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#1 RalphTheChilihead

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:26 AM

Anybody growing these this year? I got one naga viper plant from whitehotpeppers growing.. But which would win! Lol

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:43 AM

Guinness already answered that one. Heatwise, the Naga Viper took the Infinity Chilli's top spot after only two weeks.

Flavourwise, I haven't tried the Infinity itself but I doubt it tastes good. The InfiNaga hybrid is just a slightly more chemical tasting Bhut.

The Naga Viper, however, is a favourite of mine. Mostly Ghost with a tiny hint of Scorpion-like perfumed acidic fruit and a slightly bigger one of something fresh and green that adds instant contrast in anything you use it in.

The Infinity is prized for its length of burn only, from what I understand, but I did find the InfiNaga's deep, slow burn ideal for winter warmers so it might not be an utter loss.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:15 AM

Spice Freak is right about Guinness, but I think naga viper might be one of the reasons Guinness changed the rules.  I get the feeling maybe it will never be truly stable.  Everyone has the occasional wonky pod, especially the first ones.  But Naga Viper seems to have more than its fair share.  Changes in shape and taste seem more common.  You might be surprised.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:57 PM

Indeed. The strain has since been verified as just below 1.4 million, IIRC, but it still remains rather less stable than most as the result of being a 3-way cross of the top chillies of the time (which may, themselves have been slightly unstable).

Everything I have heard has suggested that there was a lot of PR backlash from its record and Guinness was forced to change their ways.

 

As I say though, the true Viper is a real goodie and I know I'm growing the right stuff because it matches the taste of the only UK sauce to use it, produced by the original breeder himself.

Also, if anyone gets a white one again, do let me know. I am most interested.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

Indeed. The strain has since been verified as just below 1.4 million, IIRC, but it still remains rather less stable than most as the result of being a 3-way cross of the top chillies of the time (which may, themselves have been slightly unstable).

 

Naga viper really is a mess. 3-ways are a mess too because you don't ever know what kind of recombination happened from that first parent. Its impossible to predict which traits from the first cross will make it into the second.

 

Fowler is still selling seed of the viper on the chilli pepper company website: http://www.chileseed...e-world-246.php where they have the line "we are still in the process of ensuring that what we have will be consistently one of the hottest" which could mean a few things:

  1. We are constantly producing the hybrids required to make this consistant phenotype
  2. We are continuing to inbreed and make selections, to make sure this variety is very hot by the time it is stable

If either of these are true then Fowler is the only person to buy Naga Viper seeds

 

 

Sidenote: this is one of my fav peppers and I have a tattoo of the pod, haha!



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 07:22 PM

Sidenote: this is one of my fav peppers and I have a tattoo of the pod, haha!

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 01:13 AM

Guinness already answered that one. Heatwise, the Naga Viper took the Infinity Chilli's top spot after only two weeks.

Flavourwise, I haven't tried the Infinity itself but I doubt it tastes good. The InfiNaga hybrid is just a slightly more chemical tasting Bhut.

The Naga Viper, however, is a favourite of mine. Mostly Ghost with a tiny hint of Scorpion-like perfumed acidic fruit and a slightly bigger one of something fresh and green that adds instant contrast in anything you use it in.

The Infinity is prized for its length of burn only, from what I understand, but I did find the InfiNaga's deep, slow burn ideal for winter warmers so it might not be an utter loss.


After your description of the Naga Viper, Spicefreak, I'm adding that to next years' grow. Sounds like it's right up my alley. Thank you for that.

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 07:51 PM

:pics:

 

Plot twist:  It's on his johnson.

 

"Here come tha Naga, baby!"



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Posted 01 July 2017 - 08:59 AM

Plot twist:  It's on his johnson.

If that's the case, pics will NOT be necessary, thank you... :shocked:
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 02:55 PM

:pics:

 

Plot twist:  It's on his johnson.

 

"Here come tha Naga, baby!"

 

take it in, fellas

 

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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:08 PM

 

take it in, fellas

 

Okay that's a hoot.  Love it.






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