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Don't touch my Bone
- Thread starter bentalphanerd
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EVIL FOOT OF DOOM!!
I'd be pissed off if my foot tried to steal my food too!
I'd be pissed off if my foot tried to steal my food too!
I've heard of split personalities but thats ridiculous....the way the foot tries to creep up...a surprise attack 
Its kinda sad that they are encouraging that kind of behavour in the dog, but awful funny!
looks to me like that foot is working involuntarily. I'm not sure what you mean by encouraging?
by watching and laughing.
Its not the foot thats the problem, its the aggressive guarding behaviour. Like if a child came and took the bone off the dog, it would probably rip its head off.
But hey, a little blood sport is good for everyone!
Its not the foot thats the problem, its the aggressive guarding behaviour. Like if a child came and took the bone off the dog, it would probably rip its head off.
But hey, a little blood sport is good for everyone!
Thats true, I didn't think of that. I figure it's the parents responsibility to train their kids to never try to take food away from a dog. My doberman is very placid & will ask permission before eating anything (not my doing, she came from the RSPCA like that)- I have taught my son & all the neighbourhood kids to never take food from any animal...along the same lines as sticking your hand on a stove.
lol
totally. its more toddlers that would be the problem.
I have 2 small RSPCA dogs too! a chihuahua and a mini foxy. they are CRAZY little bitches, but well behaved...
sometimes
totally. its more toddlers that would be the problem.
I have 2 small RSPCA dogs too! a chihuahua and a mini foxy. they are CRAZY little bitches, but well behaved...
sometimes
a chihuahua and a mini foxy 
I had to sign a waiver to get the dobie home (my boy was still in nappies) - but man, you are truly brave.
I had to sign a waiver to get the dobie home (my boy was still in nappies) - but man, you are truly brave.
fisting_mayfield said:
The behavior in questions appears to be a vacuum behavior and may not be expressed in normal interactions. Vacuum behaviors, to pull a definition out of my butt here, occur when instinctive behaviors or natural drives have no outlet for expression and are directed at other-than-normal objects or into inappropriate expressions. You sometimes hear of dogs that go through the motions of burying a bone, digging, then covering, on a bare kitchen floor.
I had a dog, Katie, who my neighbor called the "Vietnam dog" because he said she had flashbacks. She would stalk around a shrub, a potted plant, a Christmas tree; any kind of plant. One minute she would be perfectly normal, then her gaze would become very intense, and she would step slowly and carefully around the plant, like she was stalking her prey. Then she'd come out of it and be perfectly normal.
All that being said, I also hear more people say that they can't take food away from their own dog. They seem to think this is the natural order of things, but it's not, it's a training issue. I can put my hand in either of my dogs' mouths at any time, and take food or bones or treats away. They can growl at each other or the cats, but if I want it, it's mine. And you don't need to beat the dogs to teach 'em that.
What your dog does, Bent, is the way a lot of trainers recommend establishing leadership with a dog. Access to food is controlled by the hierarchy in a pack, and so by making the dog sit and wait to get its food, you establish that you're higher in the pack order then the dog. I suggest people with small children have the child (under adult supervision, of course) learn to feed the dog. It helps establish that the child is higher in the hierarchy, too, and might prevent other problems.
totaly. hence my original comment.
its easy to train that behavour out.. From memory you take the bone away, or their food pretty much straight away after you give it to them, then give them back something EVEN BETTER if they are a good boy/girl.
its easy to train that behavour out.. From memory you take the bone away, or their food pretty much straight away after you give it to them, then give them back something EVEN BETTER if they are a good boy/girl.
fisting_mayfield said:
Yes, but in this case, it may be a vacuum behavior that is only seen in this amusing way. It may not be a genuine resource protection issue. I wouldn't want to risk a small child on it, but vacuum behaviors are often not seen in regular interactions.
Making the dog sit and wait for its food until you say ok is what the trainers I've worked with recommend. I'm sure there are other ways, and working within the rescue community may have limited my exposures, though.
I would never allow a dog to growl at any human for taking something from it, food/treat or toy. let them know whos the master.
this dog has some issues if it perceives its own leg as a threat, whats to say it wont consider a kid a threat ?
this dog has some issues if it perceives its own leg as a threat, whats to say it wont consider a kid a threat ?
Sure, you should train your dog to not bite a child when it goes near its food...but then the child will think this works for all dogs.
I have no problem having my son feed the dog, but once you've said it's o.k for the dog to have it - thats it...the food then belongs to the dog.
Believe it or not you also have to tell kids that when a dog growls it means step away (and stop pulling their tail, poking them in the eye, pushing pencils into their ears lol
I have no problem having my son feed the dog, but once you've said it's o.k for the dog to have it - thats it...the food then belongs to the dog.
Believe it or not you also have to tell kids that when a dog growls it means step away (and stop pulling their tail, poking them in the eye, pushing pencils into their ears lol
bentalphanerd said:
You know, you could be a sadist and say that it means pull/poke/push harder, then post it up on youtube!
... sorry i'm bored
I'll just tack this one in here - great story.
December 13, 2007 07:10pm
TWO family dogs are being hailed as heroes after they saved a two-year-old boy from drowning in a dam at a property near Mackay yesterday morning.
Police said the dogs, a Rottweiler cross and a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, dragged the boy from the water after he had wandered on to a neighbouring property's dam.
The owner of the property had heard a noise about 11am and had run to the dam, which was about 100 m from the house.
The woman found the boy lying on the embankment of the dam covered in mud with the two dogs, usually thought of as aggressive breeds, by his side.
Police said there were drag marks from the waters edge to where the boy was lying and small scratches on his arms from the dog's claws.
"We are certain the dogs pulled him out of the dam," a police spokesman said.
"It is an amazing story."
The Queensland Ambulance Service said the mother and child were taken to Mackay Base Hospital as a precaution, and the child did not need CPR.
They were believed to recovering at home yesterday evening.
December 13, 2007 07:10pm
TWO family dogs are being hailed as heroes after they saved a two-year-old boy from drowning in a dam at a property near Mackay yesterday morning.
Police said the dogs, a Rottweiler cross and a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, dragged the boy from the water after he had wandered on to a neighbouring property's dam.
The owner of the property had heard a noise about 11am and had run to the dam, which was about 100 m from the house.
The woman found the boy lying on the embankment of the dam covered in mud with the two dogs, usually thought of as aggressive breeds, by his side.
Police said there were drag marks from the waters edge to where the boy was lying and small scratches on his arms from the dog's claws.
"We are certain the dogs pulled him out of the dam," a police spokesman said.
"It is an amazing story."
The Queensland Ambulance Service said the mother and child were taken to Mackay Base Hospital as a precaution, and the child did not need CPR.
They were believed to recovering at home yesterday evening.
Bent.... Wow. I can't get enough of these stories. Everything always points to the bad aspects of those breeds. Now, I have personally seen the good and bad of both Rots and Pits, but the good dogs far outweigh the bad.
I have a Chow-Chow. They don't generally have good reputations, but both (one is deceased) of my dogs have been branded, "The Most Behaved Dogs" of everyone who has stepped foot in my home. The only time they ever growl is for play, or to tell someone new that this is his house, so you better behave.....or when we're not home. ...and may the Gods help you if we're not home.
I have a Chow-Chow. They don't generally have good reputations, but both (one is deceased) of my dogs have been branded, "The Most Behaved Dogs" of everyone who has stepped foot in my home. The only time they ever growl is for play, or to tell someone new that this is his house, so you better behave.....or when we're not home. ...and may the Gods help you if we're not home.
DevilDuck said:
No they don't. Pit bulls more than Rottweilers, but most of the bad doesn't make the news. You can point a finger at the breeders who irresponsibly breed dogs for a low trigger and aggression, but the dogs are still unpredictable. You don't hear about the thousands of dogs or cats they kill and maim. They're generally good dogs...unless something triggers their prey drive, then its all over but the weeping. And it is impossible to predict what will trigger their prey drive. Even AKC breeders of pit bulls whose dogs will never come close to a fighting pit test for their trigger, or at least in the early ninties they did. A dog that triggered faster was coinsidered a better pit bull.
I know it's trendy to say "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners", but it's just not true. I don't blame the dogs, it's what they were bred for, but I'd never trust a pit bull, and I'd look long and hard at a Rottie.
The problem with Chows is different, they're intensely bonded with their family, and they don't really give a hoot about the rest of the world. My lab mix is big and loud, when she barks she sounds like she'd rip your leg off if you set foot in her yard. Anybody with a lick of dog sense could sweet talk her, though, and she'd invite 'em in the house for more belly rubbing. Just try and sweet talk a Chow!
Dogs are like kids. Responsible and caring owners or parents instill good behavior and set limits. But that dog is just completely f*cked in the head. Shoot it up with prozac or just shoot it.