annuum Are all Chiltepins Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum?

Spicegeist

Spicegeist

Now that I've grown a few different Chiltepin/Tepin varieties and the Florida Wild/Calusa Indian Mound/Grove Pepper I've noticed two different plant forms.  I wonder if these are really both Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum?
 
This type looks like other C. annuum plants:

 
This type looks different.  Shorter more heart-shaped leaves, the plant doesn't branch as quickly as the first type either.

 
Datil said:
 
I know for sure that there is a frutescens 'version' of Grove Pepper.
 
Cya
 
Datil
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Well the plants I've grown that don't look like standard C. annuums were definitely not C. frutescens either.  Sonoran Chiltepin and another I received labelled simply as Tepin.
 
Since you mentioned it, if you happen to know where I can find some C. frutescens grove pepper seed, please let me know ;)
 
Seems like they have developed in several different directions,would be interesting to find out why. All seem to have the upright flower,no teeth on the calyx,and hot. I see similar differences between some chacoense and that has had my interest lately. Have you ever crossed the two of them Charles?
 
Here is a couple of mine. 
 
 
Tepin 1
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Tepin 2
 
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Actually after looking at them again, they do look a lot like your second pic. The leaves were much rounder under the lights a few weeks ago. 
 
I have raised lots of tepins named for many  states in Méjico and they are not all the same.
 
I am not surprised at this, they have acclimatized to different geography.
 
i have one MAYO CHILITEPIN plant and it does look like a c. annum but i myself am not sure if there all c. anuum
 
Pr0digal_son said:
Seems like they have developed in several different directions,would be interesting to find out why. All seem to have the upright flower,no teeth on the calyx,and hot. I see similar differences between some chacoense and that has had my interest lately. Have you ever crossed the two of them Charles?
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As of yet, the only thing I've crossed with this shorter leafed Chiltepin type (the 2nd & 3rd pics) has been a 7 Pot Barrackpore.  Crossing a chiltepin with a chacoense might be fun...
Jeff H said:
Here is a couple of mine. 
 
 
Actually after looking at them again, they do look a lot like your second pic. The leaves were much rounder under the lights a few weeks ago. 
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These are very nice.  Is it a particular named Chiltepin (like Sonoran)?
 
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