misc Baby lady bugs?

TheFanMan · Feb 19, 2013

i found these guys on one of my pepper plants a day or 2 ago, there were all in a clump next to a lattice of white empty eggs. i THINK they are baby ladybugs, just thought id get a few more opinions in case they are not. If they are lady buys ill pop them back on my peppers.

since i found them some have got a lot bigger and changer to a darker color. (look at middle pic, orange guy is how they started, black guy is the bigger ones.)

Jamison · Feb 19, 2013

They look like them Asian beetles to me. Not a friend!

TheFanMan · Feb 19, 2013

Jamison said:
They look like them Asian beetles to me. Not a friend!

http://en.wikipedia....rmonia_axyridis
These guys?
They are the main variety of lady bugs we have in AUS, or else the ones we have look very similar.
apparently their diet is
Diet:

Both adults and larvae of Asian Multicolored Lady Beetles feed voraciously on aphids, mites, scale, and other soft-bodied insects. They also eat eggs of moths and butterflies.

sounds good to me?

Pr0digal_son · Feb 19, 2013

Stink bug. Kill the shite out of them! Ladybugs have yellow egg clusters.

Jamison · Feb 19, 2013

Your pic reminded me of these.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS-DdcSCJkGiep9dg99fLvJEDM7FjeFXAVUqCx_hRHvxmGj_i77

WalkGood · Feb 19, 2013

Jon, thanks for posting, bug identification posts are great to read and see, great learning. I see ladybugs visit my plants every now and then but I’ve never released them, these are in da wild. I have even witnessed them doing the pleasurable deed

Wish I had taken a pic but gone by time I was back. While I’ve never seen their eggs, I have seen some really small ones and they do not look like the bug/bugs you’ve posted. Personally I’ve never seen that bug and I’d rather not guess but looking forward to the final ID of it.

So far I've googled up every reply and the closest IMO is Jamison's, but I don't know ... good luck

smokemaster · Feb 19, 2013

Ladybug Pics - larva , and morphing into adults.
The don't go from eggs to ladybugs.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ladybug+larvae&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=X3AjUf_QEuGfiQLHgoD4Ag&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=653

There are pics also of them in the cacoon like/pupa stage when they go from larva to adults.

I'm pretty sure those aren't ladybugs.

Pr0digal_son · Feb 19, 2013

Antenna are way off for ladybug. stinkbugs will have a velvety white egg cluster like a honecomb.

Edit: Japanese beetle Jamison posted has a seperate head,and different antenna. They grow from grubs in the soil.

geeme · Feb 19, 2013

Yeah, not ladybugs. Here's a link to an image that illustrates their life cycle stages: http://www.emilydamstra.com/portfolio2.php?illid=804

You'll notice the eggs are rather football-shaped (U.S. football....) and they definitely do not come out of the eggs in the shape of adults.

Indiana_Jesse · Feb 19, 2013

As others have said, definitely without a doubt NOT ladybugs or any other kind of beetle. They are some kind of stinkbug, probably not a predatory kind either. Best to remove them.

Also, not to go off on a tangent, but what many call "Asian Beetles" (I saw them mentioned here) in the midwest U.S. are actually ladybugs too (Harmonia axyridis), just an introduced species with an obnoxious and pugnacious disposition.....still a predator though, despite what all the misinformation out there says.

TheFanMan · Feb 20, 2013

Pr0digal_son said:
Stink bug. Kill the shite out of them! Ladybugs have yellow egg clusters.

Glad i didn't leave them on my peppers, the yellow eggs is a good point, the eggs i found were white.

Jamison said:
Your pic reminded me of these.
https://encrypted-tb...Cx_hRHvxmGj_i77

don't know if we have those guys in my area

WalkGood said:
Jon, thanks for posting, bug identification posts are great to read and see, great learning. I see ladybugs visit my plants every now and then but I’ve never released them, these are in da wild. I have even witnessed them doing the pleasurable deed Wish I had taken a pic but gone by time I was back. While I’ve never seen their eggs, I have seen some really small ones and they do not look like the bug/bugs you’ve posted. Personally I’ve never seen that bug and I’d rather not guess but looking forward to the final ID of it.

So far I've googled up every reply and the closest IMO is Jamison's, but I don't know ... good luck

don't know if we have those guys

smokemaster said:
Ladybug Pics - larva , and morphing into adults.
The don't go from eggs to ladybugs.

https://www.google.c...iw=1024&bih=653

There are pics also of them in the cacoon like/pupa stage when they go from larva to adults.

I'm pretty sure those aren't ladybugs.

Don't think i have seen the younger stages, iv only seen adult ladybugs.

Pr0digal_son said:
Antenna are way off for ladybug. stinkbugs will have a velvety white egg cluster like a honecomb.

yeh, there was a velvety white egg cluster like a honecomb, thinking it might be stink bugs

geeme said:
Yeah, not ladybugs. Here's a link to an image that illustrates their life cycle stages: http://www.emilydams...2.php?illid=804

You'll notice the eggs are rather football-shaped (U.S. football....) and they definitely do not come out of the eggs in the shape of adults.

nice link, yep not ladybugs

Indiana_Jesse said:
As others have said, definitely without a doubt NOT ladybugs or any other kind of beetle. They are some kind of stinkbug, probably not a predatory kind either. Best to remove them.

sure looking that way

thanks for all the reply guys, looks like they are not ladybugs and probably some kind of bad bug. think ill leave them in their container and see what they turn into.