trade-show Trade Shows / Coventions - Good to build brand recognition?

In another forum, someone made a joke about Jim Duffy (Refining Fire Chili) being set up next to Ed Curry (Puckerbutt Pepper Co) at an east coast convention.  From what I can tell, they got a frenemy thing going on.  Not sure what the name of the convention is, but it seems focused on hot sauce and hot food.  Have never been to any of these event, but am curious to know from other folk who have if they are good to promote a business.  Anyway, I dont think Mr. Duffy sells hot sauces, so if the joke was based on him actually being there I imagine he is there to sell seed stock and promote his seed business.  Not sure if he is actually attending.

I mainly sell fresh peppers and do seeds as a sideline.  So I imagine when it comes to fresh, if I were at such an event it wouldnt be to sell fresh peppers but to promote the brand name.  So what I am wondering:

Seed Folk - Do seed folk set up at these spicy food events?

Promotion Only - Are there folk there set up that are not selling anything maybe handing out business cards and literature on their products?
 
Most conventions/events are $350-$900 a booth.  Plus you have to travel, haul/ship product, food and lodging.......It's expensive to do events like hot sauce shows. I've not been to a whole lot of them, but I don't remember seeing any seed or plant vendors.  Pucker Butt had some fresh Reapers at some, but that was a small offering and definitely not what they were making the money on.   They were selling wayyyy more sauces than the few hot peppers they had.  People going to the hot sauce shows are looking for sauces.  maybe some other events would cater to folks looking for plants and seeds.    
 
I'd caution against going into any of the big national events unless you have $2-3,000 just burning a hole in your pocket.  If there's something local with minimal travel expenses, might be something to look at.  But don't go to a show with expectations of making it big.  Even the shows that promoted having sales reps from distributors and such on site, they are looking for sauces not seeds.  
 
SL  
 
Thank you Salsalady.  More curious than anything else.  Kind of bored this time of the year.  All the seeds are tried, counted, and packed.  Filling orders can be done by a monkey.  I think I am going to focus on crafting during the winters.
 
hello, hot sauce shows are generally small, even when they advertise that they are the biggest. when comparing to other events in the country, they are small. a big 5k person hotsauce event is very, very small when there are 400k+ people festivals and countless 100k+ people non hotsauce festivals. making bank at these non-hotsauce festivals is fun! we meet thousands of NEW people from every walk of life at every event. We have learned sooo much about people. this is what we learn; 55% of people like spicy! Every person knows at least 10 people, out of that 10 people they know at least four who like it spicy. so.... for every one person you meet there is 4 more potential customers. those are good numbers if your trying to advertise or market your business. ive found that the numbers speak more loudly in a non-hotsauce themed festival. if your into education or enlightening of others..... the festival goer is ready to listen to some chile talk, especially on the science and health benefits. not so much at hotsauce events wheas the potential customer is usually pretty verses in their chile knowledge.  granted, hot sauce shows are filled generally with hot sauce lovers and chileheads increasing your chance of sales based on the actual theme of the event. but....most times, the event goer is looking to buy for themselves or someone very very close to them, or looking for a new product to carry at their store. the people are very much into taste testing every single item the vendors have and most times, leave with just a few items.  whereas with regular festivals, people feel compelled to purchase items for friends, colleagues, family, co-workers or their children as if its a last chance buy. especially for xmas gifts. being a chile company at a generic event makes you stand out too.  customers easily become the coolest co-worker bringing into work some hot spicy candies or a dried reaper pod for that crazy IT specialist to try or some seeds to grow. your going to increase your odds of marketing much more than a 5k person hot sauce event that usually is double if not triple the cost of a much bigger crowded festival. just my experience and our companies experience. numbers dont lie either. the week after we do a huge festival we see a peak of 20% more online sales, which then levels out to about a 10% sales increase yearly. do three or four huge festivals a year and a whopping 40% sales increase ytd. im pretty certain devoted hotsauce festivals dont even come close to those numbers for their vendors. if they do its shared by only a few vendors. keep in mind this years 400k person festival costs us $1650 for a 10x10 booth! crazy crazy expensive but.....the end profit is crazy too....like $15k crazy!   These events are really nothing special besides the amount of people it draws. other than that you can find any 100k+ person festival in any half decent city/ town across the usa for around $300 a booth if not much cheaper. with seasonal festivals, if you hit the niche, the profit speaks!!! Brand recognition comes when your brand flys and not just sits in a fridge or cabinet. when you venture into the common world and not stick to a certain group you dont restrict your marketing. 
i just felt compelled to share our companies experience. good luck on your venture
 
  
 
AJ Drew said:
Seed Folk - Do seed folk set up at these spicy food events?
Promotion Only - Are there folk there set up that are not selling anything maybe handing out business cards and literature on their products?
 
Yes
Yes
 
Depends on the event but even if the answer is no, nothing wrong with being the only one. You can go to a mustard event and find a hot dog rcompany, for example. You just have to make sure you have a direct connection to the event theme or it won't pay off unless you are one of the big guys, as in Verizon selling plans, for example.
 
Also small hot sauce makers need peppers right? B2B opp for you as well as retail. Not just other vendors but those is attendance and hobby makers.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
 
Also small hot sauce makers need peppers right? B2B opp for you as well as retail. Not just other vendors but those is attendance and hobby makers.
 
Ye, keep thinking on ways to make employees worth it.  Kind of capped right now.  We sell everything I can offer fresh, but afraid to make the leap into expansion with employees.  Most of the farm owners i know use their mortgage to pay employees then pay it down at harvest.  Seems like one hell of a risk.
 
You have to get a contract grow you can't just risk it w/o a contract. The only risk to you is if you cannot provide the peppers in the contract.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
You have to get a contract grow you can't just risk it w/o a contract. The only risk to you is if you cannot provide the peppers in the contract.
 

Essentially the same as main stream small farms growing anything.  They tend to borrow money from the bank against their mortgage.  If they have a horrible year, they are screwed.  Not my thing at all.
 
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