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hydroponic Hydroponic pepper solution?

Hey all,

I'm having a tough go of it here in Montana, and am strongly considering picking up some HPS lighting and moving everything indoors (or rather, restarting). Because of this, and the fact that my friend works for a water treatment company, I'm kicking around the idea of building a hydroponic system.

Are there any particular advantages to any one system beyond space consumption? That's to say, if I built an aeroponic PVC setup like the ones commonly seen online, would growth or yield exceed that of say a simple DWC?

(edited for grammar, usage; SWE anal retentive here).
 
I had a small system a long time ago and it did a lot better than soil. The problem with that here in CA cost of running a 400-1000 watt HID light was around $30+ a month. The plants eventually got so big I could only keep 2. I read a ton of info and the best info I found was on Maximum Yield website. It's not just the hydro and ferts with an indoor grow it's the lighting, heat, cooling, air exchange, temp and a few other variables you need to understand to get a good crop.

Do a search for hydro some guys here have some great setups and their is a ton of info on how to do it right the first time.

GL
 
DWC is pretty fool-resistant and has low entry costs.
Aeroponics grows stuff more quickly but has higher first costs
 
Thanks, guys. One positive is that the landlord pays electricity, though I'll probably toss him a few bucks if I go HID. I'll take a look at that website and do some reading. One thing I'm curious about: when you went hydro, what did you start your seeds in? Rockwool? I've heard that little peat pods are notorious for chewing through chile seeds.
 
I haven't had real sucess with the Groton Plugs, but I have had real good sucess with Rapid Rooters, you have to be careful not to let them dry out.

I want to try Oasis cubes next year. They are supposed to be made with potato starch, and are biodegradeble from what I have heard(as opposed to actually reading).
 
Ok...wtf: http://missoula.craigslist.org/grd/2468657175.html

I'm intrigued, but I don't want to buy it if it's junk. Googling it reveals a paucity of information; it looks like it's been discontinued for several years, and the website advertising it is dated 1999 :). Thoughts?
 
Ok...wtf: http://missoula.craigslist.org/grd/2468657175.html

I'm intrigued, but I don't want to buy it if it's junk. Googling it reveals a paucity of information; it looks like it's been discontinued for several years, and the website advertising it is dated 1999 :). Thoughts?
Looks like a nice vertical grower...But I wonder how big those pots are?
Do some research on the aero systems alot of times you have to add a chiller to your reservoir to cool the nutrient solution.
 
Ok...wtf: http://missoula.crai...2468657175.html

I'm intrigued, but I don't want to buy it if it's junk. Googling it reveals a paucity of information; it looks like it's been discontinued for several years, and the website advertising it is dated 1999 :). Thoughts?


I don't remember the name of the company but there are several similar products to this. One is vacuformed and stacks, another is vacuformed and is mounted on a central column, and a new on I saw at the local hydro store that is made of styrofoam and mounts on a central column.
 
I shot her a text to see if the pump still works; if nothing else, I could put strawberries in it.

Another thing I've been looking at is Bubbleponics. It's basically a DWC with little tubes going up into the media (? still learning the jargon) to ensure that the inner roots receive nutrient solution (by the way, use of the term 'solution' in the title of this post was totally accidental; I can't take credit for the horrid pun). It's used by potheads to grow cannabis, but am I correct in assuming that the principle would work just as well with peppers? I ask because while I'm normally skeptical, the pothead community seems to regard this as nothing short of amazing, and they're a motivated community of gardeners if nothing else.
 
Interesting: my friend just offered to get me anything I wanted at wholesale cost from this distributor: http://catalog.northwestpipe.net/

Everything seems to be a little bit excessive for my aspirations, but I'm sure the PVC at least could be used. If anyone is curious and sees something interesting, give me a heads up and I'll take a look! Building a custom hydro setup would be fun, and get me through the Montana winters with slightly less SADD.

Edit: to be clear, I've already browsed through the catalog several times, and will doubtless do so again. I just wanted to disclaim the appearance that I'm a lazy punk :).
 
you have lots of options to choose from, i built my dwc out of stuff that i had laying around the house. don't do the tower thing, i think any pictures you see with plants in the tower are most likely some form of annual, like lettuce and die after awhile - thus you are replacing with fresh seedlings every so often. your peppers are perennial and will live for quite awhile depending on variety and you really have to provide the proper space for rooting. plus, in the tower solution a pump pushes the nutrient water up to the plant, then flows back down into the resevoir, one nasty snow storm that knocks power out and you better be home to hand water your plants or the roots will dryout and the plant will die. using a bubble system your nutrient tank remains in place with only evapouration as means of removing water(barring any leaks), once your roots push into the nutrient solution, if your air pump dies or power goes out, the roots are still feeding the plant.

i use cheap lighting because i don't have the setup to install a proper overhead arrangement. i am working on that. i also use rockwool and the holders(cups) are small recycled yogurt cups.

all plants were started in a heated germination mini greenhouse that you can buy at walmart. once rooting was established, i moved the plants into rockwool that i soaked for a few hours. then, fed the plant so a piece of the root exited the cup and just touched the water. at first i had the air pump on constantly but now i have in on a timer and it runs 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours in the evening. the real key is to get the rooting system to take, if that doesn't happen you won't see good growth. i have had to use rooting hormone on some of the plants due to poor rooting development(perhaps i moved them from germination too soon).

you are directly below me by about a 6 hour drive, i am guessing, so imagine we share similar weather, there is no need to cool your water resevoir.

here is a quick snapshot of my system. all the plants are of various ages. most are chinense hotties. on the right hand side of the picture are 2, 1.5 litre mayonaise plastic tubs that are being feed by a 10 gallon air pump with splitter. the plants are rocoto(front), fatalii(back), both are about 10" in height. on the left hand side are 2 small totes that i converted, each has room for 8 plants. as you can see i have to move some of the larger ones to soil as the over shadow the other plants, once their rooting system gets established. these 2 buckets are being feed by a 80 gallon dual output air pump($20), that i did buy recently when i moved the fatalii and rocoto out of these buckets. the middle bucket has a yellow scorpian back left and dorset naga back right. the middle mess has butchT, bombay morich, yellow bhut and a superchili(that i move from soil into hydro). front left is an indian carbon bhut and right is a chocolate bhut. the left bucket has a douglah at the back and chocolate habanero. in the centre is a small datil(that i moved from soil) and it shares the same cup with a scotch bonnet, another bombay morich and another datil. front are yellow 7, barackpore(covered with a fruit cup) and bonda ma jacques.

think i covered everything. oh, nutrient solution is a mix of stuff but the core is granular tomato fertilizer(15-15-30).

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Thanks, guys. One positive is that the landlord pays electricity, though I'll probably toss him a few bucks if I go HID. I'll take a look at that website and do some reading. One thing I'm curious about: when you went hydro, what did you start your seeds in? Rockwool? I've heard that little peat pods are notorious for chewing through chile seeds.


Rockwool works:

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dont use the pre made hole.
Flip it over and...
Use a wire coat hanger and pudh the seed in
Also do this when i take clones makes a tighter seal
Rook wool is the shiz
 
I use a drip system with two linked reserviours and a planter on each.
I start in rockwool, then use Hydrotron balls as medium.
It's easy, effective and cheap.
 
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