I know you don't typically grow citrus trees from seed. Most are grafted onto a root stock for another plant.
But I can't resist trying.
I got this seed from some Satsuma's growing on a friend's Owari Satsuma tree. Out of about eight Satsuma's, I only found two seeds, and this is the only one that's germinated so far.
I've tried this before several years ago with some Clementines from WalMart. I could get the tree to grow up to about 8-10 feet high after a few years, but the tree never produced any flowers.
I've heard somewhere that most seeds you try to save from commercially produced citrus will either not germinate at all, or grow into a sterile tree.
I'm slightly more optimistic about the Satsuma since it's a niche citrus fruit that was brought over from Japan about 100 years ago, and is typically only found on the Gulf Coast.
The Satsuma tastes a lot like a Tangerine or a Clementine, and can handle a moderate freeze. Most Satsuma trees will handle a 28 degree freeze just fine without any extra protection, and sometimes even lower. The Satsuma tree that I got these seeds from is protected from the direct brunt of a strong Northern wind, but otherwise the owner doesn't do anything else to protect the tree, and we've had several nights in the low 20s this year.
The more I learn about commercial hybrids, the less interested I become about harvesting their seeds.
Don't get me wrong, a commercial hybrid plant will often be a robust and prolific plant. Many gardeners and commercial growers find this to be a compelling attribute. I have a few hybrids myself that I will be growing this year.
But the commercial seed producers don't really want you to harvest their seeds. They want you to come back and buy them again next year. If they can, they will try to make the harvested seeds unattractive in various manners.
Given the effort I put into harvesting seeds and growing them out in the following years, I don't want to waste too much time on seeds that are often designed to cause problems when you try to grow them out. There's such a wide variety of open-pollinated pepper varieties out there, why spend time on seeds that often aren't supposed to grow right.
Posted by DontPanic
on 25 February 2018 - 05:18 PM
As a secondary question to above - I keep reading about dominant and recessive gene, is it from the male or female part of the flower? Or can it be controlled by by pollinating the male/female part of the flower? What I mean is, I have a prolific fruiting plant, let's say BHUT JOLOKIA BLACK, that I want to have as the dominant gene and cross it with TRINIDAD SCORPION CHOCOLATE to infuse the better production? So, is it pollen (Male) from the Bhut to the pistil (Female) of the Trinidad or Trinidad pollen to the pistil of the Bhut? Or does it matter?
To elaborate a little on Dane's response, for those traits controlled by the nDNA, you can't change the relationship regarding which gene is dominant, and which gene is recessive. Whenever the recessive trait is the desirable trait, the game is to get both pairs of genes to carry the recessive gene. If either or both genes carry the dominant gene, the plant will exhibit the dominant trait.
Posted by DontPanic
on 19 February 2018 - 11:31 PM
Thanks. I think Im beginning to see.
I was confused because I knew at least a few of the traits that are typically advertised must be recessive (just based on the laws of probability). But, if you have two specially cultivated parent lines with similar recessive genes where necessary, and only a handful of carefully selected recessive/dominant genes (carefully split between the parents), you can maintain the necessary recessive traits while still sprinkling in enough other recessive traits to throw succeeding generations into chaos as long as one parent has an off-setting dominant trait to stabilize the f1 generation.