misc Couple of questions

Hi everyone,
 
Another quick question. 
 
I am moving into a commercial kitchen setup and was wondering what is a good alternative to Immersion Blending (we have a setup to commercial grade immersion blender but looking for something more consistent.)
 
Second question is what is the best way for getting rid of seeds and maintaining the pulp of the peppers? (this goes with the last question to some extent because it would be easier to get rid of seeds in a uniform sauce).
 
Thanks!
 
Regards,
Sean
 

salsalady

Business Member
Food mill, there are electric commercial units, to remove the seeds.

Then step up to a good food processor, in my opinion blendtec is the best for making a really smooth sauce. Yea, you have to do it in batches, but a boat motor can't compare.

Congrats and have fun. Keep us posted~
SL
 
salsalady said:
Food mill, there are electric commercial units, to remove the seeds.

Then step up to a good food processor, in my opinion blendtec is the best for making a really smooth sauce. Yea, you have to do it in batches, but a boat motor can't compare.

Congrats and have fun. Keep us posted~
SL
 
What is your recommended food mill?
 
When I used a blender last time it seemed to push too much air into the sauce. Is there a way to avoid that when using a blender?
 

The Hot Pepper

Founder
Admin
Try a different blade on the immersion blender. There are blades that aerate more than others (think whipped cream)... there should be a blade that looks more like what a blender actually has.
 
Also deseeding beforehand always works best, but I don't know how that works commercially.
 

salsalady

Business Member
It seems that more air gets into the sauce with the blender if the sauce is thicker.  It can be worked out.  We just ran into this issue at a recent Making Hot Sauce class I hosted.  We were running mostly de-seeded fresno chiles, onion, garlic and not much liquids.  Granted we were only dealing with 2 gallons, but we just used a wire whisk and stirred the snot out of it, eventually working out all the air, and ended up with a medium viscosity smooth sauce with no visible seeds.
 
There are support brackets to allow hands-free immersion blenders.  Might need to look at that, just make sure the blender can be turned on and left, you don't have to hold the button down.  Maybe a combination of blendering and working the air out with the boat motor.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/robot-coupe-27363-adjustable-immersion-blender-support-for-12-26-diameter-pans/64927363.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqPTA-J-R4QIVtR6tBh0AVgRREAQYASABEgLPP_D_BwE
 
 
I use the BlendTec all the time for pureeing onion, garlic, pear, mandarin oranges, peppers of all sorts, and usually don't have issues with too much air.  The BlendTec will make onions and raw peppers (with some liquid) an absolutely smooth mixture.  I just can't get that from ninja blender, food processors, or immersion blenders. 
 
Also, you may need to look at what order stuff is done in.  If you don't have a BlendTec, you can cook chunky ingredients, hit it with an immersion, then food mill to remove the seeds.  Maybe cook some of the ingredients with just a little bit of the liquids, blender or food mill (so your not having to batch 10 gallons through the blender), then back into the pot with the rest of the ingredients. 
 
From my experience, the food mill is good about removing seeds and tough skins, but the resulting pulp is still sort of...i don't know the word I'm looking for...maybe 'granular'? in that you can still see bits of pulp and it is not homogeneous.  I seem to only be able to get that really smooth sauce with the BlendTec.  
 
I use an old fashioned hand crank food mill, never used one of these electric ones.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/2905/food-mills.html?filter=power-type:electric
 
I have a reconditioned BlendTec Smoothie Maker with WildSide carafe.
 
hope it helps~
SL 
 

The Hot Pepper

Founder
Admin
Also any ingredients with lots of air in the cell walls will create air in the sauce if blended too early. That's why tomatoes in the blender create a froth. Peppers not so much. Bananas, never. Because of the density. It can depend on ingredients.
 

Sawyer

Extreme Member
You've gotten a lot of good responses while I was writing my own. There's some repetition here of what others have said. If there's any contradiction, go with what SL or THP have to say. That said, here's my response:

If you want to grind everything together, seeds included, a commercial food processor might work for you. Both Hobart and Robot Coupe make such things.

http://www.robot-coupe.com/en-usa/
https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/food-prep/food-processors

Both make high capacity floor models, too:
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/14245/commercial-food-processors.html?filter=capacity:20~63-qt.

However, it's possible none of those will grind the seeds as finely as you might want, not to mention any negative impact on flavor from the seeds. I've used a vertical grinder, that I can't recall the make right now, that would do the job, but it was such a pain to disassemble, clean, and sterilize before and after every use, that I started using a Robot Coupe immersion blender instead. One of these, I think: http://www.robot-coupe.com/en-usa/catalogue/turbo-range,143/mp-450-turbo-combi,22954/

That, of course, also won't necessarily grind the seeds as much as desired. I stem and seed a lot of the superhots I use by hand, but for high volume production or something like jalapeños, I cut them in half (one black-hearted pepper can ruin a whole batch of product), steam them to softness, then run them through an electric tomato finisher, variously called finishers, mills, squeezers.

https://omcan.com/product-category/food-equipment/food-equipment-tomato-squeezers/food-equipment-tomato-squeezers-electric-tomato-squeezers/

http://www.fabioleonardiusa.com

https://www.agrieuro.co.uk/new-omra-m-189.html

Several manufacturers make capable products. My advice is to get the biggest horsepower motor you can afford. The one I use is a discontinued model, but is similar to this one. https://omcan.com/product/heavy-duty-electric-tomato-squeezern-with-0-80-hp-motor/

I've only used it to remove the seeds from jalapeños, but it worked okay for that. I had to run the seed/pulp waste through a few times to minimize loss of pulp. After about the third or fourth time, it started shearing off little bits from the edges of the seeds that looked like tiny little worms in the pulp. Stopping the recycling one run through earlier got rid of that problem.

Somewhere I have the numbers for the pulp to waste ratio for the electric finisher vs. doing it by hand. Obviously, it's not as good as hand processed on that number alone, but when you factor in the time savings, it becomes a no-brainer in favor of the power tool.
 
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