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Sawyer 2019

I'm not quite done with the 2018 glog yet, but thought I'd get started on the new year's effort.  I'll update the grow list in my profile soon and probably post it here, too.
 
Mainly, this morning, I wanted a place to stick links to some PDFs I (finally) found (again).  These are technical documents from CARDI that some may find interesting (3.52 MB and 1.82 MB, respectively):
 
http://www.cardi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Hot-Pepper-Production-Manual-for-Trinidad-and-Tobago-2011-reprint.pdf
 
http://www.cardi.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2013/02/Cbbean-hot-pepper-production-post-harvest-manual.pdf
 
They both contain a lot of good detailed information, but that's not primarily why I post the links.  I'm not trying to start an argument (discussion is fine), but I prefer "7 pod" to "7 pot".  These two documents support that usage.  I found more that support the alternative... tomāto, tomahto. 
 
One of my goals this year is to scale up production. Now that I have access to commercial scale processing facilities, a good relationship with the local Food Science department, and life in general looks to be a little bit less of a PITA (knock on wood), the timing seems right.
 
I'm also planning my first ever intentional breeding effort.  Not that someone else hasn't attempted what I have in mind, but I haven't come across the idea before. Stay tuned for details.
 
And since a bit of color never hurts, here's a Papa Dreadie from last year, pic taken 180727:
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PaulG said:
Forests of seedlings!

Awesome getting this season underway in
a big way, John! The flats look great, dense
with starts and nice and green.
Thanks, Paul.  No saw logs yet, but maybe some day.
 
Deano5x said:
There getting taller !


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Yes, indeed.
 
There may be some overlap and/or gaps with respect to my last numbers post, but here are some germination numbers from yesterday.  If there's only one number, that's the number germinated; for the last planting, I didn't record how many seeds were sown.
 
Planted 4/12 (these are all purchased from vendors or sent from other THPers):
 
Poblano - 23/25
Habanada - 15/25
Sugar Rush Peach - 24/25
Purple BJ - 5/8
White Habanero - 16/19
Madame Jeannette - 22/26
Tekne Dolmasi - 17/25
Aleppo - 21/25
Santa Fe Grande - 33/60
Hot Tomatoes - 9/28
Bull's Heart - 26/40
Palmyra - 17/30
Sweet Charleston - 22/25
 
Planted 4/12 (These are all my own seeds from last year.  Low germination rates are, I think, due to inconsistent temperatures.):
 
Sugar Rush Cream* - 61/75
Yellow Jalapeño/Jaloro - 73/75
Sulu Adana - 43/75
Bahamian Goat - 61/75
Yellow 7 Pod - 59/75
Papa Dreadie SB - 49/75
 
Planted 4/21 (a mix of my own (SS) and  others' seeds.  Germination is ongoing here.):
 
SS Papa Dreadie SB - 73
Yellow BJ - 3
Chocolate BJ - 1
Indian Carbon - 17
Mustard BJ - 9
Goronong - 8
Peach BJ - 0
Pluma - 18
FM Jalapeño - 19
Moruga Scorpion - 7
SS Thai - 0
SS smooth orange Scorpion - 23
 
*This one was a mystery to me last year.  I was calling it a trainer habanero (based on shape alone), but thanks to suggestions from Black Fatalii, I've been able to identify it as Sugar Rush Cream.  Wow, is this a great pepper.
 
No new pepper pics, but just to add some color, this native columbine is growing in a pot on a table under a maple tree in my front yard:
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i dont know that ive ever seen columbine, or noticed it enough to take mental note of it.  Quite the evolution on that thing, i might have to research it a little later.
 
BDASPNY said:
how are the habanada growing for you? they're really slow growing but big producers once they get started.
They're coming along, only 23 or so days old, but I don't notice them lagging behind too much. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.

This 3 (4?) year old tepin is the first to go outside this year. If you look closely, you can see some flower buds. Assuming they go ahead and bloom and set berries, these will yield isolated seeds, further assuming the birds don't get them all.
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Kennylay said:
i dont know that ive ever seen columbine, or noticed it enough to take mental note of it.  Quite the evolution on that thing, i might have to research it a little later.
It is a very cool plant, Aquilegia canadensis.  From Wikipedia, 
 
"The genus name Aquilegia is derived from the Latin word for eagle (aquila), because of the shape of the flower petals, which are said to resemble an eagle's claw. The common name "columbine" comes from the Latin for "dove", due to the resemblance of the inverted flower to five doves clustered together."
 
I'm a little surprised it's doing so well in a pot on a table.  You can see some in its natural habitat in this post in my 2016 glog.
 
Sawyer said:
They're coming along, only 23 or so days old, but I don't notice them lagging behind too much. I'll try to get some pictures up soon.

This 3 (4?) year old tepin is the first to go outside this year. If you look closely, you can see some flower buds. Assuming they go ahead and bloom and set berries, these will yield isolated seeds, further assuming the birds don't get them all.
 
 
 
 
glad to hear they're growing well for you. im only growing one this year that I ow from last year. its growing fast and I was picking buds off to encourage more growth before blooming.
 
 
 I got 3 tepin started from the pod you sent.
 
BDASPNY said:
glad to hear they're growing well for you. im only growing one this year that I ow from last year. its growing fast and I was picking buds off to encourage more growth before blooming.
 
I got 3 tepin started from the pod you sent
The habanada plants look almost just like the white habanero plants at this point (second/third set of true leaves) and very unlike the much taller Sugar Rush Peach and Poblano on either side of them.

I think you've done well to get three tepin started. I planted a hundred seeds in one pot some time ago. One popped up in just a few days, then a few more a few days later. All told, twelve or thirteen have come up, but nothing in over a week or so. The soil has been cooler recently (moved the pot outside); I won't be surprised if more pop up later on when the temps heat up.

I sowed the last pepper seeds for the season using seeds you (BDASPNY) sent along with the habanada seeds. There were a few 0% germination square pots in a flat of "others", so I resowed them with peppers. Mostly the various cayennes and jalapeños, Anaheim, Gypsy, and Big Red sweet. What can you tell me about those last two?
 
Sawyer said:
The habanada plants look almost just like the white habanero plants at this point (second/third set of true leaves) and very unlike the much taller Sugar Rush Peach and Poblano on either side of them.

I think you've done well to get three tepin started. I planted a hundred seeds in one pot some time ago. One popped up in just a few days, then a few more a few days later. All told, twelve or thirteen have come up, but nothing in over a week or so. The soil has been cooler recently (moved the pot outside); I won't be surprised if more pop up later on when the temps heat up.

I sowed the last pepper seeds for the season using seeds you (BDASPNY) sent along with the habanada seeds. There were a few 0% germination square pots in a flat of "others", so I resowed them with peppers. Mostly the various cayennes and jalapeños, Anaheim, Gypsy, and Big Red sweet. What can you tell me about those last two?
 
the gypsy seeds are from a bonnie grown plant I got from lowes last year. the bonnie site has info on that one.
 
 
the big red sweet were seeds I saved from a store bought pepper I got last year. found them at lidl unfortunately all the info I have on those is it was large and had a good taste. we used them as a stuffing pepper. better than a regular bell pepper for sure.
 
We'll see what they produce this year. Gypsy is a hybrid, possibly Big Red, too.
 
Too few pics here, let me try to fix that. All of these were taken yesterday. Of the OWs, only the tepin has perked up enough to warrant a photo:
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Hoping to get some isolated pods from this one before anything else starts blooming.
 
Except for the Golden Queen cantaloupe, these are all OS RBG:
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Except for the three pots in the back, these are all BBM:
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PDN x BMJ up front, various tomatoes, and a few different varieties of peppers:
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Multi-flat 1, all peppers:
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Multi-flat 2, all peppers:
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Moving back inside, Habanadas front and center, miscellaneous elsewhere:
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Some more Papa Dreadie SB, an assortment of bhuts and others:
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Ending for now with a flat of mostly "others", but with some jalapeños up front and in the back:
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The others include perennial potato onions from seed from Kelly Winterton, black goji, desert rose, monk fruit, a few others.  Whatever pots had 0% germination have been replanted with a last sowing of peppers.
 
I have about as many more photos of others already hosted.  I'll post them a little later.

Edit: Ten pic limit, right? I have eleven "others", so I'll stick the first one here. Alpharoma hops:
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Part of my native woodland plants bed:
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Wake Robin up front, there's a lot of Solomon's Seal in there, too.  They are difficult to pick out because they look a lot like Solomon's Seal (and the Solomon's Seal is crowding them), but others in there include False Solomon's Seal and Large-flowered Bellwort.  Also present: Jack-in-the-pulpit, Bloodroot, a native yellow violet (with seed pods), and a Yellowwood tree seedling.  (Need to move that one.)  To the left and out of the frame is a small patch of Mayapple.
 
Just to the front right of that picture, at the base of a mulberry tree, are these Goldenseal with Jack-in-the-pulpit seedlings to the right of them:
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Those Jack-in-the-pulpit seedlings are uphill and around the tree from where a larger specimen dropped seeds a few years ago.  I assume ants moved them there, but it might have been a rodent.
 
This one doesn't look like much, but it may be my very favorite woodland forb, Cranefly Orchid, Tipularia discolor:
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The leaves die back right about now, then, with the right conditions, a beautiful little flower spike will pop up in September.
 
These ~100 Jack-in-the-pulpit seedlings are a rescue project:
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As are these Solomon's Seal:
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Here's a tub of common violets:
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The grass-like stuff growing in there is saffron crocus.  That's about ready to go dormant for the summer.  There's a Mt. Hood hops plant in there, too.  You can see a leaf in the upper left corner.
 
Perennial walking onions:
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These don't make a bulb and what's there can be pretty tough.  The top set bulblets are pretty tough, too.  But I've found that cutting the scapes for use in stir fry is a good sustainable way to use them.
 
Native elderberry, an unsung superfood?
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Shooting Star and Maidenhair Fern:
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More of the Columbine pictured somewhere up above: 
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It's about done blooming for the year.  Don't know if it set any seed.  I hope so.  
 
Hey John..nice Woodies there...I should see if I can post my photos ..Imgur not cooperating.
I have some Jacks...now poking through the soil..some with green & some purple stems..
also we had some variegated  Solomon Seals.around & some with green stems but I have to check sometimes they get in
the way..& disappear ..have Bleeding Hearts pink/white...& we had the invasive white Lily of the valley..pulled those out.
I planted the pink variety but the moles/voles did away with those...I see one or 2 most gone ..those are not invasive IMO.
Lots of ferns growing wild...will have to get those photos up.
Woodies are nice in the Spring. ;)
 
 
wiriwiri said:
Hey John..nice Woodies there...I should see if I can post my photos ..Imgur not cooperating.
I have some Jacks...now poking through the soil..some with green & some purple stems..
also we had some variegated  Solomon Seals.around & some with green stems but I have to check sometimes they get in
the way..& disappear ..have Bleeding Hearts pink/white...& we had the invasive white Lily of the valley..pulled those out.
I planted the pink variety but the moles/voles did away with those...I see one or 2 most gone ..those are not invasive IMO.
Lots of ferns growing wild...will have to get those photos up.
Woodies are nice in the Spring. ;)
I've been using tinypic.com for hosting. Seems pretty stable (knock on wood), no registration required, but it's kinda tedious to upload the images then keep track of the image links.

Around here the variegated Solomon's Seal is an introduced alien species, but they and the natives both can become aggressively problematic.
I look forward to seeing your pictures.
 
Took a bunch of 8' bamboo poles to a friend at her community garden plot yesterday. Helped her make a trellis out of them, not perfect but functional. Didn't think to take a picture; will try to remember next time I'm over there.
 
Gardener friend is growing a wild Brazil(ian) pepper. Another gardener is growing Charapita. I read they are different peppers, but the pictures of the berries sure look a lot alike. Anyone have any insight into the similarities and differences between these two peppers?
 
No pepper pic updates today, but here's a shot of some freshly sprouted moringa seedlings, taken today:
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Was 42°F this morning, but I think that's the last of the cool weather for the season... finally. For the foreseeable future, the lows are predicted to be in the 50s and 60s with highs in the mid 70s to lower 80s.

I think the last few nights in the 40s and a lot of cold rain were the nails in the coffin for the OW Bahamian Goat, but the rest of the OWs look like they'll make it. Pictures to follow when they have a little more new growth on them.

Today was dirt day for 3 BBMs and 3 Yellow 7 Pods. I skipped potting up; they went straight from a crowded 3.5" square pot to dirt, so they're pretty small. They went in hügelkultur "holes" that I established last year, three plants per hole.

I'll post pictures soon if the plants are still there tomorrow, i.e., if something doesn't eat them, walk on them, root them up, pull them up, crap on them, or any of the other myriad ways the universe comes up with to kill pepper plants. I put cardboard tube collars around them, so maybe the cutworms won't get them.
 
Sawyer said:
Gardener friend is growing a wild Brazil(ian) pepper. Another gardener is growing Charapita. I read they are different peppers, but the pictures of the berries sure look a lot alike. Anyone have any insight into the similarities and differences between these two peppers?
 
Sorry to clog the glog, but in response, John:
 
Here's a pic from 2014 comparing the Wild Brazil
and Charapita pods from my grow. The Charapitas
are more orange in color, but size and shape are
the same..
 
A small Charapita harvest.  wish I knew the latin name - difficult to track via google.  Any suggestions?:
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And a small one of Wild Brazil.  Wish I knew the latin names of these, as swell.  Can't seem to find to via google:
 
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