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grocery store pepper id

so, i am not looking for an exact id, most bulk store peppers may have some hybrid in them.
 
i picked these guys up today because of their shape and being in the orange hab bin thought i would see how they fair - there were others with this shape and many orange hab shaped. the flavour is mild orange hab but definitely chinense flavouring. flesh heat is jalapeno hot. flesh with placenta is cayenne hot. not really sweet, more towards the bitter aspect of an orange hab. if you like orange hab but not their heat, this guy would be a good fit.
 
would anyone like to guess as to what they most resemble?
 

 

 

 
 
 
Trinidad Perfume was also my first thought. Here's a pic (4th one down) of a harvest a couple years ago. The yellow ones on the step and in the bowl are the Trin Perfs. Trin Perfs range from yellow to yellow-orange, so that could be what you have even though they're not so yellow. If they're mild (though some might surprise you) and very aromatic, they may well at least have Trin Perf in them.

One more thing - I really don't care for the taste of Trin Perfs raw, but I absolutely love them candied.
 
geeme said:
Trinidad Perfume was also my first thought. Here's a pic (4th one down) of a harvest a couple years ago. The yellow ones on the step and in the bowl are the Trin Perfs. Trin Perfs range from yellow to yellow-orange, so that could be what you have even though they're not so yellow. If they're mild (though some might surprise you) and very aromatic, they may well at least have Trin Perf in them.

One more thing - I really don't care for the taste of Trin Perfs raw, but I absolutely love them candied.
Trin perfs taste good candied? A redeeming factor then. And yeah, I've seen some trin perf be a ton hotter than it should be.
 
when i first saw them, i thought perhaps an orange hab X yellow bonnet, so i had to try it. no bonnet aroma or taste not even a hint. so i ruled that out.
 
i can say if these peppers came in the same box that the orange habs came in, the produce clerks are just to mix them in the "mixed peppers" box. last week it did have yellow bonnets in the same box again mixed with orange habs. but this is the first time i have seen the shape.
 
so how would you describe the flavour of the trinidad perfume? i would guess it has a chinense undertone. this pepper just tastes like a mild orange hab.
 
a couple of years ago i found some yellow scotch bonnet pods that looked like yellow 7 pots, they tasted like bonnets. i saved the seeds and grew them out. the pods did not resemble a 7 pod but reverted back to an unshapely yellow bonnet.
 
so if i save these seeds and grow them out, what do you think i should call them? 
 
Picked up some chilles from market the other day and they look similar to the ones you have. I also saw a bunch that had the same shape as the ones in your pics. They were labled Habaneros. Got 158 seeds out of both pods.

Here's a pic of the ones I picked up.

 
I've found chiles that looked like that at an international market here that mixes tons of different peppers in packages that say habaneros. I thought they might be Scotch bonnets. If not, I'm guessing an orange hab crossed with a SB or another pepper. Mine tasted sweeter than a habanero. They tasted pretty good. The heat was a lot less like the OP described.
 
Seems like some commercialized caribbean variety to me too. There could be any number of gene's in there, some mild seasoning pepper type, or scotch bonnet, Trinidad Perfume, etc etc.
 
Since mild Chinense types are somewhat uncommon, i'd hold onto a bunch of seed. I suppose you could name them after the store you bought them from.
 
The flavor profile may not be everyone's preference, but I'd say you have an overall winner on your hands. Sounds like a good way of getting some Chinense aroma into a salsa without all of the heat.
 
They look like the peppers my local grocer keeps in stock throughout the year. Sometimes they are labeled habanero and sometimes they are labeled scotch bonnet. Most likely, they are just heavily mutated orange habaneros grown commercially in Mexico. This same grocer I speak of frequently labels cherry peppers and fresnos as red hot chili peppers. I tell my wife to ignore the labels, as the grocer sells orange habs, cherry peppers, and fresnos.
 
Looks like a Trinidad perfume to me too except more orange. Trinidad perfumes taste much like a heat-less habanero imo, except maybe not as 'tart'. This pepper sounds like something my wife would love, any chance I could get some seeds from you?
 
thanks for looking into this further Steve. the aji dulce seems to have a lot of variations, did a google and viewed images.
 
i planted 4 seeds, so first is to see if the seeds are viable, second is to see if the plant grows true and delivers the same type of pods. proving if it is just a hybrid meant for 1 season. who knows maybe i will end up with a blocky orange hab or a red aji deluce or some sort of trinidad perfume.
 
last year i found yellow scotch bonnet pods that strongly resembled yellow 7 pots, i grew them out and the pods looked nothing like the parent. but what a strong plant, they must have been bred to be extremely hardy and for production versus pod shape. where all my other over wintered plants are sticks with no leaves, these are full of leaves.
 
Burning Colon said:
so, i am not looking for an exact id, most bulk store peppers may have some hybrid in them.
 
i picked these guys up today because of their shape and being in the orange hab bin thought i would see how they fair - there were others with this shape and many orange hab shaped. the flavour is mild orange hab but definitely chinense flavouring. flesh heat is jalapeno hot. flesh with placenta is cayenne hot. not really sweet, more towards the bitter aspect of an orange hab. if you like orange hab but not their heat, this guy would be a good fit.
 
would anyone like to guess as to what they most resemble?
 

 

 

 
 
 
Just to throw in another guess, they look very similar to my Jamaican Mushroom/Squash peppers, as well.
 
DeadLegs said:
 
Just to throw in another guess, they look very similar to my Jamaican Mushroom/Squash peppers, as well.
I do see the resemblance.
 
If i'm not mistaken, the jamaican mushroom / squash pepper is an annuum type with a larger calyx (stem base) and would not have a chinense smell or taste.
 
I think there may be a chinense one with a similar sounding name though (?)
 
Jetchuka said:
I do see the resemblance.
 
If i'm not mistaken, the jamaican mushroom / squash pepper is an annuum type with a larger calyx (stem base) and would not have a chinense smell or taste.
 
I think there may be a chinense one with a similar sounding name though (?)
No, the Jamaican Mushroom/Squash pepper is a Chinense variety.
 
thanks to all reviewing this thread. at first i considered the jamaican mushroom, first search demonstrated pods with no bubble at the stem but of course, i couldn't stop there and view every possible image on google images and some had a bulb at the stem. then, first research shows jamaican being yellow, follow up searches produced orange pods as well.
 
i read the conflicting reports of annuum versus chinense and it goes way back, even on this forum.
 
these pods do taste like a mild orange hab.
 
i have 4 seedlings now and will monitor them and as they get larger will post an update on their progress and you can decide if they resemble annuum or chinese. that said, all the orange habs i have grown have never had the large fat leaves of say a scorpion or 7 pot.
 
Burning Colon said:
so if i save these seeds and grow them out, what do you think i should call them?
If you grow the seeds out post photos of the resulting plants.

DeadLegs said:
No, the Jamaican Mushroom/Squash pepper is a Chinense variety.
The name Jamaican Mushroom/Squash is a name used to refer to a variant of Capsicum annuum.

There was a supplier that I noticed some time ago that incorrectly listed C. annuum Jamaican Mushroom as C. chinense. It was identifiable as C. annuum from photos against the listing.

The plant I can in a photo you posted back in 2012 has C. Annuum traits.
 
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