I'm growing a variety of hot peppers in 5 gallon pals and used Miracle Grow mix potting soil regrettably. My pepper leaves are growing huge with lots of foliage and the flowers are dropping, haven't produced any fruit, plants are growing tall too. Too much nitrogen in Miraclegrow potting mix maybe? Question is is there a way to fix this without having to repot all my plants with different soil?
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Flower drop
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Don't believe the hype about nitrogen setting back pods. It's not that at all, and if it were, it would have to be more nitrogen than what Miracle Gro gives you. If the first leaves are huge, this is a function of your environment. Temp, humidity, oxygen levels, etc. If this were my plant, I'd remove the gigantic lower leaves. Where in Canada are you, and what have your temps been during the day and at night? (only answer that if you're growing outdoors)
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Of course I don't have to worry about that, because it's so fecking hot and humid where I'm at, that leaves can't and don't get that large. But big leaves aren't a sign of your growing prowess. It actually sounds to me like maybe it's too cool for pods to set. But then, you haven't said what kind of plants you're growing. Or much of any kind of info, really. LOL
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Of course I don't have to worry about that, because it's so fecking hot and humid where I'm at, that leaves can't and don't get that large. But big leaves aren't a sign of your growing prowess. It actually sounds to me like maybe it's too cool for pods to set. But then, you haven't said what kind of plants you're growing. Or much of any kind of info, really. LOL
miracle grow is not the problem. i`ve used it before and my plants did well. first thing is don`t overwater. what solid7 said may be it. too cool. give it time and they should set some pods. the more info you give the better answers you will get.
They are outside located in southern Ontario, temperature has been mid 30s (Celsius)average, I have cut off the larger leaves already no dice...I'm getting tons of flowers they just keep falling off..I haven't been overeating either, I gave a few plants to my inlaws and they used just a triple mix soil and they are already fruiting.
solid7 said:
I'm growing Reapers,scorpions, Ghosts,7 pots a variety of Ajis, sugar peach, and few other varieties..there's some cayenne and jalapenos growing near by different soil and they're growing pods already..so I figured had to be the soil I'm using.
i have had flowers drop also, both early in the season and when temps reach 90+ F. i think if you just give it time your plants will put out some pods. if you want to try it, repot one in different potting mix to see if it changes anything. i`m still in the "it isn`t the soil" camp. miracle grow is not the best potting soil available but it is more than adequate.
Flower drop probable causes:
1. Day temp too high >95F
2. Night temp too low <65F or too high >85F
3. Too much nitrogen fertilizer
4. Too much water
5. Low light levels (reduces fertility).
6. Very low humidity (reduces fertility)
7. Poor air circulation (air circulation contributes to pollination).
8. Lack of pollinating insects.
9. Size of pot
10. Too much mineral in feedwater.
[SIZE=11pt]11. Too much grower attention/anxiety[/SIZE]
1. Day temp too high >95F
2. Night temp too low <65F or too high >85F
3. Too much nitrogen fertilizer
4. Too much water
5. Low light levels (reduces fertility).
6. Very low humidity (reduces fertility)
7. Poor air circulation (air circulation contributes to pollination).
8. Lack of pollinating insects.
9. Size of pot
10. Too much mineral in feedwater.
[SIZE=11pt]11. Too much grower attention/anxiety[/SIZE]
I've had great success with Miraclr-Gro potting media (Not soil). Which are you using?>Miracle-Gro growing_ media or soil?
Its not the Miracle Grow. I was having the same issue with my Aji Champion. It was producing flowers like crazy but kept dropping them. All other varieties were setting fruit just fine. I narrowed it down to the plant being sensitive to my extreme heat/humidity, so I moved it to a shady spot in my yard and bam, two days later it was loaded with pods. My soil is a mixture of MG, compost and sand.
Jasokaymak said:
Well, we could figure out what the chemical composition is of each of the NPK components of your fertilizer, set it up in a matrix, do a little linear algebra, and figure out if you've got an antagonistic relationship between your cations and anions. (of course we'd have to figure at specific temperatures) But in the end, it's a whole lot of work, and I think you'd be shockingly disappointed to find that you have to move a whole lot of nitrogen - and specifically, AMMONIUM, to create the kind of problem that would cause flower drop.
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So I reiterate... Nitrogen is NOT your issue.
Just checked the weather history for London On., night time temps have been getting down into the lower 60s F, low tonight is 57 F. From my experience, super hots do better in hotter temps, they aren't going to like night time temps in the 50s. If you're in a low area your temps could be even lower than the official forecast. Local topography can change your temps by quite a lot.