Pepper ID help

DonLava said:

Chile Negro De Arbol

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yeah im with don

Thanks a bunch DonLava and ajijoe!

Melissa what can you tell me about the GIFT PEPPER on your list??

im growing it too
all i know is its an ornimental??

thanks your friend JOe

Hi Joe

I am not growing all the peppers on this list. I rec'd dried pods of all these and grew out a handful not knowing which varieties I was going to end up with. Sorry I can't be more help!

Melissa

Melissa77754 said:

Hi Joe

I am not growing all the peppers on this list. I rec'd dried pods of all these and grew out a handful not knowing which varieties I was going to end up with. Sorry I can't be more help!

Melissa

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ok thanks your friend Joe

Beth @ Peppermania sells a chile negro de arbol and it looks nothing like this plant. My plants leaves are smooth and the one on peppermania's website are fuzzy like a goats weed pepper.

http://peppermania.com/annuum_seeds_4.html

Anyone else have any ideas on what this could be? Maybe not on the list?

Thanks!

The photo on the site is a Goat's Weed...they have upturned pods, and the Arbol have downward pods.

I wonder why Beth has it listed as Chile Negro de Arbol? I have some other mystery plants that have the fuzzy goat weed appearance, this particular one doesn't though which is why that picture threw me off.

Thanks stc3248

Melissa77754 said:

I wonder why Beth has it listed as Chile Negro de Arbol? I have some other mystery plants that have the fuzzy goat weed appearance, this particular one doesn't though which is why that picture threw me off.

Thanks stc3248

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No problem...I have several Goat's Weeds, actually my current profile photo is a B/W of a Goat's Weed with the pepper in color.


Here it is in color...


The pepper is now black and will eventually turn red...
I believe they may be right about the Negro de Arbol...but the shape looks a little odd for that variety. They are usually a little longer/slimmer and come to more of a point.

Hmmm...after some searching, the Negro de Arbol photos I'm finding have a slightly different pod shape, but similar in structure to the Goat's Weed. Regular Arbols have the down turned pods for sure. Your's definitely look nothing like either a Goat's Weed or an Arbol...hope you figure it out! I'll be watching.

Here's Beth's Goat's Weed photo. Notice the slightly different pod shape between the two...so her first photo was probably accurate and confirms that we have no idea what yours is

http://peppermania.com/annuum_seeds_10.html

I gave Beth the plants from the nursery here for Chile Negro De Arbol a year or so ago.

I think it's the unknown Goat weed type you have pictured above.
I had 2 of those plants.
One had upturned pods and one had pendant pods.
Both got fuzzy with age but never got as fuzzy as Goat weed or Chile Negro De arbol.

One of the gray/goat weed type unknows had a Purple blue tint in the sun to it's pods and the other had a brown tint.

I also have a couple other similar plants.
Vietnamese Black dragon , Black Cobra , Black Chile Verde and a couple more I can't think of right now without going to my collection lists.

All were similar to each other but when grown next to each other you could see differences in pod shape,colour/tint , size,bush or tree shaped etc.

If you grow the unknown in dim light the pods are Purple.

Got it from the 99 cent store.





Baught them for the Purple pods.An hour after being in sunlight they turned black.
One put out pendant pods and the other one put out upturned pods.
They were in a cardboard box so they weren't in very good shape when I bought them.
They got fuzzy after a week or so in bigger pots with sunlight.

Chile Negro De Arbol from Nursery



99 cent store unknown/goat weed type



Goat weed type from 99 cent store - upturned pods.





Black Cobra



Black Chile Verde - has a lot bigger pods...Bigger more tree like than the other black podded goat weed types I've grown.





Gift Pepper is an unknown ornamental I got from a trade a few years ago.

A friend commented that they liked it when I posted pics on a Pepper site a while back(2or so years ago).
I sent a plant to him as a supprise and he called it a "Gift Pepper"(as in Thanks for the gift Pepper).

I liked the name so that is what I call it now.

It stays in the yellow pod shade for a very long time and can be seen a mile away.
It turns from green to yellow to orange to red.









As a side note.
Most of the Gray Fuzzy collection I had didn't all get fuzzy until they matured and most had totally different pod sizes and shapes as they got older too.
The Black Cobra I grew in the shade didn't get fuzzy until I gave it full sun.

There are similar looking peppers from different places that are tree like or bush like,gray fuzzy with black pods that are somewhat similar.

Mexico - Chile Negro De Arbol , Black Cobra and Black Chile Verde
Venezuala - Goat Weed
Vietnam - Black Dragon

I have a feeling Black Cobra is a made up name by a seed vendor,are there Cobras in Mexico or S. America? LOL

smokemaster said:

I gave Beth the plants from the nursery here for Chile Negro De Arbol a year or so ago. I think it's the unknown Goat weed type you have pictured above. I had 2 of those plants. One had upturned pods and one had pendant pods. Both got fuzzy with age but never got as fuzzy as Goat weed or Chile Negro De arbol. One of the gray/goat weed type unknows had a Purple blue tint in the sun to it's pods and the other had a brown tint. I also have a couple other similar plants. Vietnamese Black dragon , Black Cobra , Black Chile Verde and a couple more I can't think of right now without going to my collection lists. All were similar to each other but when grown next to each other you could see differences in pod shape,colour/tint , size,bush or tree shaped etc. If you grow the unknown in dim light the pods are Purple. Got it from the 99 cent store. Black Cobra is a made up name by a seed

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smoke your gift pepper is called "Ordono" or at least it looks exaclly like it, i and my friend grow it every year

thanks your friend Joe

No purple pods like Ordono has.

I grew Ordono a while back.I don't think that is it.
Close but no Cigar I think.

http://www.thechileman.org/results.php?chile=1&find=Ordono&heat=Any&origin=Any&genus=Any&submit=Search

smokemaster said:

I have a feeling Black Cobra is a made up name by a seed vendor,are there Cobras in Mexico or S. America? LOL

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From what I've read Black Cobra is just a marketing name for Goat's Weed plants...Goat's Weed just doesn't sound very appealing, so to improve sales they made up the Black Cobra name because it just sounds cooler, and there are no cobras in North, Central or South America...

smokemaster said:

No purple pods like Ordono has.

I grew Ordono a while back.I don't think that is it.
Close but no Cigar I think.

http://www.thechilem...y&submit=Search

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ok

Goat weed is from Venezuela,chile Negro De Arbol,Black Cobra and Black Chile Verde are supposed to be from Mexico.
Could be a name thing but when grown side by side most of the peppers named above have differences that you can see and in heat and taste,flesh thickness and pod and plant size etc.