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#1 FreeportBum

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:10 PM

Which do you like when making a roux? And why?

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:11 PM

I see you read another post. :P



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 05:13 PM

It made me think that's for sure ;)

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:17 PM

1. Bacon fat
2. Butter
3. Oil
In that order. Lol

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:20 PM

Any fat works. Idea is to cook the flour. If using butter it should be clarified or you risk burning. Oil can make a silkier roux than animal fat, but animal fat adds richness. Personally, I grab the oil out of ease. Richness can be added later.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:24 PM

I use Butter or bacon fat depends on the dish. If I'm in a hurry I might add a little oil to the butter so I don't burn it, but never straight oil.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:40 PM

hotstuff and Phil ned to answer. Don't ask Rajun Gardner he buys it in the jar. :lol:

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:14 PM

I am actually making a pale roux tonight using butter for something different. Making a barley yogurt soup with a sizzled butter and homemade roasted chili and garlic paste topping.

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:21 PM

I trust Cajun/Creole/LA cooks more than any other... they know how to coax flavor out of nothing... that and soul food homecooks....



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:29 PM

To be honest, up until today, I never knew people used anything else other than butter. It's all I've ever done.. Learn something new every day. lol



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:34 PM

A lot of Cajun cooking is out of necessity, if you are cooking bacon, use the fat. Etc etc. I've noticed "authentic" recipes change family to family etc., and there is never one "real" way. Which I think is really cool! No neapolitan pizza or BBQ purists! lol.....



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:42 PM

How bout duck fat? That would be bomb.



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Posted 13 December 2017 - 11:31 PM

Any fat can be used for a roux.  I use butter and bacon grease as that's what'is normally quick to hand in our house.  Have a friend who swears by safflower oil for his roux because of the smoking point as he's usually after a darker roux.

 


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 06:32 AM

mostly clarified butter/ghee but occasionally bacon fat or smaltz(rendered chicken fat) .

 

  Smaltz is a great cooking fat but no where around here to buy it, so I only have it whenever we buy a lot of chicken to break down for the freezer and I render the trimmings myself. 

 

I will hoard a little jar  of that for special dishes for weeks afterwards. 


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 09:30 AM

I've always used butter and or bacon juice. Always wondered if there was any difference in flavor using just oil.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:07 PM

I bought a quart sized canister for rendered bacon fat, and we only buy a raspberry-chipotle soaked bacon from the butcher, so we only have that brand of bacon fat for cooking....

 

...On that note, I can't keep the quart canister half full.... :twisted:

 

We have oil and butter, but tell me, you guys make roux with that?


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:08 PM

     I have always used oil because of the high smoke point. Brown butter is good, but in small quantities, imo. (Whenever I scramble eggs, I brown the butter on purpose to add a little richness.) I never thought of making a cooked roux with butter. I figured it would burn.

     When I use a roux, I usually am doing so more for flavoring than for thickening. For gumbo or etouffe or whatever I try to get it really dark. But if I just want to use some flour to thicken a dish or sauce, I just use a raw room temp butter/flour paste.

 

 

 

edit: I just remembered that if I'm making gravy for roasted meat like turkey or chicken, I just use fat from drippings to make a light brown roux.


Edited by Hybrid Mode 01, 14 December 2017 - 12:12 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:12 PM

I looked at the jarred rouxs and they use oil. Understandable of course for a product like that. But some people swear by jarred versions. 



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:14 PM

     Shit after reading this thread I really need to try a bacon fat roux! Do you guys filter the fat to get the flavor crystals out? Do they burn?



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 01:43 PM

     Shit after reading this thread I really need to try a bacon fat roux! Do you guys filter the fat to get the flavor crystals out? Do they burn?

I pour it into a container and let it harden. for me all the little bits settle to the bottom. 






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