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2018 - The Farm

Well, I've been gone a few years from the board, and away from growing peppers, but looks like life is pushing me back that way again. 
 
I recently (last month) closed on a 25 acre farm in Central Illinois with some primo soil, and I'm going to give a commercial grow a test run. 
 
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From up on the roof, when I was doing some roof repairs on the outbuildings. Not much as far as the eye can see, but cornfields...
 
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Has a 4 stall garage and a horse stable on the property
 
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Probably do my grow room upstairs here after I insulate it
 
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Built some doors for the horse barn and patched the roof last month
 
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Anyway just dropped a cold grand on seeds from pepperlover and buckeye, going to hit a greenhouse supplier up for other materials next week.
 
Have plans to build a 30x72' greenhouse in the spring, and a ~1200 sq foot dedicated grow room. Too late really to help with this year's grow, but next year it'll save me a lot of hassle on hardening off. 
 
The greenhouse, I am going to do a piped infloor heat slab, with a horizontal loop geothermal system (I own a mini excavator) that is solar powered. So heating should be nice, uniform, not create heat / cold bubbles, and not dry out plants like forced air would. I build circuit boards in my day job, so I will also build a microcontroller to handle the automated watering system with soil moisture monitors and actuated plumbing valves on the water supply.
 
Also plan on building a "deep winter" greenhouse for year round production. Got blueprints I made from a couple of years back, those are walled on three sides with heavy duty insulation, with the glass wall side angled to face winter solstice, so you can grow in the deep freeze months of the north. In the summer, those get hot enough to use as a natural dehydrator, replace the tables with racks for bulk drying.
 
Only doing a half acre or so of peppers to start with this year, the balance will be put in corn. I can't manage more than that with the labor I have available. (When you start talking thousands of plants, simple tasks like up-potting grow in to hundreds or thousands of man hours...)
 
Going to hire some local kids to help, school has a good ag co-op program for high schoolers, they can get school credit working on local farms. Since the plant out and harvest doesn't conflict too badly with corn, shouldn't have a problem finding labor around here.
 
Anyway, that's the plans.
 
We'll see how it goes.. er.. grows.
 
 
Glad to see everything is on the upswing ;)
 
Breathe easy and don't use ferts until they lighten up on their color. I know you love the nutes ;)
 
That crazy bastard blew himself up today, which means we don't have to pay for his prison stay.
 
I fear, just like with the school shootings, some fool may copy him. Lord I hope not!
 
Grow on brutha!
 
Devv said:
Glad to see everything is on the upswing ;)
 
Breathe easy and don't use ferts until they lighten up on their color. I know you love the nutes ;)
 
That crazy bastard blew himself up today, which means we don't have to pay for his prison stay.
 
I fear, just like with the school shootings, some fool may copy him. Lord I hope not!
 
Grow on brutha!
 
I'm only going to the farm every other day now. Got all the plants out there on the same watering schedule finally. Although those damn tomatoes are getting THIRSTY. Pretty soon they'll all be big enough (deep enough roots) to bottom water. Which will be nice. Fill up a 5 gal bucket, add 5 teaspoons of pH down, dump it on the table, repeat.
 
Plan for ferts is every Friday, but we'll see how it goes. 
 
ETA: have a friend on Austin PD who was at the scene. He said the dude was somewhere between dead and REALLY frigging dead.  He tried to torch off the bomb when 5 SWAT guys were standing right behind the vehicle, I guess the plan was to get them too. As it turns out, only one member of the team caught a tiny piece of glass that a bandaid fixed, the rest were completely uninjured.
 
So, that ended as well as it could have.
 
 
 
TrentL said:
 
Yes down in Southern Illinois we refer to any land above I-80 as "Occupied Territory"
Lol, never heard that. Occupied by who?

Plants look great, glad you got it dialed in but get some timers!
 
the drama!
 
thanks for sharing Trent!
 
Some of your challenges have reminded me exactly why I went to soil-less medium with liquid nutes until plant out. Some of this stuff is so hard to figure out! Well done....I imagine you are learning a lot!
 
ColdSmoke said:
the drama!
 
thanks for sharing Trent!
 
Some of your challenges have reminded me exactly why I went to soil-less medium with liquid nutes until plant out. Some of this stuff is so hard to figure out! Well done....I imagine you are learning a lot!
 
Man they organics are growing fast, I'll post up some more pics tonight. Got another ~180 tomato transplants to haul out there tonight. 
 
The hydro ones, well, they did NOT like switching from one type of hydro fertilizer to the other. I waited a week in between, gave them the new stuff, and ... bad nute burn. I'm waiting for them to come around. 
 
Organics still doing good.
 
Wife's phone camera was used, I forgot mine at home, it's a bit harsh on the colors, but they're getting big and looking great.
 
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Hundreds of new little maters out at the farm now...
 
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Some big hairy guy lurking in the background
 
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Wife nicknamed this tomato "scrawney" and adopted it as a pet.
 
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I'm not actually convinced it's a tomato yet.
 
The hydro pots I nuked (left) on accident (nitrogen overdose)
 
Old failed organic soil experiment right, thriving, once I figured out that I needed to water it with a relatively strong acid to get the pH back in line (those actually got watered with 3.35 pH and they started growing amazingly...)
 
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Anyway lots of plants out there now.. well over 1,000 at this point.
 
 
Oh man you want seedlings? I'll try to post some pics of the basement grow room later. Every tray is sprouted and working on their first true leaves, some on their second. And unlike the first round and a half of failures, Justin's stuff is popping at or very near 100% in every tray. There's legions of happy green seedlings in the basement. :)
 
The 1,000 at the farm is less than 1/3 of what is growing. And there's 12 more trays of tomatoes getting started today, since a lot of those other 2/3rds are ready to get transplanted.
 
In a completely related topic, my house is well insulated enough, and the grow room warm enough, that my furnace at home hasn't ran in two weeks. Ever since I had to go to a 24 hour light schedule and swap trays out 2x a day, the furnace hasn't ran. Not once.
 
We have the fan running, and the heat is on, just hasn't kicked in in 2 weeks. Set point is at 68 degrees and the house but - thanks to the grow lights - the house temp has remained within 74-76F without using the furnace at all. This is with outdoor temps dropping below freezing every night.
 
We actually have to open windows in the house before we go to bed, otherwise we toss and turn and sweat to death. Yes, opening windows when it's snowing outside, to cool the house down. 
 
Granted, there's 40 amps @ 120v burning 24/7 but at least we aren't paying for that *and* the furnace to run together. :)
 
 
Trent! I've been thinking... How the heck are you going to sun-condition all these guys??? That's going to be a royal PITA carrying thousands of plants in and out of the farm for a week.
 
fcaruana said:
Trent! I've been thinking... How the heck are you going to sun-condition all these guys??? That's going to be a royal PITA carrying thousands of plants in and out of the farm for a week.
 

Good question. This year I just put them outside and they sorted it out. It wasn't pretty at first though.... ;)
 
fcaruana said:
Trent! I've been thinking... How the heck are you going to sun-condition all these guys??? That's going to be a royal PITA carrying thousands of plants in and out of the farm for a week.
 
I'll take the lazy approach and put them on the north side of the farm outbuilding, out of direct sunlight. They will still get refractive UV from clouds and whatnot.
 
As plantout gets closer we'll shuffle them in to direct sunlight for increasing amounts of time, then back in to shade.
 
If it frosts, depending on how bad it looks, and what sort of wind we're looking at, we'll either cover them or haul them back inside where it's warm, overnight.
 
I did this in 2015, and it worked out really well;
 
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Just stick them on the shady side of a building and they'll start to get refractive UV off of clouds/etc. 
 
Then as they get close to planting start direct sun hardening; which at the farm, will be "dragging them 15 feet further north for a time"
 
Pretty easy.
 
 
Hmm I think I goofed up one of my fertilizer runs about a week ago. Like, kinda huge. Like, mixing tablespoons instead of teaspoons on CalMag, or something.
 
Got some nasty weird growth patterns going on some of the plants, and some transplants just totally stalled out on me for some unknown reason.
 
There's signs of iron, magnesium, and other shortages, which can only be attributed to a calcium overdose. New growth is yellow, twisted. Massive forking. Too fast of growth. Dark purple leaves. Bright yellow leaves with purple veins. Rust colored leaves. They are just running the whole gamut of micronutrient deficiency. Which, pretty sure, is from overdosing them on calcium.
 
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Then again, these ones I thought were dead, gone, toast, really surprised me in the last week. I accidentally watered them with 3.35 pH and it brought them out of their tiny, miniscule, discolored, purple-yellow-curled leaf slumber. They're back on organic food now, after getting switched to hydro for a couple weeks.
 
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Woke these tomatoes up too. :)
 
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Legions of viney, Amish Paste seedlings still hanging on. I lost a few of these on transplanting, though. Some that I'd separated out of 3/4 tomatoes per cell didn't really have much in the way of roots, dried out on the top of the pot, and sort of just keeled over and died as a dry husk.
 
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These are the Hydro A+B plants. They're not doing as well as I hoped they would be doing. Again, I messed up here. I didn't realize that the A+B stuff I was using already had calcium (5%) and magnesium (2%) in it, and I .. sort of added more calmag on top of that. They should come back around once the excess calcium is flushed out, eventually.
 
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An assortment of previous failed experiments, all doing their thing. There's a mutant tomato plant in there which my wife nicknamed "scrawney"
 
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"HEEEERE's SCRAWNEY!"
 
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And the pride of the collection, the totally organic peppers and tomatoes that are rocking out. 
 
Problem is, I can't reproduce what the hell I did to get these started off so well. SOMETHING is different because my new batches of the same exact mix, aren't behaving the same way. I'm at a loss on what I did "right" on these.
 
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I had to space the big maters out because they were overgrowing each other... there's tiny Amish Paste hidden between each one.
 
PtMD989 said:
Have you had your Farm soil analysis done yet ?


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No, the field is still muddy. We've had nothing but snow and rain for a month and a half now. Hasn't dried out long enough to take decent samples.
 
Edmick said:
Heres something interesting trent. The first picture is some rainforest tri color peppers I started in a mix of one cup worm castings to every gallon of coco coir. The second picture is in straight coir. The difference is notable. I'll post this to my grow log also.
 
Worm castings add 1-0-0 NPK plus some sulfur so they will develop faster.
 
What this is telling you is you need to give the other tray a diluted fertilizer; they've "stalled out".
 
The first tray with worm castings will stall out quickly as well as it won't have any significant source of phosphorous.
 
5-1-1 Fish emulsion (2 tablespoon per 5 gallons) + 0-11-0 liquid bone meal (2 tablespoon per 5 gallons) + 2 teaspoons calmag / 5 gal is what I've been using on seedlings.
 
That's a 20% dose as what I'm using calls for 2 tablespoons per gallon on mature plants.
 
If you are using hydro nutes modify accordingly; 20-25% for first leaves, 50% once second leaves are mature and 3rd leaves are forming, after 3rd set of leaves I crank it up to 100% rated dosage. But your mileage may vary. Also, check your hydro a+b stuff to see if it's already got cal-mag, if it does, don't add from another source like I did.. it causes iron, magnesium, and other lockout if you OD them on calcium..
 
DO NOT GET DRUNK AND ADD 2 TABLESPOONS OF EACH PER GALLON. I left my notes at home and read the containers instead, after a few beers, and f'ed up about 400 peppers and tomatoes horribly bad. (Finally traced down the source of my problems at the farm after reviewing my notes). I gave them the FULL STRENGTH that a full size mature plant needs and also overdosed them on calcium / magnesium by using.. uhh, tablespoons.. instead of teaspoons.. (which is 3x dose)
 
Hopefully they'll .. uhh, "grow out of it.." 
 
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