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PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South African

Welcome to PeriPeri's Grow 13/14/15/2016: South Africa
 
If you would like to see the 2012/2013 Grow, you can see it Here

First a little info about our country:

South Africa is situated at the very southern tip of the African continent. Our country ranges a divers spectrum of cultures and religions and of course habitats. Our country is flanked by the Atlantic on the SW coast line and the Indian Ocean on the NE coast line. Our diverse habitats range from tropical to sub saharan and even desert up north. One thing is for sure, the high summer temperatures and generally mild winter temperatures mean that our country does offer a great opportunity to grow chillies (among other things). To those who are not familiar with our country, Africa probably conjurs up images of harsh barren landscapes with dry baked un-fertile soil and wild animals roaming all over the place. South Africa is probably one of the most established african countries with a large farming sector and loads of fertile soil.

The locality of where this grow will take place is largely situated inland near Pretoria. Altitude here is about 4000ft above sea level. We are talking mild winters with some frost early mornings (temperatures drop at night due to altitude). Daytime temps in winter are round about 21ºC and night time temps can drop as low as -4ºC on a very cold night. There is no rain on the "Highveldt" as we call it in winter. As a rule of thumb all months of the year without an "R" do not have rain. These are our dry months, which go from May till August. Our summer is also our rainy season. This goes from September till April. Temperatures in Pretoria in Summer vary 30ºC - 40ºC daytime to a low of 17ºC on average at night. While there is often long dry spells without rain, rains usually accumulate as huge thunderstorms that bring flash floods, hail and sever lightning.

The farm has a borehole which provides water for the garden. Although at present there is no irrigation system. One of my projects for this year.

Animal wise, we have loads of insects, snakes, scorpions, spiders, primates (Baboons and Vervet Monkeys) as well as Carnivores such as Jackals, Rooicats (mountain lion) and other smaller wild cats. But as far as chillies go, the monkeys and baboons are the biggest problem as they do eat the milder chillies and destroy plants while foraging. There are no traps big enough for monkeys and generally they are very clever to get around most deterrents, so full enclosure with shade netting is the best way.

Other than this, I would say that while there has been much bad publicity about the country in the press, our country is a beautiful country with diversity everywhere, the land, the people, the cultures and the religions. Hence our country is called the rainbow nation. Most famous person is probably Nelson Mandella who established our new democracy in the New South Africa after the apartheit era. Our country is a young democracy in the making - but most of all, our country is a diverse and beautiful country with much to offer and of course home of the Big 5, Blue Whale and Great White Shark... and much much more. Just a quick and very narrow snapshot of what our wonderful country is about!

Last years experience has given me a better understanding of growing at the farm and these are the pitfalls from my exercise last year.

Generally last year was a great season. Great weather - hot and dry. Lots of mistakes made, but things that will not be repeated. Last year we had about 78 different varieties of chillies. We had an estimated 1000 plants in the soil. Last season was our first season growing in the soil and based on previous experiences with growing in pots... I will say adieu to pots and hello soil.

1) Watering. As mentioned there is no irrigation. Water is available a plenty, but regular watering in these hot climates is a must. So for me, I will be looking closely at getting some sort of a watering system up and running. Added problem is that the farm is located about 1 hour from where I live, so watering every day during the week was reliant on staff at the farm watering ever second day during the week. Staffing issues resulted in the loss of quite a few plants due to non watering. So irrigation and a computer will be priority.

2) Season. Last year we started planting seedlings late October/Early November. This year we aim to be in the soil early October. Germination started earlier this season beginning July. I have also acquired a green house which I will use for the seedlings.

3) Planting. Last year planting got into a big muddle. This year I will be more methodical. Also, we planted too close. We found that this becomes a problem when harvesting. We did not feel that last years approach of planting two seedlings together being a problem. We did not notice any significant lower yield with plants that had been planted together as opposed to individually. And found that the cohabitation of plants together (in pairs) actually helped in areas where seedlings were exposed to direct sun. In fact, cohabitation resulted in better growth and larger plants.

4) Spacing. Last year we planted seedlings approx 45cm apart. We would like to extend this to 60cm as we found 45cm to be too dense. We were happy with using channels and rows which helped retain water for approx two - three days between watering and helped channel any run off out of the field. Also, there was no pooling or puddling which was better I think.

5) Insects/monkeys/Snails. Mostly cutworm issues with small seedlings. We will tackle this by using (Stickman's stick method) and through pellets - if need be. Pepper maggots: We suffered quite extensively with Pepper Maggots. We will implement sacrificial boundary plants, fly tapes and beer traps (not for me but the wasps). Monkeys: Plant inside enclosures only. We will be looking at extending the current shade net enclosure, but will need to raise funding for this. Giant African Land Snail: Amazing buggers these. We found lots but only a few that had dug into the plants root system to suck the minerals from plant roots. Not much of a threat as these were just removed by hand, but the enclosure goes a long way to preventing them from getting in.

6) Weeds. Last year we had a problem with weeds. Weeds were time consuming at the start of the season and probably brought about by the application of horse manure. We will try and look at applying some kind of ground cover to reduce weeds, but this will be advised at a later stage.

7) Planting. Last year we took young seedlings and planted them in a nursery. Once big enough we transplanted them densely in the inside enclosed garden (which has 40% shade cloth) and then transplanted the young plants to the open fields once about 15 - 20cm in size. We would like to cut out all the extra work and transplanting, which we found to just delay growth. Every time you transplant, the plant growth is set back... so we will be planting directly into the plants final destination. This means we will be waiting for the pants to get to 15-20cm in size before planting in the soil. Last season we planted seedlings in the soil when they were very small and this also resulted in losses through cutworm.

8) Fertilizers. Nothing hectic. The soil at the farm is incredibly rich and fertile soil. But we found last year that Seaweed and Fish fertilizers to be brilliant and totally harmless. So we will definitely be sticking with this recipe. Out of time constraint, last season, pellets were applied to the surface as opposed to mixing the pellets into the soil around the base of the plant, so this season we will try and do this properly. We alo will pay particular attention to maintaining the mounds around the root base and regularly loosening the soil. With our flash floods and heavy downpours the mounds do flatten and the soil becomes compacted. This results in roots being exposed, water running off the soil as opposed to into the soil and ultimately impacting on the plants optimal growth.

9) Support. Last year we added support as the plants became bigger. Not knowing how big some of the plants would get. We have a better idea this year and will be implementing supports at the beginning. We have two types of bamboo on the farm and will be using the harder thinner bamboo as this does not disturb the roots as much.

10) Drink. More beer. Last year we did not have nearly enough beer to get us through the backbreaking work... so there will have to be more beer for sure :) Just one more thing on that, Nature is an amazing process. Trust in nature. Everything has its place and jumping to intervene (which we always want to do) is sometimes the worst thing that we can do. Plants are very forgiving once established and a lot more resilient than we give them credit for. So chill. Have a beer when the nerves are frayed and you want to reach for the napalm. Nature is amazing most of the time and things in nature have survived a million times over. For aphids there are ladybirds. For insects there are the birds... if you napalm the aphids, the ladybirds will go... just chill and have a beer :) This is my theory and I am sticking to it lol

Ok, lots on the cards this year. plenty to do and arrange and it will be kicking off shortly. The plants from last year are still in the garden and field. I only over wintered the special plants. Of these there are 100 mature plants that I rescued from the winter frost. The other 900 plants are still in the soil. It looks like armageddon in the fields. Some plants have been taken by the frost for sure, but others are showing signs of life. I plan to go this week to weed out the dead plants from the survivors and prune dead wood. I am planning to rearrange things somewhat, so once I have established the survivors, I will be transplanting those plants to get order back into the fields. This will allow me to get the vacant land ready for new plants.

As mentioned germination is well under way. Propagator has been fired up now for month and a bit and seedlings are coming along just great. First week of October will be my D-Day for planting.

Loads of exciting new chillies on the go this season. I had intended to cut down on the number of plants this year... but guess what :D

Grow List 2013/2014

Aji Lemon
Angkor Sunrise
Anheim
Antilaise Caribbean
Avenir
Baby Belle Pimento
Bahamian Goat
Bali Long
Bali Naga
Bhut Jolokia
Bhut Jolokia Cappuccino
Bhut Jolokia Chocolate
Bhut Jolokia Peach
Bhut Jolokia X Habanero Giant White
Big Jim
Bile Bile (Zimbabwean PeriPeri)
Biquinho
Bishops Crown
Black Pearl
Blondie
Bonda Ma Jacques
Boriya Mirch
Cabe Merah
Calapeño Thunder
California Wonder Golden
Calypso
CARDI Red
Carolina Reaper
Cayenne
Joe's Long Cayenne
Cherry Sweet
Cherry Bomb
Cheyenne
Cheyenne X Thai
Condom (Aji Verde)
Datil
Devil's Tongue Brown
Devil's Tongue White
Ecuadorian Sweet
Explosive Embers
Facing Heaven
Fatalii Red
Fatalii White
Fatalii Yellow
Fidalga Roxa
Fish Pepper
Goronong Cili
Habanero Big Sun
Habanero Champagne
Habanero Gambia
Habanero Golden
Habanero Paper Lantern
Habanero Peach Long
Habanero Red
Habanero Large White
Habanero White Jellybean
Hong Kong
Hot Pixies
Hungarian Hot Wax
Hungarian Sweet Wax
Hungarian White Apple
Ignite
Jalapeño
Jalapeño El Jefe
Jamaican Gold
Jawala
Long Thai
Madballz7
Makulu Peri
Malaguetta
Manzano Orange
Mata Frade
Morango
Naga King Jolokia
Naga Morich (European)
Naga Morich (Indian)
Naga Viper
NagaBon
Nagalah
Orange Blob
Pasilla Bajio
Pata Pario
PeriPeri (Mozambique)
PeriPeri (Malawi)
PeriPeri (SA)
Phuli Jiyoti
Pimenta de Neyde
Purple Tiger
Red Savina
Ring of Fire
Rocotillo
Rodo
CARDI Yellow Scorpion
Scarlet Lantern
Scotch Bonnet
Scotch Bonnet Peach Long
Serrano
Sikanya
Tabasco
Thai Dragon
Thaibo
Trinidad 7 Pot Barrakpore
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah X Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad 7 Pot Brainstrain
Trinidad 7 Pot Burgundy
Trinidad 7 Pot Douglah
Trinidad 7 Pot Jonah
Trinidad 7 Pot Red
Trinidad 7 Pot White
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga
Trinidad Perfume
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Trinidad 7 Pot Primo
Trinidad Scorpion ButchT X Moruga
Trinidad Scorpion CARDI Yellow X Bhut Jolokia
Trinidad Scorpion Long Tail
Trinidad Scorpion Moruga Chocolate
Trinidad Scorpion Sunrise
Trinidad Scorpion Yellow FG
Tuscan Frgitello (Pepperoncini)
 
122 different types - I hope that will be it :D
 
Thank you to Stickman for the seeds. Thank you to Conor for his seeds and thank you to Meatfreak for the amazing selection he sent. I am still hoping that Walkgood's package will arrive - so thanks for those in advance my friend!
 
 
 
chilli whisperer said:
Why are there "F1" or "F2" at the end of some names????
 
Hey chilli whisperer, here's from wikipedia "F1 stands for Filial 1, the first filial generation seeds/plants or animal offspring resulting from a cross mating of distinctly different parental types."
 
So, last year (2012), I crossed a Choco Bhut with a Douglah, that seed is called Choco Bhut x Douglah F1.  The "mother" plant is always put first in this naming convention, so I pollinated a Choco Bhut flower with Douglah pollen in this instance.  That seed is F1, when I grew out a plant from this seed this year (2013), that plant was an F1 plant.  Now, seed from that plant which I shared with a bunch of people is F2 seed, and seed from those plants will be F3.  By the time they get to F7 or so they'll be basically stabilized.  Make sense?
PeriPeri said:
This is to denote their generations. Correct me if I am wrong guys, but the higher the F the more stable the strain?

Hey Charles, glad you saw them. Unfortunately I tried two times to germinate the galapagoense and no luck! Tricky little buggers they are. Also, the Bhut Yellow "A". I tried germination twice without any success. I am not sure if maybe the seeds were blitzed in the postal system?
 
 
Hm, the galapagoense can be a pain, sorry they didn't work out.  Maybe I could send you some more to try.  Did the Yellow Bhut B work out?
 
Spicegeist said:
 
Hey chilli whisperer, here's from wikipedia "F1 stands for Filial 1, the first filial generation seeds/plants or animal offspring resulting from a cross mating of distinctly different parental types."
 
So, last year (2012), I crossed a Choco Bhut with a Douglah, that seed is called Choco Bhut x Douglah F1.  The "mother" plant is always put first in this naming convention, so I pollinated a Choco Bhut flower with Douglah pollen in this instance.  That seed is F1, when I grew out a plant from this seed this year (2013), that plant was an F1 plant.  Now, seed from that plant which I shared with a bunch of people is F2 seed, and seed from those plants will be F3.  By the time they get to F7 or so they'll be basically stabilized.  Make sense?
Thanks C, that cleared things up for me too! So I am on F2 and F3 respectively ;)
 
PeriPeri said:
Thanks C, that cleared things up for me too! So I am on F2 and F3 respectively ;)
 
So, yeah, your Choco Bhut x Douglah plants are F2, the seed you get from those will be F3 seeds and produce F3 plants.
 
Spicegeist said:
 
Hey chilli whisperer, here's from wikipedia "F1 stands for Filial 1, the first filial generation seeds/plants or animal offspring resulting from a cross mating of distinctly different parental types."
 
So, last year (2012), I crossed a Choco Bhut with a Douglah, that seed is called Choco Bhut x Douglah F1.  The "mother" plant is always put first in this naming convention, so I pollinated a Choco Bhut flower with Douglah pollen in this instance.  That seed is F1, when I grew out a plant from this seed this year (2013), that plant was an F1 plant.  Now, seed from that plant which I shared with a bunch of people is F2 seed, and seed from those plants will be F3.  By the time they get to F7 or so they'll be basically stabilized.  Make sense?

 
 
Hm, the galapagoense can be a pain, sorry they didn't work out.  Maybe I could send you some more to try.  Did the Yellow Bhut B work out?
The Yellow Bhut B did and also C - Just A did not germinate in two instances. Was that an experiment? I will give the galapagoense another try for sure. I don't think its a pain... that's nature. I am sure the parcel got blitzed with some xrays possibly? I could not allow you to send again! Only if there were seeds I have you would like to swap? :)
 
Spicegeist said:
 
 
Breeding is easy once you get the hang of it.  Here's a great resource that helped me get started:
http://www.fatalii.net/Growing_chile_peppers/Breeding
 
Bon Chance!
Hey Charles. Last season I came across a unknown. It was supposed to have been a Red Habanero, but the whole bush was covered in off white pods. I have harvested seeds from this plant and have seedlings on the go. So what I will do is keep any seeds from any further white pods I get from any plants this season - and those will be F2 seeds. I continue this process until - in theory - round about F7, I should be left with seeds that grow only white plants? I have named this plant the Champagne Haba as it has this off white golden colour... it has the most delicate flacour and heat and this amazing Ruby Grapefruit aroma :)
 
Wow, very cool.  Also, ideally you could grow out seed from different pods and keep them separate (label them a, b, c, etc.), and pick the best from those F2 plants.
 
Spicegeist said:
Wow, very cool.  Also, ideally you could grow out seed from different pods and keep them separate (label them a, b, c, etc.), and pick the best from those F2 plants.
Great tip - thank you... I will do!
 
Hi Guys - I hope you all had a good Thanksgiving! Here in S Africa we do not celebrate Thanksgiving... although we are going to a friends house to celebrate on Sunday. They have been to the states quite a lot and have adopted the tradition... although this year it was postponed till sunday - but it will be great to experience the tradition ;)
 
We went to the farm yesterday. It was a great day for gardening - warm, but overcast. It has been cooler at the farm the past couple of days and we have had good rains. The rain has properly permeated the soil and the plants have just flourished over night. It has only been two days since we were last there, but this bit of rain in two days has made them seedlings and plants just explode with growth. I don't know what it is about rain... but it just rapidly brings about transformation in a garden.
 
Anyway... just a few pictures...
 
I found this bugger just lying ontop of the soil in the garden. Massive! I am guessing this is a Queen Ant?
 
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Rick, your Sungold & Cherokee Tomatoes and Tomatillo's are doing great. Please post me some etiquette/tips/pointers on growing these successfully?
 
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I am just amazed at how quickly the OW plants have taken to the soil and how quickly they have started to pod up. Some plants have actually podded before growing taller or bigger... I am wondering if I should not pick the pods and flowers to let the plant put more energy into growing bigger...
 
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The first Bhut of the season has popped up... awesome! Lots of hot pods on the go already!
 
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Everything's looking stellar Lourens! It won't be long before you'll have to stake up the tomatoes and tomatillos... especially the Sungold cherry tomatoes and tomatillos. The sungolds can grow to over 2 meters easily, and the rest to almost that. When they get tall enough to begin staking, you should begin pruning (pinching off) side stems and lower leaves that turn yellow and die as the plant grows upwards and makes new leaves.  This article explains it pretty well...   http://www.tomatodirt.com/pruning-tomato.html
Tomatillos just need staking, and will amaze you at how big the plants will get. I'd space them at least a meter apart.
 
Wow! That's a big beetle grub in your pic... I'd whack every one I saw... they chew on the roots of plants until they pupate and emerge as adults.
 
Laurens, we haven’t had T-day yet, it’s next Thursday. AFAIK it’s always the last Thursday of November regardless of day or date, I think it’s late this year because the 1st was on a Friday. So da day after, black Friday isn’t until next Friday. I can’t recall where I read it but some countries in the EU have adopted Black Friday & Black Monday. I can’t see any country adopting a US holiday but the food is great, so hope you enjoy it  mon!
 
- Kill all dem grubs -_-
- Plants look stellar brethren and I’m amazed at your OWs as well, great job mon!
- Hab an awesome T-day dinner at your friends and a great weekend!
 
stickman said:
Everything's looking stellar Lourens! It won't be long before you'll have to stake up the tomatoes and tomatillos... especially the Sungold cherry tomatoes and tomatillos. The sungolds can grow to over 2 meters easily, and the rest to almost that. When they get tall enough to begin staking, you should begin pruning (pinching off) side stems and lower leaves that turn yellow and die as the plant grows upwards and makes new leaves.  This article explains it pretty well...   http://www.tomatodirt.com/pruning-tomato.html
Tomatillos just need staking, and will amaze you at how big the plants will get. I'd space them at least a meter apart.
 
Wow! That's a big beetle grub in your pic... I'd whack every one I saw... they chew on the roots of plants until they pupate and emerge as adults.
Hey Rick - thanks for the info - I will do that... as I have no clue about anything to do with the a fore mentioned! I will definitely check out that link thank you!
 
Just checked it out - great link thank you! Does this form of pruning also apply to tomatillos?
 
I did a bit of research and I do believe this is the grub of a Rhino Beetle... seen lots of the beetles around the place. Not many thinks gross me out... mat that thing was truly disgusting man lol

WalkGood said:
Laurens, we haven’t had T-day yet, it’s next Thursday. AFAIK it’s always the last Thursday of November regardless of day or date, I think it’s late this year because the 1st was on a Friday. So da day after, black Friday isn’t until next Friday. I can’t recall where I read it but some countries in the EU have adopted Black Friday & Black Monday. I can’t see any country adopting a US holiday but the food is great, so hope you enjoy it  mon!
 
- Kill all dem grubs -_-
- Plants look stellar brethren and I’m amazed at your OWs as well, great job mon!
- Hab an awesome T-day dinner at your friends and a great weekend!
Hey Ramon - thanks my friend... hahaha, well that guacamole is on my face then. Being in africa and not celebrating T-day... and the forum having been so quiet - I just had to presume. Well no embarrassment there then lol I have been wishing everyone a Happy T-day and you are the first to point out the error! LOL  :oops:
 
That grub is dead dead dead for sure... that thing was so big, it probably would have eaten one of my OW plants one time! I only found out it was a Rhino beetle grub ofter the fact, so I am a tad sad about that... but hey - we can't loose the precious... sorry grub RIP.
 
Hey, Lourens, your plants are looking really healthy.  With the cooler temps and adequate rains, you really do have something to be thankful for.  I think the timing of Thanksgiving is a mystery even to most Americans.  I didn't remember myself until I just checked it out on Wikipedia.  It's always the fourth Thursday of November, so it can occur as early as the 22nd (as it did last year) or as late as the 28th, as it does this year.
 
Yeah, too bad about that grub.  In a lot of species, the grubs only eat dead, rotten wood, which I guess would be a good thing.  I remember playing with the beetles as a kid, but can't recall seeing one lately.
 
Rick, that looks like a really good website for tomatoes.  Bookmarked.
 
PeriPeri said:
Hey Rick - thanks for the info - I will do that... as I have no clue about anything to do with the a fore mentioned! I will definitely check out that link thank you!
 
Just checked it out - great link thank you! Does this form of pruning also apply to tomatillos?
 
FYI, the  tomato seeds I sent you were all indeterminate varieties. Tomatillos are a different plant entirely, and don't put out side branching like tomatoes, so you don't need to prune. In a way, it's too bad that tomatoes don't have the papery husk that tomatillos do... then sunscald wouldn't be an issue. Good luck with them my friend... you're gonna love the Cherokee Purple tomatoes fresh and in your sauces!
 
LOVE the gardening space you have there, YUCK on the grub...damn things!! You will love the Cherokee purple tomato, its one of my staples for my garden too, another one is black seaman, another nice tasting one to add. :dance:  If you don't have seeds for black seaman, let me know. ;)
 
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