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Chili Rayado from La Misión in the state of Hidalgo


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#1 D3monic

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:07 PM

Chili Rayado - translated to stripped chile is a heirloom pepper unique to the Town of La Misión in the state of Hidalgo Mexico. 

I got the pods from a Hispanic coworker who I often trade peppers with and given plant starts to. His parents have a house in  La Misión and spend half the year there coming back to Illinois for the winter (backward I know) 

 

For a while now i've been hearing him go on and on about this pepper and that his family usually brings a big bag of them back home every year. They just got back a few weeks ago and today he brought me a ziplock bag of them. 

 

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I believe they are a type of Jalapeno (at least google says it's in the  "jalapeno family")  Heavily corked, shorter and hotter than a typical jalapeno grown solely in the town of La Misión. 

 

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They are smoke dried for 3 days over god knows what kind of wood that's available in the region. Very smokey and have almost a raisin sweet scent to them. 

 

Here's a quick google link. http://mexicanfoodjo...m/chile-rayado/

 

 

I'm going to see if any of the seeds will germinate. Being dried over smoke for 3 days they might not be viable but considering how long they are dried maybe they don't get too hot to kill the seeds. 


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:23 PM

:clap: AWESOME!!!  :clap: thanks for posting D3

 

:think: must find seeds

 

I'd really like to grow that one next year



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

:clap: AWESOME!!!  :clap: thanks for posting D3

 

:think: must find seeds

 

I'd really like to grow that one next year

 

When I send you a sfrb this summer i'll toss in a dried pod. .. if they germinate. Going to start some this weekend to test them. 

 

Same dude is growing the pequin x goatsweed cross and is in love with FP bums Hot rod serrano x maui purp. 


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 08:43 PM

now I got to find seeds lol

 


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:35 PM

looks a bit like the farmers jala.



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:54 PM

looks a bit like the farmers jala.

 

They do look very similar, perhaps these are a bit shorter. 


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:49 AM

https://www.research...su_distribucion

Page 32 of that book is the chile rayado.

It seems to me like it is extremely similar to, if not the exact same pepper we have been calling farmers market jalapeño.

The description of the chile says that it's name "rayado" comes from the unique stripes that it has. It also says that the stripes are known as corked "corchosidad", and can be so abundant that they cover practically 100% of the fruit.

The article does not mention the type of wood used to smoke the chiles, but it does say they use an oven called a "copil" to smoke them, and that the chile rayado is considered a high quality chile for it's aroma, flavor, and characteristics.

The article also states that chile rayado pods are sold green fresh in the markets to stuff with various ingredients, or to add flavor in various dishes. The vast majority of them are ripened and smoked, though.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:41 AM

I gotta disagree that it's the same pepper as farmers jalapeno. Maybe related, but not the same imo.

 

In the pic D3 shows, I see very little horizontal striations if any, almost all vertical.

 

While the farmers jalapeno usually has horizontal striations, if not more than the vertical ones.

 

Also the size seems a bit off, farmers jalapeno are rather larger than the pods pictured in D3's hand.

 

Also the shape is questionable, I've never seen farmers jalapeno's that short.

 

I believe there are hundreds of Mexican heirloom chile's we don't really know about.

 

Many may be related but have variation from region to region, village to village.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:05 AM

I think Chris Phillips is who turned us on to the farmers jalapeno.

 

Gonna send him a link to this thread, and see if he knows the location where his source found it?

 

Whether or not the locations line up, we should have our answer.

 

Really curious about it, whether I'm right or wrong?



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:11 AM

The book I referenced does mention that the chile rayado pods can vary between 6-12 centimeters, and weight between 35-60 grams. It does also describe the chile rayado plant as having medium to high fuzziness on the foliage, which definitely sounds a lot like the foliage of the farmers market jalapeño I grew last year.

I would definitely say that this book's description of the chile rayado most closely resembles the farmers market jalapeño, than any of the other described Mexican varieties in the book.

I definitely agree that the pic of the dried pods D3monic provided look less corked, and are shorter than many of the farmers market pods I've grown. It could be that they use the less striated, and smaller chile rayado pods for smoking, but use the larger, and more corked pods for stuffing, and eating fresh.

It also could be that they are two separate cultivars completely, and this book, which describes all of the chiles from Mexico doesn't have extremely obscure chile variants that are grown in small batches in peoples home/communal gardens.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:32 AM

Hopefully Chris will shed some light for us when he has time. Until then I'll be scratching my head  :think:

 

If they're one and the same? I already have seeds.

 

I've never grown the farmers jalapeno, but I have tasted a couple that were sent to me.  :drooling:



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:21 PM

I'm interested to find out as well.

I wish I grew the farmers market jalas again this year. They are really good stuffed with cheese, wrapped in bacon, and grilled/baked.

It is pretty interesting that the first pic of the chile rayado in the article I referenced looks exactly like a fully corked farmers market jalapeño.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:32 PM

Yes I have a friend thats a member of a seed saving group and he has seeds he got from his brother that got when in mexico says its his wifes favorite pepper well he is sending me some seeds so I am going yo start some and grown in pots so I can bring them inside for the winter
I will save seed to share
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:57 PM

I just watched yhe video posted here it looks liks a different pepper than thr farmers market more fat and short
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

Population is only 920, it's reasonable to suspect that it's a regional cultivar of jalapeño endemic to that village. Xalapas was another that was similar but longer.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 01:07 PM

My friend emailed me this
I also started Chile Rayado, a Jalepeño type from the part of Mexico where we lived for some years. Chile Rayado produces a lot, it's early and the peppers tend to be hotter than a regular Jalepeño. This is my wife's favorite. Even if only dehydrated, the pods have a rich smoky flavor when added to cooking.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:04 PM

Found these 2 images the first is the farmers (from the refining fire site)

and the second Rayado: (All pics are property of their owners etc)

 

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:53 PM

Found a reference from the pepperlover website:

 

http://pepperlover.c...jalapeno-detail

 

"Whatever, the name might be, this beauty was discovered by a friend of John Fiedler from Bangor.ME, and spread by Christopher Phillips (cmpman1974) from Sterling Heights, MI."

 

 



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:08 PM

In the video the cracks go long ways not across
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:56 PM

The video D3 posted and the pic I posted come from the same source chiagro.com It says the English version of the website is under construction.






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