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Sawyer '15 - Killing frost 11/22 + pics

Edit 03/09/15 - This OP was such a mess with multiple lists, Old Seed, New Seed, Saved Seed, Gifted Seed, etc., I'm redoing almost the whole post.  All of the lists have been merged into a single mega-list.  I am actually trying to grow at least two or three plants of almost everything on this list.  For those marked with a leading (x), I am currently out of stock of seed (though may have OW plants).  Those marked with a leading "*" are not currently planned to be grown in 2015.  Trailing numbers refer to the seed source, keyed at the bottom of the list.  The sourcing information is currently incomplete.  Many varieties I had linked to descriptions, but the formatting didn't survive the copy/paste.  I'll try to fix that at some point.  I also tried to arrange this list into 3 columns, but couldn't figure out how to do it here.
 
7 Pots:
*(x)Barrackpore
Barrackpore Chocolate(3)
Brain Strain Yellow(1,11)
(x)Brain Strain Red
*Brown Standard(1,11)
Brown Standard G3
*Brown Long
Brown Long G3
Burgundy
Caramel F2
Congo SR Gigantic
Douglah(1,11)
Jonah G2
Large Red
Mustard F2
*"not Red" (a serrano-/Inca Red Drop-shaped "not")
Original Red(11)
Peach F2
Primo(1,11)
Primo Yellow(13)
Red(1,12)
Red Long(9)
Yellow(12)
*(x)Yellow Large
Yellow Long(9)
White(1,3,11)

Trinidad Scorpions:
Butch T
CARDI(11)
Chocolate(6)
Moruga Brown(1,11)
Moruga Caramel(11)
Moruga Chocolate(15)
Moruga Red
Moruga Yellow(1,5,11)
*Moruga/Moruga Blend Yellow(12)
Red(12)
Sweet(3)
*Yellow(1(iso),11)
Yellow Original G2

Jolokias/Nagas:
Assam(12)
Banana Bhut F2
*BJ Brown G2
BJ Brown G3
BJ Giant(8)
BJ Orange
BJ Peach(11)
*(x)BJ Purple
BJ Red(1,11)
BJ White(11)
*BJ Yellow(11,12)
BJ Yellow G3
Black Naga(1,8)
BOC(3)
*(x)Naga King
Naga King Orange(15)
Naga Morich(12)
"not white" Yellow Bhut

Crosses/Mutations:
Arkansas Peach F2
Arkansas Reaper F3
Brown Bhutlah(15)
Bubblegum(3)
Carolina Reaper(1,6,7,14,16)
*(x)D'Bhut (7P Douglah x BJ)
Devils Brain(11)
Elysium Oxide Bonnet(1,4)
Jay's Peach Ghost Scorpion(1,3)
Jay's Red Ghost Scorpion
FG Jigsaw
Funky Reaper(7)
*Goat's Weed x Romy Mystery(?)
Madballz(1,3)
Nagabrain Chocolate F3 (9)
Peach Pheno(3)
Pimenta Lisa F3(9)
Red Bhutlah(15)
*(x)Sepia Serpent
*Long Smooth Red (spicy banana)

Bonnets/Habaneros:
Bahamian Goat(1,3)
Bonda Ma Jacques(1,3)
Brown SB
Brown Congo
Giant White Hab(11)
JA Hot Choc Hab
Large Yellow-orange Hab (not GWH)
Lemon Habanero
Long Brown
MoA SB G2 (1,18)
*(x)Orange Hab
Paper Lantern Hab(15)
Red Hab(11,15)
*(x)Snow White
Trinidad Congo Red(11)
*(x)Yellow Hab
*(x)White Bullet Hab

C. baccatums:
Aji Amarillo(14)
Aji Mango(11)
Birgit's Locoto(15)
Bishop's Crown (3)
(x)Blonde(3)
Brazilian Starfish(11)
Orchid(11)
Red Pumpkin(11)

C. pubescens:
*(x)Manzano Amarillo
*(x)Orange Manzano (2 types)
*(x)Orange Locoto
(x)Red Manzano
(x)Yellow Manzano
*Giant Mexican Rocoto(11)

Other C. chinenses:
Brown Egg(3)
Charapita
Datil
Fatalii Black(13)
Fatalii Cream(15)
Fatalii White(8,13)
*(x)Fatalii Yellow
Flaming Icicle(15)
Georgia Black(3)
Grenada Seasoning Yellow(15)
Mako Akokasrade
Malaysian Goronong(15)
Murupi Amarela(9)
Pimenta de Neyde(1,11)
Star of Turkey(11)
Tobago Treasure Red(1,3)
Tobago Treasure Yellow(11)
Tobago Treasure White(9)
Trinidad Cherry(3)
Trinidad Seasoning
White Devil's Tongue (1,3)

Jalapeños:
Ciclón, Colima, Tajin (mixed F2 seed)
Cracked(11)
Early(1,11,15)
Farmer's(11)
Jaloro(15)
M(15)
Orange(15)
Pinata(1,10)
Purple(15)
TAM(15)
Tormenta(9)

New Mexico:
64L(15)
*(x)Chimayo
Joe E. Parker(15)
Heritage Big Jim G2
Heritage 6-4(1,10)
Sandia(15)
Santa Fe Grande(15)

Sweet annuums:
Bull's Heart(11)
Chocolate Beauty(15)
Corno di Toro(15)
Corno di Toro, Orange(15)
Corno di Toro, Yellow(15)
Jimmy Nardello(15)
Kurtovska Kapija(20)
Marconi Golden(6)
Marconi Red(6)
Paradicsom Alaku Sarga Szentes(6)
Sulu Adana(11)
Syrian Three Sided(6)
Sweet Pickles(11)
Tekne Dolmasi(11)
Yellow Monster(6)

Ornamentals:
Aurora(15)
Black Pearl(15)
Chinese Five-Color(15)
Explosive Ember(15)
Golden Nugget(15)
Marbles(15)
NuMex Twilight(19)
Prairie Fire(15)
Purple Flash(15)

Other C. annuums:
Albanian Red Hot
Alma Paprika
*(x)Amarillo Chiltepin
Black Hungarian(6)
Caloro(15)
Çumra Cherry(11)
Devil Serrano(9)
*(x)Fish
Goat's Weed(11)
Hungarian Hot Cherry(3)
Large Red Hot Cherry(1,11)
Long Red Slim(16)
Mulato Isleno(15)
Padron(19)
Paprika(15)
Pasilla Bajio(6)
Pimiento de Padron(6)
Puya(15)
Takanotsume/Hawk Claw(16,17)
Tepin
Urfa Biber(20)

Special Projects:
MFPJ3(9)
MFPJ15(9)
MFPJ28(9)
MFPJ30(9)

Sources:
(1) - Self-saved (as are all otherwise unmarked entries)
(2) - PaulG
(3) - GA. Growhead
(4) - capsidadburn
(5) - PepperLover
(6) - Baker Creek
(7) - Devv
(8) - gnslngr
(9) - meatfreak
(10) - CPI
(11) - PL
(12) - MGOLD86
(13) - jcw10tc
(14) - RFC
(15) - TWF
(16) - Pepper Joe
(17) - DesertChris
(18) - Steve954
(19) - JSS
(20) - stickman
 
Though I only planted out fewer than a third of the seedlings I started last year, I did manage to keep almost all of the remaining 600+ unplanted ones alive all year, in the original germination flats, root-bound, stunted, unhappy, often standing in water for days at a time, but alive nonetheless.  My plan was to bring them in and overwinter them this winter in the south room intermediate (between germination and plant-out) plant stand.  This would significantly reduce my seed-starting requirements for this season.  Alas, within two or three days of bringing them in, some critter (I assume a rat, it's almost always a rat) found it's way into the room and mowed them all down.  I'd also brought in a white cherry tomato and 5 or 6 Manzanos in 3-gal pots.  It got them, too, including all the pods on one of the Manzanos I was hoping would ripen inside.  The tomato subsequently died, as did 2 or 3 of the Manzanos.  Two or three of them are hanging on.  It also killed one of my most prized house plants.  After tripping a trap twice without getting caught, and then becoming wary, I finally put out poison.  I hated doing it, one, because it seems cruel, but also because I have foxes, owls and hawks around here and I'd hate to secondarily poison one of them.  (I'm hoping it died under the house and will desiccate before things warm up in the spring.)   In any case, the problem seems resolved for now.
 
After that happened, I was so down about it all, I didn't keep up with the watering and while many of the seedlings tried to sprout out and recover, I let them dry out and that is what finally killed them.  Still, I have managed to keep a few alive, so if I can continue to keep them alive, I have these to start with this year, in no particular order (number of plants in parentheses):
OWs:
Primo (2)
7 Pot Peach (3)
7 Pot Brown Naga-type (3)
BJ Orange (2)
Brainstrain Red (7)
TS Yellow (5)
7 Pot Brown Best (5)
Large Yellow-orange Hab/Not GWH (4)
SB Brown (3)
7 Pot Brown Long Congo-type (5)
7 Pot Red (1)
Chocolate Barrackpore (6)
Peach Cross (3)
TS Sweet (2)
Tobago Treasure (5)
Funky Reaper (1)
Hungarian Hot (1)
Blonde (4)
BOC (1)
Bahamian Goat (3)
Goat's Weed (1)
 
For those interested, my 2013 Glog can be found here, and the 2014 Glog can be found here
 
You can see a picture of my germination setup in this post, and a closer shot of it plus a shot of the secondary growth station in this post.  The most recent germination numbers for this year can be found in this post.
 
My technique is crude and targeted for medium-large quantities of seeds and plants.  I don't soak seeds; they get planted directly into a moist soilless mix in 72-cell inserts in standard 1020 nursery flats.  Sometimes I use Fafard 3B germination mix, but this year I am using recycled Sunshine #1 mixed 3.8 cu.ft. to 3.0 cu.ft. pine bark mulch.  I keep everything watered with a dilute mix of Peter's 10-20-30 water soluble fertilizer.  Germinating flats are kept on heater pads and I try to keep the temperature at 82ºF.  In fact, it winds up fluctuating from day to night (lights on and off) and as the temperature fluctuates outside.  I actually have begun to believe a fluctuating temperature is better than a fixed temperature. 
 
The light in the germination stand is provided by three 2-bulb T12 shop lights on each level.  The bulbs are a mixture of color temperatures.  The fixtures and bulbs are getting old and the lumen output has dropped below what I consider acceptable.  I'll likely replace them soon (next year for sure, maybe sooner) with an equal number of T8s.  In the longer run, I'm designing LED lighting for the space.  Right now, the secondary growth stand doesn't have any supplemental lighting except for a couple of CFLs in reflector clamp lamps.  Most of the light comes from the south-facing picture window.  That's not really sufficient, but it does work.  It all works well enough for me for now (knock on wood).
 
I edited the previous post to show my best guess at the variety names after studying the list of varieties Justin said he sent and looking them up to see what looks like what.  I'm even happier now than I was before, as I've segregated and saved seeds from most of these.
 
Still no killing frost here.  Folks on the west side of town had a killing frost Thursday morning and a light frost a week or so ago.  At worst, a potted 7 Pod Brown on my front stoop got a little frost damage Thursday morning.  It was closest to the edge and thus most exposed to open sky.  Surprisingly, none of the plants in ground in the garden show any damage at all.  Right now, it looks like the next chance for a freeze is over a week away, with highs around 60 every day.  I may actually get some peppers from the in-grounds.  There are two Yellow Scorpion pods and one Brown 7 Pod pod that are about half ripe.  I had one YTS plant that had a half-dozen or so pods on it that were starting to ripen a couple of weeks ago, but that's the one plant out of 8 or 10 the deer decided to walk all over.  I did get a handful of broken pods from it for seeds, but I don't know if they're mature enough to germinate.
 
This year's been a big disappointment in terms of growing, but the sauce business is moving forward.  With much of the red tape involved in that out of the way, I'm looking forward to paying more attention to growing next year.  A good supply of peppers is definitely the bottle-neck in scaling up production.  I'm planning to contract out some pepper production as well as do a better job of growing myself.  I know I'm getting excited already thinking about starting seeds again.  Still want to grow a lot of varieties, but I'm going to cut back on numbers of each, except for the varieties used in the sauces and ramp way up on numbers of those.
 
I edited this post to reflect a more accurate pepper ID.  Was going to post a few pics from my Wyoming trip, but tinypic.com isn't working for me right now.  Maybe later.
 
I been waiting & thinking the plant will be killed soon but there still trucking along ;) 
I am also streamlining in 2016 best of luck on next year grow & your new business :onfire:  :high:  :fireball:
 
Plantguy76 said:
I been waiting & thinking the plant will be killed soon but there still trucking along ;) 
I am also streamlining in 2016 best of luck on next year grow & your new business :onfire:  :high:  :fireball:
 
Thanks, Jason.  Right now, the forecast looks like we'll get a freeze this coming weekend, but just barely.  With a little luck, it won't get quite so cold.
 
Sawyer said:
This year's been a big disappointment in terms of growing,
Same here, this year was a bust for me, which is sad because I had a few plants growing that I had wanted to try, and nothing.
 
Finally got a killing frost last Sunday, 11/22.  I had already potted up 8 TS Yellow plants and 3 7P Brown to try to overwinter.  There were also a few hundred volunteer plants from large seedling size to knee high growing where the main 2014 patch was located.  I dug up at least a hundred or two of these and stuffed them all in a single #5 pot.  Don't know if any will make it, but we'll see.
 
The TS Yellows were doing their best to ripen a handful of pods.  Here are a couple of pics:
2jg6vba.jpg

33f6b13.jpg

 
And a single, pitiful, 7P Brown pod:
 
2rr70hz.jpg

 
Filling out the 10 allotted pics, here are some from my trip to Wyoming back in September.
Reached the tree line on the second day:
1r98ww.jpg

 
After crossing the pass, you can begin to see the second valley:
2zjkk77.jpg

 
Passed this lake on the right side of the trail early on the third day:
33w1h89.jpg

 
And this one on the left a couple of hours later:
2gshm6t.jpg

 
Just before dropping down into the third and destination valley:
25sx5a9.jpg

 
Several days later, on the way out, a looking back shot:
oursk2.jpg

 
And a final shot on the last day:
103id03.jpg

 
Hope all the US folks have had a good Thanksgiving holiday, and wishing a good weekend to everyone else.
 
Sawyer said:
Finally got a killing frost last Sunday, 11/22.  I had already potted up 8 TS Yellow plants and 3 7P Brown to try to overwinter.  There were also a few hundred volunteer plants from large seedling size to knee high growing where the main 2014 patch was located.  I dug up at least a hundred or two of these and stuffed them all in a single #5 pot.  Don't know if any will make it, but we'll see.
 
The TS Yellows were doing their best to ripen a handful of pods.  Here are a couple of pics:
2jg6vba.jpg

33f6b13.jpg

 
And a single, pitiful, 7P Brown pod:
 
2rr70hz.jpg

 
Filling out the 10 allotted pics, here are some from my trip to Wyoming back in September.
Reached the tree line on the second day:
1r98ww.jpg

 
After crossing the pass, you can begin to see the second valley:
2zjkk77.jpg

 
Passed this lake on the right side of the trail early on the third day:
33w1h89.jpg

 
And this one on the left a couple of hours later:
2gshm6t.jpg

 
Just before dropping down into the third and destination valley:
25sx5a9.jpg

 
Several days later, on the way out, a looking back shot:
oursk2.jpg

 
And a final shot on the last day:
103id03.jpg

 
Hope all the US folks have had a good Thanksgiving holiday, and wishing a good weekend to everyone else.
John that is when I got my killing frost as well .
I am glad for a break & have most of the garden spot cleared.
I been thinking about Judy's stuffing scotch bonnets there slow growing & with many set backs with them was a total bust.
I have seed so I am thinking if I sow them that it should be early also even in there green state they smelled hot.
Those are some nice pics & those volunteers should be interesting.
 
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