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HM01 2017 Seedless Glog

     I said I wasn't going to start a glog this year since my season will be cut short (moving this summer), but not growing things just seems weird to me. So here we go.
     I have about ten OW chile plants that I will be keeping in containers (let's see if they survive the move...). They aren't much to look at now, but I'll post pics once they go outside.
     Since I'm not starting seeds for peppers and tomatoes, my grow lights were feeling neglected. I decided to take advantage of this opportunity to start some hybrid poplar clones from and for my family's land up in 'Sconnie.
     When my family first moved there in the late '80s I remember taking a walk with my mom and digging up a poplar sucker to transplant. It turned out that tree was a hybrid (gray poplar) that occurs naturally, although relatively uncommonly, in the midwest. Good soil and hybrid vigor allowed the tree to take off. That was almost 30 years ago and since then the tree has grown to about 80' tall and 2' dbh. It has also sent out suckers of its own - some of which we, again, dug up and transplanted. One of those transplants is now about 30' tall with a 6" dbh. A few weeks ago, I lopped a branch off it to take some cuttings.
     From that branch, I used a hand pruner to cut 2-3 bud softwood shoots. After soaking them in water for a few days, I planted them in homemade organic soil in half gallon containers. A few weeks of growth under my lights pretty much brings us to today.
    
 
 
This is what a populus x canescens cutting looks like just as it's starting to wake up and push leaves.
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Opening up a bit more...
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Leaves emerged and stretching. Notice the fuzziness (leaves, not the pics ;) ). Populus x canescens is a naturally-occuring hybrid between Populus alba (white poplar) and Populus tremuloides (trembling aspen). They have the form of an aspen and the fuzzy leaves of the white poplar, but most importantly they have incredible hybrid vigor. They grow very fast and are much more disease resistant and adaptable than either parent.
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     About ten years ago I started reading about bybrid poplars and discovered commercially produced hybrids being used in phytoremediation as well as timber and pulp production. I ordered some online and started them just like these ^ cuttings.
 
This one is called OP-367 (Populus x canadensis) and is a cross between Populus deltoides (Eastern cottonwood) and Populus nigra (a Europen black poplar) .
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another OP-367
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more OP-367
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     OP-367 was one of the first commercially produced hybrid poplars available. It is a real workhorse, too! I thought gray poplars grew fast until I saw what these could do.
     Next time I'm up north visiting my family, I'll get some pics of the mothers. Until then, I'll keep this glog updated with my most recent clones.
     As always, thanks for stopping by el jardin del dash-o dos! Especially in this off year. :cheers:
 
Guatemalan Insanity Pepper said:
 
Yes, I know, I just quoted myself :lol:
 
 
 
 
 

     :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: lol Any time!
 
 
 
     I was expecting Sven and Ole jokes coming from a future fellow Minnesotan. Looks like I'm going to have to brush up on my freezing to death humor! :rofl:
     I worked for a while in the Twin Cities during college and remember it being noticeably colder than where I grew up in central Wisconsin in winter. Now I'm going to have to adapt to winters just south of Winnipeg, our closest city. I love ice fishing and usually don't mind the cold and all, but man, that northern continental climate can just get ridiculous up there!
 
as a transplant from the west coast...
the shit winter up here is ridiculous  :rofl:
and not being able to leave your peppers out at night until May  :mad:
probably June for you  :lol:
your gonna love it  :rofl:  :rofl:
 
at least the fishin's good  :dance:
 
 
 
 
:cheers:
 
Hybrid_Mode_01 said:
 
     I was expecting Sven and Ole jokes coming from a future fellow Minnesotan. Looks like I'm going to have to brush up on my freezing to death humor! :rofl:
     I worked for a while in the Twin Cities during college and remember it being noticeably colder than where I grew up in central Wisconsin in winter. Now I'm going to have to adapt to winters just south of Winnipeg, our closest city. I love ice fishing and usually don't mind the cold and all, but man, that northern continental climate can just get ridiculous up there!
Ole and his brother Sven were working for the city. One would dig a hole, he would dig, dig, dig, the other would come behind him and fill the hole, fill, fill, fill. These two brothers worked furiously. One digging a hole, the other filling it up again. A man was watching from the sidewalk and couldn't believe how hard these men were working, but couldn't understand what they were doing. Finally he just had to ask them. He said to the hole digger, "I appreciate how hard you work, but what are you doing? You dig a hole and your brother comes behind you and fills it up again!" Ole replied, "Oh yeah, must look kinda funny, but Al, the guy who plants the trees, is sick today."   :rolleyes:
 
Hybrid_Mode_01 said:
 
     I can't wait. :drooling: The fishing where I live now is just garbage.
 
Ole and Sven went fishing one day in a rented boat and were catching fish like crazy. Ole said, "We better mark this spot so we can come here tomorrow and catch more fish. Sven then proceeded to mark the bottom of the boat with a large 'X.' Ole asked him what he was doing and Sven told him: Marking the spot so they could come back and catch more fish. Ole said, "You big dummy, how do you know we're going to get the same boat tomorrow?" 
:rolleyes:
Uff da
 
Sven & Ole jokes were copypasta from prairie home companion public radio
 
Jubnat said:
Hah, sounds just like the Boudreaux and Thibodeaux jokes down here in south Louisiana.
I guess every region has their own.
 
     A friend of mine is from down there. I've heard a bunch of those over the years from her. :cheers:
 
 
 
 
 
Genetikx said:
I enjoyed the tree knowledge. Thanks for that.

What kind of ow's you got?
 
 
     No problem. Later this weekend I'll post some more info about hybrid poplars that I've found.
 
     Let's see... Of the top of my head I have: two Peru bitdumis, a malih-helow, a P. Dreadie SB, a goatsweed, a Bahamian goat, a wild Brazil and two Elysium oxides.
 
qandeel said:
Hey Shonas what happened to those little trees?
 

     The OP-367s grew nicely and I transplanted them to half gallon pots this spring. By late summer, they were all about 1-2' tall and healthy. I transplanted them to a wet meadow area on my family's land and surrounded them with a hardware cloth fence to keep the deer and rabbits away.
     The long term plan is to use those trees as a source of future cuttings. Once they are established (probably spring, 2019), I will cut 4-6' whips from them and plant those directly into other areas. If the cuttings are taken and planted at the right time (just before they break dormancy) they will set roots soon after planting and establish in their new home right away.
     If things work out, I will be able to keep cutting back the new growth from the trees I planted this season every year. Based on previous success rates, I figure I ought to be able to plant and establish at least ten trees each season just from those I planted this season. That's not even counting cuttings I'll take from future plantings.
     The long, long term plan is to use these trees to begin reforesting about five acres of seasonally wet meadowland that was cleared for pasture about 50 -100 years ago. These poplars are just the first step. As they grow, they will improve soil quality, reduce seasonal inundation, shade and eventually outcompete wetland grasses and sedges, and (starting in maybe 5-10 years) provide an environment where more valuable timber and mast trees (oak, cherry, walnut, hickory etc...) can be planted and have a better chance of surviving and growing straight and healthy. Over time, the poplars will be outcompeted by higher value, more shade-tolerant trees.
     Sadly, none of the native gray poplars made it. I'm going to try direct planting a few whip cuttings next spring from some established trees though. We'll see how those do next summer.
     Next time I'm home I'll take some pics of what became of the trees I planted this fall as well as the larger established trees on the property so you can see what the end product is. It really is amazing how fast these trees grow and how quickly a few of them can turn a boring wet field into valuable wildlife habitat.
 
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