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#21 PaulG

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

F1 pod 2014:

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Better idea of size:

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Early September:

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Mid-September:

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 10:09 PM

In 2015, I planted some seed from 2014's yellow F2 pods.  

Out of 6 seeds, 6 sprouted.  ¡Viva! fresh seeds!

 

These are Tristen's Mystery Cross, F3, 2015.  No doubt about purple parentage here!  

You can see a tiny late hooker in the cup on the left.  With that one, 84% showed

the purple trait.  Kinda sorry now I didn't follow up on the green F3 seedling:

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The red Bhut Jolokia that somehow picked up a purple gene.  4/6 showed the trait.  

The only other plant in the grow with the purple expression, and not far away, was

Tristen's cross.  Later:  After watching the BJ Hybrid and the Mystery Cross develop

alongside each other, that the Cross is the other parent in the BJ cross.  See 2016

Grow Log:

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F3, 31 days old:

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End of March - note green foliage:

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Baby pods from the F3:

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Trippa's cross, F3 - pods start out a dark purple:

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Some of Tristen's (Trippa) F3 cross.  My neighbor's plant has thrown yellow pods (I don't know what happened to those seeds):

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F3 pods bottom right:

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That's the highlights from 2015 - will add some of last year's highlights in next day or two.

 

 


Edited by PaulG, 24 March 2017 - 10:11 PM.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 09:17 AM

Interesting Paul Trippa you can see so many genetics of both parentage in both the pods as they go through ripening stage in the different generations , do you both think it will stablize now at this creamy colour or can you see flecks of either yellow or purple reappearing as it gets to f6/7/8 ?

 

And the important issue has it got a good all round flavour of both pods ;) :party: i know Paul said its quite hot for him lol .....

 

Paul you definately got green fingers buddy , great to see some nice tree like plants fully loaded with pods . :shocked: :clap:



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 02:35 PM

Interesting Paul Trippa you can see so many genetics of both parentage in both the pods as they go through ripening stage in the different generations , do you both think it will stablize now at this creamy colour or can you see flecks of either yellow or purple reappearing as it gets to f6/7/8 ?

 

And the important issue has it got a good all round flavour of both pods ;) :party: i know Paul said its quite hot for him lol .....

I think it tastes good, but I've abused my taste buds for 70 years,

so I'm not much at describing taste.  It's either pleasurable,

acceptable, or sucks for me.  I like Fatalis and Red Habaneros, too,

as well as Chocolate Habs as far as hot-super hot peppers go.

Paul you definately got green fingers buddy , great to see some nice tree like plants fully loaded with pods . :shocked: :clap:  They always look good in the summer sun!

Here's an August 2016 pic.  I had three F5 plants last year:

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Some august pods lower right.  Contrasts nicely with the other colors:

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September 4 harvest:

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September 9:

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Mid September:

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My favorite pods from last year.  Love the purple blush:

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Some pods going into dryer at 105-110*F for seed selection.  Unfortunately

the thermostat went out on my dehydrator, and toasted my seeds:
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Mid-October:

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Mid-October:

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Last harvest before freeze:

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Forgot about this - From Sept. - Oct. Harvest.  Saved it for Oct 31 post:

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Hope that gives a good idea pod of the progression through last

season.  Will catch up with the progress this season soon as I can.


Edited by PaulG, 25 March 2017 - 06:24 PM.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:56 PM

2017 started with really bad germination rates in

general and really disappointing for the F5.

 

Jan, 25th.  Why couldn't those two new sprouts have been in a different cell?:

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Feb. 1:

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Another, smaller seedling visible here:

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Feb. 9th:

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Feb. 16:

The F5  PDN x Bonda Ma Jacques is becoming 

a striking plant, and the late-germinating sibling

is showing the same traits:

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Be sure to check here for history of the two smaller plants you will see later in this grow.  And here.

 

February 26 - Grow table with F5 in back of Scorpions, Habaneros and MoA Bonnets::

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Feb. 27, smaller F5 plant:

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March 13th - the two cuttings in the Aero Garden.  Be sure to check the links above:

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Mar. 14th, F5 on the left:

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Same day, smaller plant:

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PDN x Bonda Ma Jacques by Tristen, F5 - 13 x 14 (33 x 36):

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See the story of the two little rooted cuttings here.

 

The two cuttings, March 18th:

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That pretty much brings it up to date.  I have some pics from the

past day or two to post - will do it by phone, then add captions.

 

 

 


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:18 PM

Absolutely beautiful! The plant AND the pods are gorgeous their entire cycle. I love it! Excellent work on this cross, Paul and fantastic work & vision, Tristen!

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:36 PM

I love that pic of the purplish blush. I remember now. A great looking plant. Sticks out among the others for sure.


Thanks for the excellent documentation.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 07:58 PM

Absolutely beautiful! The plant AND the pods are gorgeous their entire cycle. I love it! Excellent work on this cross, Paul and fantastic work & vision, Tristen!  Indeed!

-Adam

It's Tristen's baby, he could have trained a monkey to do what I did   :rofl:
 
Seriously, thank you, Adam.  I felt honored that he trusted me with his

baby during some unsettled times in his grow situation.  I'm happy it

has gone well, and that there is a lot of potential, still.  I wish I would

have saved some of those older seeds...
 

I love that pic of the purplish blush. Me, too!  I remember now. A great looking plant. Sticks out among the others for sure.


Thanks for the excellent documentation.

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My pleasure, Charles.  It's always cool to know the
background of a pepper you like to grow   :)   
 
Here are the latest pics of the F5 - after this, we're
in     :eek:    uncharted territory    :crazy:   Going for broke!

The top of the larger of the two original plants:
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The two rooted cuttings:
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Hope you have enjoyed the story of Tristen's
Mystery Cross, and that we can write future
chapters together!


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 09:37 PM

Awesome Paul... Geez the big f5 really is going berserk ... Looking amazing. Great work on the documentation of the last few years ... Can't wait to see what eventuates on both sides of the globe!!

  Everything on this glog = Just F%£*king marvelous.


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 10:33 PM

Wow, loved reading all the history of this. Really an excellent project with fantastic results so far. When I get a package that says mystery cross, I'm more than likely going to take a pass. Maybe need to rethink that method!

Thanks for sharing I'll be sure to follow all season. Good luck Paul!

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:21 AM

Wowsers! Those purple to white pods are stunning!

PDN is such a unique plant. One of a kind. And always brings something interesting to crosses!
 

The Pimenta De Neyde strain I had also been growing for 2 seasons showed prolific podding in the heat , was a tall deep purple plant with quite stretched internodal spacing which never once got hit with broadmites when almost all other plants around it did.


I found the same thing with PDN, Trips. Seeing it pod like crazy in the height of summer was truly something. Although, not sure if it was a case of not being touched by broad mite or whether it just had the ability to withstand the symptoms of attack. I did see signs on infestation on my plants but the damage was absolutely minimal.
 

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You grow some bad-ass plants, Paul. :onfire:

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:29 AM

Gassy!! Nice to see you brother ... !!

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 04:15 AM

Gassy!! Nice to see you brother ... !!

 

You too, bro! :cool:



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:42 AM

Really beautiful coloration on those. Pretty interesting cross. Following

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:19 PM

Gassy!! Nice to see you brother ... !!

+1 Trippa!  Good to see your name on the forum, Brother!

 

Really beautiful coloration on those. Pretty interesting cross. Following

 

Great to have you along, Michael, especially knowing

your interest with crosses.  I'm have a strong hunch

they cross with Bhut Jolokias pretty readily.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:30 PM

+1 Trippa!  Good to see your name on the forum, Brother!

 

Thank you, brother! It's good to be back among such warm people such as yourself and Tristen. :D

 

(And most of everyone else, of course!)

 

This thread is definitely something I will be keeping a close eye on myself. Really cool seeing where things started, where they went, where they're at now... and what's gonna happen next! :cool:



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Posted 04 April 2017 - 05:15 PM

 
Thank you, brother! It's good to be back among such warm people such as yourself and Tristen. :D
 
(And most of everyone else, of course!)
 
This thread is definitely something I will be keeping a close eye on myself. Really cool seeing where things started, where they went, where they're at now... and what's gonna happen next! :cool:  Thanks, friend, I hope something good comes out of it.  
From this point on, it's as much Tristen's thread as mine, and I hope next
season we can have enough people growing the F6 to make the thread
really interesting.

 
 
Managed to get some pics of the 'whole family' yesterday.
 
The tallest plant (F5-1) hooked on 1/12.  
The second tallest (F5-2) hooked on 1/26, so is two weeks behind F5-1.
 
The two smaller plants, F5-3 and F5-4 (brown pot), sprouted in F5-1's
container at the same time as F5-2.  F5-4 is about one day behind F5-3.
 
They grew in there until they had a second set of leaves then were cut,
rooted in test tubes and the AeroGarden, and transplanted to 2-liter containers.
So the two smaller plants are the same age as F5-2!
 
That's a 24" (60 cm) ruler in F5-1's pot.
 
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I think the smaller will go into #3 pots for
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Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:34 PM

They look amazing Paul ... Nice work ... They are certainly taking after the PDN in the height department

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:12 PM

They look amazing Paul ... Nice work ... They are certainly taking after the PDN in the height department

Yeah, buddy, they like to stretch out!

In the greenhouse:
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 12:34 PM

Love how as the plant gets taller the stunning coloured foliage really does stand out. I like the dark stems. They seem well at home in your green house Paul and getting good height. You have done a amazing job with this x of Trips. Definite looker.

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