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#121 Winegums

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:17 AM

I for one will be happy when someone dethrones the Reaper so I can stop hearing about it and the worlds hottest title can go to someone who isn't full of marketing and bullshit.



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:04 AM

Be careful what you wish for. If Pepper X actually does dethrone the Reaper, I expect that the "marketing and bullshit" will increase exponentially. The Reaper is old news at this point, but Pepper X taking the title would give Ed a new pepper to hype up.

 

But yeah, I agree that it would be nice if someone else got a turn at the top. Personally, I would love to see the CP115 take it. I haven't tried it myself, but based on the reviews I have seen it is certainly hot enough to be a contender. And after everything that Christopher Phillips has done for the community, it would be super cool to have one of his creations take the throne. 



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:44 AM

Be careful what you wish for. If Pepper X actually does dethrone the Reaper, I expect that the "marketing and bullshit" will increase exponentially. The Reaper is old news at this point, but Pepper X taking the title would give Ed a new pepper to hype up.

 

But yeah, I agree that it would be nice if someone else got a turn at the top. Personally, I would love to see the CP115 take it. I haven't tried it myself, but based on the reviews I have seen it is certainly hot enough to be a contender. And after everything that Christopher Phillips has done for the community, it would be super cool to have one of his creations take the throne. 

You think the reaper would be old news by now but there's so many new members over on PLC that are growing it. 

I don't think the novelty surrounding the hottest pepper is a good thing at times, it tends to give novice growers stars in their eyes about having the worlds hottest in their garden. I don't think they even realize what they're growing or cared to research the genetics, flavour, etc. They only care that it's the hottest and it looks cool, not considering that it might be practically inedible to them. I grew it out one year and it was a big disappointment. The largest plant I've ever grown but it had only 5 ripe pods by the time frost came  :think: . I've since blacklisted it from future grows as there's other super hots out there that I know have solid genetics, better taste and are for all practical purposes the same level of heat. 

 

I don't like that the Reaper and Pepper X are shrouded in such secrecy, controversy and marketing wank. Why is it all needed? Seriously, it all makes it look like Ed has something to hide despite being shit proud of his peppers. For the sake of the chili growing community I'd love to see someone dethrone him and show exactly how they did it. I think it should be driven by a love of growing, tasting and breeding not seen as a chance to commercialize and make a pile of money.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:18 PM

I don't think the novelty surrounding the hottest pepper is a good thing at times, it tends to give novice growers stars in their eyes about having the worlds hottest in their garden. I don't think they even realize what they're growing or cared to research the genetics, flavour, etc. They only care that it's the hottest and it looks cool, not considering that it might be practically inedible to them.

 

 

You make a very valid point. But at the same time, if the Guinness title and the buzz surrounding it sparks more interest and gets more people into the hobby then it isn't all bad either. Let the current title holder serve to draw new growers in. It can be their "gateway" superhot, even if it really isn't a great variety for them to grow from a practical point of view. Once they discover the rest of the online community, they will have their eyes opened to all the different pepper varieties that exist, and they can start exploring the world of peppers from there.

 

As far as the secrecy and controversy surrounding both the Reaper and Pepper X making it look as if someone might have something to hide, well I have to agree. It does give that impression. It would be nice to have a Guinness title holder with a clear and certain lineage, free of all the smoke and mirrors. But for now at least, we have what we have...



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 01:36 PM

 

You make a very valid point. But at the same time, if the Guinness title and the buzz surrounding it sparks more interest and gets more people into the hobby then it isn't all bad either. Let the current title holder serve to draw new growers in. It can be their "gateway" superhot, even if it really isn't a great variety for them to grow from a practical point of view. Once they discover the rest of the online community, they will have their eyes opened to all the different pepper varieties that exist, and they can start exploring the world of peppers from there.

 

As far as the secrecy and controversy surrounding both the Reaper and Pepper X making it look as if someone might have something to hide, well I have to agree. It does give that impression. It would be nice to have a Guinness title holder with a clear and certain lineage, free of all the smoke and mirrors. But for now at least, we have what we have...

Oh, I agree that it's good for the community to have more people growing different peppers because of the worlds hottest. As "gate way" peppers, I'm sure that Ghosts, Reapers, and Scorpions have all drawn in their fair share of people to the hobby. 



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Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:30 PM

I understand that people get excited but if people would just clam up until their projects are actually complete, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:10 PM

I understand that people get excited but if people would just clam up until their projects are actually complete, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.

 

 

How else will they make lotsa bucks from a few pepper seeds when released?

 

 

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:36 AM

Happens with other stuff too. Fans start making a fangame and talk a lot about it and get a cease and desist letter and then nobody gets to play it.

Had they completed it, put it online and then talked about it, there'd be nothing anyone can do.




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