wanted Looking for a nice seed sampler to grow in Florida

solid7

solid7

Looking for seeds.  I'm willing to pay for what you have, but I'm relatively new, and want something that meets a few simple criteria:
 
1) Must grow well in Florida.  Super high UV Index, high heat/humidity.  Oh, and I live on the beach, so I'm in a saline environment.  My patio is screened, and can be partially shade, if need be.
 
2) Must be something that I can't pick up at the produce stand.  Prefer no regular jalapeno/habanero varieties.
 
3) I like hots and super hots, but they must have good flavor.  I don't have a real broad exposure, so this is my chance to open new doors.

I'm just starting container growing, so I'd prefer somewhat easy to grow varieties.  But I'm up for a challenge - that's what forums are for, right?  I'm relying on the kindness of strangers, so I won't be too picky.  If you have surplus seeds, and want to sell relatively cheaply to help out a newbie, I'd be ever so grateful.
 
Thank you in advance.
 
I still have half of a "Volcano in a Box" from Pepper Joe that I am willing to sell for $25. That includes free shipping and a tracking number. There should be at least 5 seeds left in each variety except for the Naga Morich which only has two seeds left. I'll throw a little something extra in the package to make up for it. If you are interested let me know and I'll check to make sure that they all have at least 5 still left before I send them to you. Check out my glog that is documenting the experience with the Volcano in a Box.
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/43561-volcano-in-a-box/?hl=volcano

The varieties include:
Yellow Bhut 
Carolina Reaper 
Trinidad Scorpion 
Naga Morich 
Red Bhut 
Chaguana 
Red Moruga 
Butch T Trinidad Scorpion 
Giant Ghost 
Orange Scotch Bonnet 

solid7 said:
Looking for seeds.  I'm willing to pay for what you have, but I'm relatively new, and want something that meets a few simple criteria:
 
1) Must grow well in Florida.  Super high UV Index, high heat/humidity.  Oh, and I live on the beach, so I'm in a saline environment.  My patio is screened, and can be partially shade, if need be.
 
2) Must be something that I can't pick up at the produce stand.  Prefer no regular jalapeno/habanero varieties.
 
3) I like hots and super hots, but they must have good flavor.  I don't have a real broad exposure, so this is my chance to open new doors.
I'm just starting container growing, so I'd prefer somewhat easy to grow varieties.  But I'm up for a challenge - that's what forums are for, right?  I'm relying on the kindness of strangers, so I won't be too picky.  If you have surplus seeds, and want to sell relatively cheaply to help out a newbie, I'd be ever so grateful.
 
Thank you in advance.
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Jamison said:
Do some research and order seeds from a vendor like everyone else does.  
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Wow. It seems like there always has to be the one that just can't resist posting a response like that. Feel better now?
 
Well you are relatively new here to throw out a list of what you would be willing to receive from folks. And coming across a little snarky won't endear you to folks. There are a lot of great people in here as well as wonderful vendors.
Check out ajijoe and pepperlover for seeds. Great varieties and service.
Good luck.
 
I made the post with some pretty specific criteria, so as to fast track the pepper growing, rather than spending months in R&D mode. You'll have to forgive me for foolishly thinking that it might be a reasonable request. I didn't realize that the general sentiment around here was that of the person whom I replied to.

So that I don't make the same mistake in the future - is, or is not, the intention of a forum, to allow a person to draw upon collective knowledge, and avoid the errors commonly associated with a lack of knowledge? (or otherwise promote the collective knowledge)

To make this a little more clear... I didn't ask for anything too vague. I'm looking for varieties that do well in my particular growing zone, as we have some unique challenges. I don't have a broad exposure to different pepper varieties, so I - on good faith - reached out to this community, hoping to lean on those that have gone before me. I'm sure, as you say, there are some really great people on this forum. However, seeing that I already know what I don't know, all that I am asking for, is either a helpful, polite reply, or just a non-response. There are some very knowledge people here, but it is sometimes helpful to remember that everything is easy when you know how. This is my starting point.

Thanks to those who have replied positively.
 
Asking for knowledge is one thing and is widely accepted and promoted here. All I was saying was maybe a better approach would have been to ask a question, like "What superhots grow best im y climate which is in zone x, with temps at y and near the ocean?" Or something of the sort. The great people of this forum would have jumped in in a heart beat and let you know, likely even offering seeds without you asking. After you get the information, then asking for specific seeds becomes less problematic. Research here doesn't take months. And some people get a little peeved when new people to the forum jump in and ask for stuff, so showing interest in another part of the forum such as the growing section, gets you some credibility, not just asking for stuff. I am also aware you offered to pay, but in my opinion if you are going to pay anyway, get from a vendor who is reputable.
I am always glad to see new members and wish you the warmest welcome and happy stay. At least for me I am not upset you asked, just maybe a better way to ask ;)
Now, have you tried datil? I know they are native to fla but not sure if from the whole state or just a specific part.
 
No, I haven had time to dig into the reply yet. But again, to clear up any misunderstandings, I do want to thank you for taking the time to reply, and I will definitely be doing a follow up on your advice.
 
There are some very active THP members in Florida so it might be good as well to post in growing section regarding your conditions. In my opinion your better off looking into what you really want to grow and see if there are any issues as apposed to growing what others might tell you to.
 
Welcome aboard and best of luck
 
+1 on datil and those vendors
 
Datil's don't do well in the southern half of FL. I lived in Tampa for many years and couldn't get a good datil plant to save my life.

Bhut's do extreamly well as do anything from the caribbean.

My grow list from Tampa consisted of Trinidad Scorpions, Bhut Jolokia's, Naga Morich, a couple Habaneros, Jalapeno's, and some Pepperoncini's.

I didn't have a whole lot of luck growing much else in the way of peppers while I was down there.
 
A lot of salt isn't going to be great on pepper plants, but using tap water and keeping them out of the spray would be a lot better. I'm growing 18 types of hot peppers here in Lakeland and don't have any special problems with any of the types I grow. If you are ever this direction, I can teach you more in an hour or so than you will learn by trial and error over a couple of years' time. If you just want to try a couple of plants, I've got 1 gallon and 3 gallon plants that are already producing, for sale, but also, the way I got started 5 or 6 years ago, there is a guy right near you in Melbourne that sells decent sized ghost pepper plants. He has a website. Search ghost pepper, greenhouse growers, and Melbourne, and it should show up. My place is seriously hot peppers. Tom
 
Welcome aboard THP.
 
There`s been quite a rash of first/very early posts wanting and expecting free stuff recently, so people are getting a bit prickly about it. I realize you didn`t do that and offered to pay for seeds, so try to shake it off and move on. You`ll actually like it here at THP and 99.9% of people are great. Jamison is one of those great ones and he is incredibly generous. 
 
As for your climate, it`s a bit specialized being very close to the ocean. As Tom says (Cycadjungle) lots of salt isn`t a friend to peppers, but you can get around it to a large extent. If you haven`t already, get some shade cloth to take the sting out of your high UV. 50% shade cloth is probably good. 
 
I too would recommend Bhut Jolokia, as well as Naga Morich, Trinidad Scorpions, Trinidad Congo, Fatalii  plants. It`s just easier to learn how your environment affects things with plants. It`s more expensive, of course. It`s also a bit late in the year to start seeds in Florida. Most people I know down there start them in November, so the plants are doing well before the summer heat hits. 
 
Tom`s suggestion for a vendor was way beyond my knowledge, but there are a number of vendors who mail order all sorts of pepper plants and do it very well. 
 
I`ve had good luck with plants from the following, in no particular order.
 
Refining Fire Chiles, http://www.superhotchiles.com
 
Ford`s Fiery Foods and Plants, http://www.fordsfieryfoodsandplants.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart
 
Cross Country Nurseries, https://www.chileplants.com
Oh and for seeds look no further than www.pepperlover.com. 
 
Thanks for your answers, guys.  I will PM both of you shortly...

I water everything with water collected from rainwater, and do a weekly compost tea foliar spray, (during non-sunlight hours) at the moment.  Hopefully, the salt won't be too much of a problem.
 
I looked up the website, it is Green earth Co. I suggested him because he lives about 10 minutes from solid 7. It is good that you are using rain water. I have a plant friend that lives about 10 minutes up the beach that uses well water and many of his cycads are suffering from salt in the well water. The sun here is not a big deal. You just need to shade a bit. That can be sitting under the edge of a shade tree, growing them on the east side of the house, where it hides the afternoon sun, or all kinds of other things. I grew a batch of 65 moruga plants this last year between two clumps of Buddha belly bamboo. I'm growing some of the plants in greenhouses during the year and all of them are in greenhouses all winter. The leaves are looking nice and dark green in the one with 65% shade cloth, but they still produce fine in 50% and even 30%. Keeping them warm really extends the production time. Once it starts cooling down in November where we are seeing 60s, the red peppers don't turn color very well. Just keeping one end of the greenhouse closed up holds enough extra heat that November can be one of the best production months, because the plants are so big. The main thing I found about growing peppers in this part of Florida is that they do better being watered every morning. Growing them organically works well, but I have noticed that when you have about 200 peppers on a plant at the same time, I noticed that the plants would turn off color, but then as soon as you pick the peppers, the new growth you get after that comes out dark green again. Using 360 Nutricote in the pots feeds them evenly all year and the plants keep a nice dark green color, even with lots of peppers on the plants. I'm growing all of mine in 7 gallon containers.
I also agree that for this time of year, it helps to get some plants. Start with seeds now and you probably won't be picking anything of color until later in August.
For me, the best tasting supers are primos and red brain strains. For lots of pods on small plants red fataliis do well, but the best seems to be naga morich. They are already covered with flowers and can put on 100 to 250 pods at one time on a decent sized plant. Keep in mind, still in a 7 gallon. Tom
 
I talked to Ted at Green Earth a couple of days ago. Right now, he is only offering Bhut Jolokia for sale, but I'll probably go meet him this weekend, since he's a local grower.
 
Just an update...  Unrelated to this thread, somebody local gave me 2 varieties.  The first was a 'wiri wiri', and the second is a 'Carolina Reaper'.  I like the wiri wiri, (tasted them once) but I'm not so sure about this Carolina Reaper.  In addition, I had some seeds that were given to me last year, which I know to be Fatalii 'Jigsaw'.
 
I got a lot of behind the scenes responses, to which I am grateful for all.  To those whom I promised follow-ups, I will be in touch.
Thank you for reading and sticking with me despite the initial 'bump' in the road!
 
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