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#1 Gorizza

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:24 PM

The 2018 AAS winners were announced recently, and although no varieties won in the "pepper" category this year, an ornamental pepper won in "flowers"

 

Takii Seed's "Onyx Red"http://all-americase...epper-onyx-red/

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Because there was no AAS thread for last year (at least not in the search) I'll highlight last years winners as well

 

There were 4 AAS winners in "Pepper" last year:

 

PanAmerican Seed's "Aji Rico F1"http://all-americase...epper-aji-rico/

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Clover Seed Co's "Chili Pie F1" - http://all-americase...pper-chili-pie/

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Clover Seed Co's "Sweetie Pie F1" - http://all-americase...er-sweetie-pie/

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PanAmerican Seed's "Mad Hatter F1" - http://all-americase...per-mad-hatter/

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So what do you think? Have you had these varieties? Grown them in different Hardiness Zones? Are you more interested in getting seed now that they are AAS winners?



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:30 PM

I hadn't heard of any of them. Mad hatter looks really cool, probably has some Bishop's Crown heritage?

Wouldn't mind growing it, but further generations may deviate from that look a fair bit. Wonder what the cross was?


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 06:19 PM

I hadn't heard of any of them. Mad hatter looks really cool, probably has some Bishop's Crown heritage?

Wouldn't mind growing it, but further generations may deviate from that look a fair bit. Wonder what the cross was?


Thanks for sharing!

 

The point would be that you would buy new seed and plant F1s every year. Not really the thing you would want to make selections and create an inbred line from (unless you want to, I know a lot of folks myself included do this as a hobby).

 

No clue what the parents were, but PanAmerican has a lot of germplasm. They call it a "Bishop's Crown" variety, so you can be sure at least one of its parents are haha.

 

 

You can't really blame the seed companies for working mostly on hybrid varieties. If it were up to us everyone would save seeds like we do and professional breeders would be out of a job. I for one am happy for all of the work that seed companies do trying out all of the possible crosses on a huge scale and picking the best ones with all the best traits for release. I am more than happy to support that. Its why I've been planting a handfull of Takii and Seminis varieties every year from new (bought) seed.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:37 PM

Yeah, without the companies, we'd have nothing ;) Forever grateful.
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:16 PM

Several of my recipes call for Bell Peppers. I've been on the lookout for varieties that are more robust in a hot and humid climate.

I was going to give Cajun Belles a try, but the Sweetie Pie and Chili Pie are also interesting since they are targeted for hot and humid climates according to their description.

I went to the page shown for "Buy Winners", but I couldn't find either the Sweetie Pie or the Chili Pie, nor any reference to Clover Seed Co.  :confused:

 

Oh well, the search goes on!

 

It's an interesting link.  There's several interesting peppers and vegetables there.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 01:51 PM

I went to the page shown for "Buy Winners", but I couldn't find either the Sweetie Pie or the Chili Pie, nor any reference to Clover Seed Co.  :confused:

 

Clover seed is a really small seed company in Hong Kong, here's a link to their site (its a pretty cute site!) https://www.cloverseed.com.hk/home

 

Park seed sells both varieties (I wonder if they are still F1... do you think Park Seed does the crosses every year required to make hybrid seed? Does clover send the seed to Park to sell?)

http://parkseed.com/.../p/52773-PK-P1/

http://parkseed.com/.../p/52774-PK-P1/

 

 

PS Cajun Belle is an awesome variety. they won AAS for Grow Star back in 2010


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Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:27 PM


Park seed sells both varieties (I wonder if they are still F1... do you think Park Seed does the crosses every year required to make hybrid seed? Does clover send the seed to Park to sell?)

 

Thanks for finding that.

 

Park Seed has a good review in the Vendor Vault.  And they also have the Cajun Belle seeds (as well as the "Aji Rico F1" and the "Mad Hatter F1").

 

And they're having a seed sale!

 

I know it's the wrong time of year, but I think I'll put in an order and set them aside until January.

 

I'm still new to all this, but I would guess that if your selling a seed branded as an "F1", you have a crossing process for reliably re-producing that seed.  From what I see following some the forum threads on crossing, all bets are off as far as what you'll have the next year with your "F2" plants.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:04 PM

if your selling a seed branded as an "F1", you have a crossing process for reliably re-producing that seed.  From what I see following some the forum threads on crossing, all bets are off as far as what you'll have the next year with your "F2" plants.

 

Correct, but their page for these plants dont explicitly say "F1" which is making me scratch my head a little. They do say "hybrid" which to me means the same thing, but to some "hybrid" just means "not heirloom."

 

I hope that Park seed is reconstituting the cross. They are certainly a big enough company to do so. I am just worried that since the F1 was developed by such a small company that maybe they sold the rights for distirbution and Park seed just decided to make selections and call the variety Hybrid instead of F1 like how it is listed on the AAS site.

 

Thats probably not the case though... unless it is.



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Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:52 PM

 

Correct, but their page for these plants dont explicitly say "F1" which is making me scratch my head a little. They do say "hybrid" which to me means the same thing, but to some "hybrid" just means "not heirloom."

 

I was looking at their web page again.  I noticed that the title (in large print) only says "Hybrid", but in smaller print below they show the variety as "F1 Hybrid".

 

Since I've never grown these before, I'm not sure I'll be able to tell whether or not they're a true F1.

 

At any rate, I think the only pepper I've grown that was nearly exactly what I expected has been Cayenne peppers.  Pretty much everything else I've grown has surprised me somehow.






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