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glog CaneDog 2025 Indoor/Outdoor Glog

Seems like it's been forever since I made a glog post, but 2025 is right around the corner and as someone once said, it's never too early to get started! Last year was a tough year with aphids getting into my early season starts and generally cool sucky weather, so I'm hoping for better in 2025. I'll kick things off with some pic's of my current indoor grow, which I've taken over the past couple/few weeks.

First up is a Scarlett's Chili x Poblano. They're cool looking plants with great tasting mild peppers. I'm doing a lot of work with Jalapenos and planned maintain this variety going forward while also backcrossing it a bit toward its jalapeno roots.
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Another Jalapano type I have growing inside is Chile Rayado. I like how fuzzy these guys are. In addition to needing more true seeds, I want to cross it with both zapotec and orange spice jalaps.
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Farmers Market Jalapeno. Another fuzzy type. Somehow I've gone forever without growing these before. I'm impressed with how vigorous and robust they are.
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Mayan Cobanero. Another first time growing for me. I've been keeping it in a solo to rein in its growth, as I often do indoors, but shortly after this pic I saw it start to bud/fork so I moved it up into a 5.5" pot to fill out.
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Baccatum Fragilis, with its rather unique mutated look.
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Rhomboidium. After my OW finally died, I had only old-ish seeds to start again so I planted a bunch. I ended up with almost a dozen of these guys so had to cull them back. This guy was one of the lucky few that made it.
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Rocoto Manzano Amarillo Ollantaytambo. Some of the rocotos haven't been too happy being restricted in solo cups, but they're looking good and still staying fairly small after getting upped to 5.5's. This guy still shows a little chlorosis on its lower leaves, but seems happy enough.
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Anyhow, enough for now.
Cheers!
CD
 
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It's plant-out time here. I got out today for my second day and I'm hoping to have it wrapped up in 2-3 more visits to the community garden.

I had some aphid challenges indoors during May. Getting the plants outside to my deck helped a lot. Now I'm seeing the good guys start to show up, which should help even more.
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Here's the Jalapeno bed. Varieties are Lytle's, Mucho Nacho, Zapotec x Orange Spice F1, Zapotec x Rayado F1, Voodoo6's Giant Jalapeno '24, Orange Spice, Chile Rayado, Zapotec, Biker Billy, Jalapeno M, Lemon Spice, Farmer's Market, and Spicy Slice. I managed to forget the Lytle's, so I'll bring that next time and maybe rearrange.
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Same bed from the other end, with Tesuque Pueblo closest, then Chilcostle Rojo and Ancho Durango in the next row back, left to right.
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And the tomato bed. A little skimpy, as none of the roma plants were quite ready for transplant.
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Lastly, the tomatillos. I heeled them in today so they won't dry out and will plant them next time. I first have to deal with a mess of grass roots in their bedding area. Two plants each of Latina X, Queen of Malinalco, Verde, Purple, and Amarylla.
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Things are getting real here!
CD
 
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A quick pic of a small harvest of isolated pods I just pulled from the deck peppers. These are mostly small plants in small containers grown for the purpose of isolated seeds, except for the rocotos, which have already been transplanted up to bigger pots so they can produce a second larger harvest during the main season. Clockwise from the big yellow ones: SLP Giant Yellow Rocoto, Farmers Market Jalapeno, Onza Amarillo, Chilcostle Rojo, and Rocoto Aji Largo. This will be my first time trying the Onza Amarillo and Chilcostle Rojo, so I'm curious what they'll be like.

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I managed to get out and do a little more work at the community garden tonight.

I dug over the end of the plot and pulled out all the grass and grass roots. I wanted to use this area for tomatillos, but it's slanted downward left to right in the picture and it's hard to water because the water pretty much runs downhill instead of settling in. I decide to cut half the bottom of some 5 gallon buckets and sink those into the ground so that I could control the watering. Also, I mixed some peat moss and other goodies into the top part of the buckets for them. I figure this way I'm concentrating the water and nutrients, but the roots can just keep on reaching down plus I'll get good drainage.
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Here they are with the tomatillos planted
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Before I left I added the Lytle's Jalapeno I'd forgotten last visit to the Jalapeno raised bed and rearranged things a bit. This bed has a bunch of vermicompost added that I brewed up over the winter. Next on the list is to plant the length of the right side of the plot with Mexican heirloom varieties. I've turned that over and removed the grass and roots already, so it should be quick planting.
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Lookin good CD! That pile of grass roots took some effort, lol. Good idea with the buckets for the tomatillos, but man, you're gonna have a shit-ton of fruit! Looking forward to seeing what you do with them later this season.
 
Thanks @Downriver. Only someone who's dealt with it before would know how much of a hassle the invasive grass can be. It's easier as the ground dries out though, and my strategy now when I have time is to dig it over one day and parse the roots another after the clumps have dried out some.

I am going to have WAY too many tomatillos 🤣 I learned before that 2-3 plants is probably plenty, but I want the different varieties and having 2 of each will let me isolate for seeds if they're uncooperative about self pollination. If they grow as expected I'll be looking to give away a lot of tomatillos before long.

I hope things are coming along well with your garden. I'm looking forward to you posting some pictures as your season progresses!
 
CaneDog said:
Fortunately I have multiple freezers! 🤣

Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it. I'd like to pressure can some liters of tomatillo salsa, but it can be hard to find the time at harvest. Freezing seems to be an easy solution.
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It was our solution when we lived in 🇪🇺. We gave them a quick clean and stored them in freezer bags, per kg. They become mushy once you take them out of the freezer though, so they're only good for salsa.
 
CaneDog said:
Thanks @Downriver. Only someone who's dealt with it before would know how much of a hassle the invasive grass can be. It's easier as the ground dries out though, and my strategy now when I have time is to dig it over one day and parse the roots another after the clumps have dried out some.

I am going to have WAY too many tomatillos 🤣 I learned before that 2-3 plants is probably plenty, but I want the different varieties and having 2 of each will let me isolate for seeds if they're uncooperative about self pollination. If they grow as expected I'll be looking to give away a lot of tomatillos before long.

I hope things are coming along well with your garden. I'm looking forward to you posting some pictures as your season progresses!
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I freeze tomatillos every year. They are used in sauces and salsa. I found roasting them while fresh on the BBQ and then freezing works well. The roasting process converts the juice into a delicious sweet/tart nectar. They also pack well into jars for the freezer after being roasted.
 
mcbob said:
I freeze tomatillos every year. They are used in sauces and salsa. I found roasting them while fresh on the BBQ and then freezing works well. The roasting process converts the juice into a delicious sweet/tart nectar. They also pack well into jars for the freezer after being roasted.
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Thanks, mcbob! Roasting then freezing was exactly what I was planning to look into for at least some of them.
 
This community garden plot is getting close to planted. I got out tonight and turned over the long row. I'd done it once already a week or so ago, so this time it was just a touch-up.

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It's mostly planted now, with about 6 spots left I'll fill next trip. The new residents are Cascabel, Chilcostle Rojo, Chile de Arbol "G", Chile de Onza, Chilhuacle Amarillo, Chilhuacle Amarillo Long, Chilhuacle Negro, Chilhuacle Rojo R, Costeno Rojo, Guajillo - Native, Mirasol - MGP, Mirasol - Mosco, Mulato Isleno, Onza Amarillo, Pasilla Apeseo, Pasilla Bajio Negro H, Pasilla Bajio Negro R, Pasilla Mixe, Pasilla Oaxaca, Taviche, and Zapotec x Hidalgo F1.
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Onza Amarillo. I tried a ripe pepper off this guy the other day and it lit me up pretty good for an annuum. Fruity taste too. I suspect it would be pretty good in a salsa.
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The 10 day forecast looks good. Hopefully they'll root in a bit before the 80's hit.
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What type of soil does your plot have? It looks rather sandy.
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It's sandy-clay type soil. I trucked in 5 cubic yards = 3.8 cubic meters of compost years ago, but since then I've only spot amended it. It's gotten pretty hydrophobic, but still grows okay. I should probably be considering another compost load, but it's a lot of work to move that much material and its has to be wheelbarrowed up from a parking lot a good distance away. Plus it has to be done in one session immediately upon deliver.
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This is a really nice big plot of land and you've certainly put a lot of work into it, I can't wait to see how the plants grow and what you think of these heirlooms!
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Thanks, hopefully they'll do well. The plot is 40' x 10' = 12 x 3 meters. I have two plots this size, so one more to go after this one is planted. I have the second plot scheduled for this weekend.
 
Buy a few 10 or 11 lb. blocks of coco coir. Easy to transfer to the location dry. Water them up, break into soil, and amend with a rake. You don't need the buffered stuff when going into the ground. Just some cheap rinsed (low EC/pH neutral) blocks. One block will expand to just under 20 gallons of soil.

A tarp will come in handy for the process.
 
The Hot Pepper said:
Buy a few 10 or 11 lb. blocks of coco coir. Easy to transfer to the location dry. Water them up, break into soil, and amend with a rake. You don't need the buffered stuff when going into the ground. Just some cheap rinsed (low EC/pH neutral) blocks. One block will expand to just under 20 gallons of soil.

A tarp will come in handy for the process.
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Coco coir is also highly water-retaining, which could be a problem in combination with a clay-based soil, in itself already highly water-retaining. I'm not familiar enough with US climate types, but I always thought the Oregon-Washington coast was temperate and moist, so I'd triple double-check before using coco coir as a soil amendment.
 
The soil does well enough, especially in this plot, though I'd like to get a big bunch of biomatter into it reasonably soon. I do something similar to the coir idea, but I have 800 square feet so I just spot amend the planting holes where I think it might need it with soil conditioner (or peat moss in a pinch) and nutrients.

I got out to the plot for a bit again tonight and finished planting the main row with a Puya and
Hidalgo, Huasteco, and Tampiqueno serranoes.
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I dropped a Ring of Rire cayenne into the open corner of the tomato bed. I got the seeds from dragonsfire years back and man do these produce. I figure giving it the better conditions of the raised bed should pay good returns. Plenty of isolated pods on this plant already.
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This Guntur Sannam went into the other plot because I'm running out of room in this one. They get pretty wide and produce well so I found a good spot for it over there.
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My last space in this plot for peppers. I'm not sure yet what I'll put here, but I dug it deep and cleared out all the grass roots so it's ready to go. I have a couple nice Jeromin plants, so I was thinking I might drop them here, but I'm not committed to that plan yet. I also have a Tabasco and a Bradley's Bahamian that might pair up nicely here.
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Cheers! 🌱🌱🌱
 
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