as to describe a few kinds I liked and a few that I didn't care for and then gave him the liberty to "surprise me" with some. It's a service that I GREATLY appreciate and I can say that I was truly happy with the whole process!

Yes I have 42 plants growing presently, but I live in Michigan and pods aren't here yet...in comes a vendor like Mike to fill the gap and expose me to new varieties. I thought $30 for 2 boxes was a super deal ;)

Unfortunately there will always be the cheapskates and to them I say: get your fix somewhere else...if you can find them :P

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 08:56 AM

Where Im from a man is his word
Your world is how you direct it with in your means
Pay to play is the bottom line,stand your worth
It will come around . .  . . .

Pay to play isn't the bottom line with everyone. If a man is his word, literally and figuratively, and one doesn't like that word-you could have all the moneybin the world and still not get shit .

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:59 AM

While we are doing really well at farmers markets and events, with our first online order the other day; my fiance and I would have to sell A LOT of product to be able to leave our other full time jobs. We work 80+ hours a week because we love making our sauces, with the thought of one day replacing our jobs with it full time. But the reality as the OP stated is that making sauce is expensive. Insurance, $500+. Taxes, $400-600+. Paying Event fees, shipping costs, replacements, food and equipment for your events. Hoping that you sell enough to cover just the cost to be there.

 

And those who are growing their own peppers, making and selling their own hot sauce. That's even more time, and costs involved. One thing I've found is that I am constantly looking for better deals, everywhere! I don't think looking for better prices on peppers, ingredients, etc. will ever stop either.

 

At the end of the day, you gotta do it because you love it. The rest hopefully will fall into place. 


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 10:29 AM

Thanknyou Furious fornyour perspective.

I do believe there is a difference between looking for a better deal and complaining that "so and so has if for better price - you should too."

As a business man you always want the best product for the best price. And you can go to a vendor and say " I need 15 LBS of Morugas. What's the best you can do me for?" Which is a world of difference between " Well this vendor has them for 11 a box you should match them." Whuch , believe me ,does happen.


Another direction.

Also as everyone else already said- this is specialty product.

When I was in the game and I'd go to my dealer , if I said " Yo dawg- johnny got me for this price. " or " I can get better cheaper down the road". They'd look at me and tell me to get steppin, you can get it better go and do it.

These vendors put their heart, their soul into what they do not only because they love it, but because they believe that someone else out there might, just might, like the fruits of their effort, their laborious love enough to try it themselves.

The chilihead spirit is about sharing the love which is why you see vendors charging anywhere between 10-20 dollars a box. When they know full well they could charge 30$+ for something that'd be really rare to find in a most spots of the world- much less fresh to boot?!?!?!

If you think its just about the money you're wrong. You're dead wrong. Its about doing something you love and sharing it with people who might appreciate it as much as you do.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 10:39 AM

Great to see so many understanding and conscious replies in this thread.  Amazon has made Free Shipping almost mandatory - it's like people expect it.  Sure you can get stuff for cheaper - one can always use the interwebz to find cheaper things.  Quality, service, integrity - those are the kind of people and businesses I want to support.  It's worth paying extra for that type of experience.   :)

 

This a million times over.  I will gladly pay a high quality company more for top notch quality and integrity.  Its part of the reason I support SOME local businesses (and online retailers).  My wife being a small business owner herself, I know the amount of dedication it takes to make something worthwhile.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:25 AM

:evil grin: I like to take a handful extra supers during harvest with me to the grocery store. While doing my shopping I do my best to mix them in with whatever they have that looks even somewhat close. Very hard at times and the produce guy knows me so I have a feeling he has thwarted my fun a few times, but at least I know he will buy them to enjoy them :rofl:

damn, i gotta try that . that's funny right there. to bad you cant see them when the eat it.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:31 AM

damn, i gotta try that . that's funny right there. to bad you cant see them when the eat it.

 

is this the pepper version of being Rick Rolled? ahahah


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 08:46 PM


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 09:09 AM

If you don't turn a profit you can not grow the next year. Bottom line. Hustling 20 dollar boxes is no treat.





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