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#1 mitchNC

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 10:12 AM

My son asked me to make something really hot.  I made this recipe the other day, but I also added a Reaper.

 

Ghost pepper sauce

 

I tasted it before I bottled it and it was ridiculous.  One drop had me in pain.

I took it to a get-together last night and people that tasted said it was good, but not very hot.

 

I tasted it and they were right.  It's no hotter than Tobasco.

 

How? 6 ghosts and a reaper and it's not hot?  I was eating it by the spoonful last night (it's yummy).

 



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Posted 03 May 2019 - 10:22 AM

My son asked me to make something really hot.  I made this recipe the other day, but I also added a Reaper.
 
Ghost pepper sauce
 
I tasted it before I bottled it and it was ridiculous.  One drop had me in pain.
I took it to a get-together last night and people that tasted said it was good, but not very hot.
 
I tasted it and they were right.  It's no hotter than Tobasco.
 
How? 6 ghosts and a reaper and it's not hot?  I was eating it by the spoonful last night (it's yummy).
 

Evaporated? Lol.

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 12:32 PM

Evaporated? Lol.

 

Actually not a Lol... 

 

Besides the peppers used not being up to snuff in the heat department "cooking" peppers can reduce capsaicin due to temp/amount of heat used in processing. But 6 super-hots? NAAAWWW!


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Posted 03 May 2019 - 02:17 PM

So you tasted it, it was hot, then you bottled. Did you add anything after you tasted? 



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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:21 PM

Nope. Just let it cool.

I just covered my tacos with it.
Tastes great, not hot.

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:23 PM

Maybe your tongue died.

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:42 PM

Maybe you are being pranked. Did someone swap out your sauce???????????

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:19 AM

Come on man!
This isn't a thing?

I'm telling you, it was wicked hot and then it wasn't.

I'm trying to get consistent recipes to hopefully sell locally. I can't do that when something goes from a million Scoville to 5000.

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Posted 04 May 2019 - 02:47 AM

Add salt to it because salt makes things hotter. ;)

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:16 PM

All jokes aside Mitch I have no idea why the sauce did not retain its heat.  That many supers in that small a batch should be lighting you up.  

 

Cooking peppers does indeed lower heat values a little, and I suppose if you cooked it hot enough for long enough you could evaporate some percentage of the heat - but 6 ghosts plus a reaper with 2 tomatoes, an onion and some vinegar should still be ridiculously hot after an overnight rest.

 

Side note: For future sauce making I would omit any/all oils in your sauces as it can go rancid.  

 

 


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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:22 PM

That's a good point.  This is the first time I've ever used oil.  I usually dry-roast them in a skillet.

I just blindly followed the recipe.



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 12:45 PM

But it still does not answer the question of where the heat went after bottling. If I read it right, you tasted it just before bottling.

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:08 PM

But it still does not answer the question of where the heat went after bottling. If I read it right, you tasted it just before bottling.

 

 

Yep.  I even told my wife "I don't want this in my house."  :)



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Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:17 PM

Don't worry it killed off the spirits that stole it :lol:



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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:33 PM

Wrapping up the saga...

 

The batch I made yielded 2 1/2 5-oz bottles.

The half-bottle is the one I've been eating on everything, and it was refrigerated the whole time.

 

I just remembered your point about oil and went to move the other 2 bottles from the pantry to the fridge.

I decided to taste them first.

 

When I opened them they had been fermenting, so they hissed and foamed.

I tasted them and they are HOT AS HELL.  I'm still in pain as I type this.  One drop.  My wife is also in agony.  LOL.

 

So...did refrigeration alter the sauce?  I don't know, but I doubt it. I have many bottles of other sauces in the fridge that are still hot.

  I'll give those other 2 bottles a few days and try them again.

 

 

 



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Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:47 PM

You don't want to be tasting homemade sauces with oil left out at room temp that fermented! Man that is playing with fire, pun intended. #botulism 



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Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:10 PM

Crap! I'm throwing it out.
I'll make another batch without oil.

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:02 PM

okay so the stuff that had been cold the whole time was tame - if I am reading that right?

 

the stuff at room temp was en fuego yeah?  makes sense.  any food will not 'taste' it's full 'taste-ness' at cold temps.

 

the sauce at room temp had been fermenting for 5 days - long enough to be safe if the original recipe had enough salt - but as is I agree about flushing it to be sure.

 

perhaps the same recipe repeated with more salt is fine after ferment, but then again you told your wife that you didn't want the original mash in your house so.,...

 

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 12:54 AM

What? Hot sauce is not hotter at room temp. Heat is not a flavor. I guess ymmv. He is claiming it went from scorching to nothing. You are saying take that one out of the fridge and it becomes a scorcher? That would be a first for me.

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Posted 09 May 2019 - 03:19 PM

I just made the recipe again, exactly the same but no oil.

It's dare-level hot.  Completely outrageous.

 

We'll see.






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