i am trying to overwinter a filius blue - the first peppers i grew myself and my first overwinter project. the silly thing keeps growing flowers. i have left a few but they don't end up fruiting. should i just pull them all? there are a crapload.
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overwintering 2011 Overwinter Experiment
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Do they have enough food, water, heat and light? Keep in mind the light during the day in these northern parts (I'm in NE Ohio) isn't really long enough - you need to supplement with artificial light if you want them to keep producing. However, if your intent is to just overwinter, without them producing, you might cut down on the watering - don't water more than once a week (but at the same time, don't let them get bone-dry.)
So maybe I'm impatient... just maybe. And maybe my curiosity is at play here, too. At any rate, below is a pic of JalapeƱo 1, with an arrow pointing to the teensy-tiny new growth. This was the "almost-microscopic" growth I mentioned in my first post, and you can see it hasn't gotten much bigger at all, though it is slightly bigger. Of course, the other jalapeƱo continues to put out new leaves left and right, and at the rest of its nodules - it also started at the highest nodule, but is putting out more shoots at the lower nodules now. So I'm scratching my head over this one - why is this taking so much longer to get moving? Is it because I pruned it too close to the nodule? Is it this particular variety of jalapeƱo vs. the other? And why hasn't it put out new growth at the lower nodules? Is this destined to stay green a while longer, then just turn out dead one day? Is there life on a planet in some distant galaxy.....???
If you've had a similar experience after pruning your plants back this seriously, I'd appreciate any insight you can share!
If you've had a similar experience after pruning your plants back this seriously, I'd appreciate any insight you can share!
Here's my progress report. Just let me know if I'm 'hijacking', and I'll kill it. Figured it'd be cool to compare, though.
Okay...here's an overhead shot of all the plants I'm overwintering:
White Bullet Habanero has a single growth coming back:
Manzano Anaranjado seems to be sprouting nicely:
Okay...here's an overhead shot of all the plants I'm overwintering:
White Bullet Habanero has a single growth coming back:
Manzano Anaranjado seems to be sprouting nicely:
Onza Roja is rocking it hard. An annum!!
Criolla Sella was my first plant in. I put it back outside during nice weather and then forgot to bring it in during the next freeze. So...TWO freezes after cutback, it's STILL alive!!
Chocolate Hab lookin' pretty good. This is a third year plant if it makes it till March.
And very little life out of the Chile de Arbol, but enough to look alive
Criolla Sella was my first plant in. I put it back outside during nice weather and then forgot to bring it in during the next freeze. So...TWO freezes after cutback, it's STILL alive!!
Chocolate Hab lookin' pretty good. This is a third year plant if it makes it till March.
And very little life out of the Chile de Arbol, but enough to look alive
lol, maybe the one growing slow is just stupid 
but good job gemee! huh overwintering eh, I should.... never mind, I grow year round anyways lol 
wish I could try a overwinter experiment on one of my plants to see if int even pulls through it but, I'm just ginna leave em be, unless I see mites, then they say bye bye to all their leaves....
but good job gemee! huh overwintering eh, I should.... never mind, I grow year round anyways lol wish I could try a overwinter experiment on one of my plants to see if int even pulls through it but, I'm just ginna leave em be, unless I see mites, then they say bye bye to all their leaves....
Looks and sounds like JalapeƱo #1 will do great! You know what said about late bloomers, or the race is not always won by the quickest out of the gate 
The last pics I posted were in the middle of January, and it's February now, so time for an update.
JalapeƱo 1:
This is just as curious as can be. You can see it's still green - good! But you also don't see any leaves popping out yet. But still, that teensy-tiny growth just barely coming out of the top nodule is still there, still green - looks like it's just taking its sweet time getting moving. Also, what was a teensy-tiny growth coming out of the lower nodule on the right is now larger. It's still very small, but it's larger. (I'll take what I can get at this point.) I have a close-up of it below - it's still hard to see, but it's definitely there, you can just make out the two parts of it just above where the former branch was cut off.
JalapeƱo 2:
This one is still a happy camper, and I found two new things today. The first was the little "hitchhiker" you see coming out of the dirt to the left of the peƱo plant. The other was new growth coming out of another old growth node.
And a failed attempt at a close-up of the hitchhiker.... I'm going to let it hang out maybe another week, and if it survives today's sun, will move it to a pot to figure out what it is later.
Cayenne:
Well, based on another's post that a leaf miraculously appeared on their presumed-dead plant, I am continuing to water this as the others. Could be my imagination, but I pulled away the dirt from the base a bit, and think I may see some new root growth. Maybe, maybe not. We'll see all in good time.
Last but not least, the basil. Something is getting to its leaves, and I am plucking them off as I find it. However, I haven't found an actual critter yet. It does seem to be sucking out the cells of the leaves. I am trying different measures, but no change yet. As you can see, I finally trussed it to a stick, as it was still unhappy after I dropped it on its head that one time - bending way too far over.
Until next time!
JalapeƱo 1:
This is just as curious as can be. You can see it's still green - good! But you also don't see any leaves popping out yet. But still, that teensy-tiny growth just barely coming out of the top nodule is still there, still green - looks like it's just taking its sweet time getting moving. Also, what was a teensy-tiny growth coming out of the lower nodule on the right is now larger. It's still very small, but it's larger. (I'll take what I can get at this point.) I have a close-up of it below - it's still hard to see, but it's definitely there, you can just make out the two parts of it just above where the former branch was cut off.
JalapeƱo 2:
This one is still a happy camper, and I found two new things today. The first was the little "hitchhiker" you see coming out of the dirt to the left of the peƱo plant. The other was new growth coming out of another old growth node.
And a failed attempt at a close-up of the hitchhiker.... I'm going to let it hang out maybe another week, and if it survives today's sun, will move it to a pot to figure out what it is later.
Cayenne:
Well, based on another's post that a leaf miraculously appeared on their presumed-dead plant, I am continuing to water this as the others. Could be my imagination, but I pulled away the dirt from the base a bit, and think I may see some new root growth. Maybe, maybe not. We'll see all in good time.
Last but not least, the basil. Something is getting to its leaves, and I am plucking them off as I find it. However, I haven't found an actual critter yet. It does seem to be sucking out the cells of the leaves. I am trying different measures, but no change yet. As you can see, I finally trussed it to a stick, as it was still unhappy after I dropped it on its head that one time - bending way too far over.
Until next time!
Lookin' good! Especially J2!
My chocolate hab is starting to bud out! The only one I'm having doubts about is the de Arbol. Seems to be pretty weak. Even the freeze damaged Big Hab/Garden Vato Hab and the Criolla Sella are looking good. About five weeks to go for me. We'll see...
I haven't been giving them any extra nutrients, but did a little yesterday. Will be going to pick up some stuff this weekend.
I looked a little closer at Jalapeno 2 last night, and found it has the beginnings of a bud on it. Part of me is inclined to snip it off, so it can focus on re-establishing the roots and leaves for a while yet, but part of me is curious to see what comes of it. Maybe I will snip this one off but let the next one do what it wants.
I looked a little closer at Jalapeno 2 last night, and found it has the beginnings of a bud on it. Part of me is inclined to snip it off, so it can focus on re-establishing the roots and leaves for a while yet, but part of me is curious to see what comes of it. Maybe I will snip this one off but let the next one do what it wants.
Peno #1 will most likely surprise you with explosive new growth very soon. Give it more light and warmth. 
What kinda stuff you have in mind for nutes? They don't need much (read very little if any) ATM.
What kinda stuff you have in mind for nutes? They don't need much (read very little if any) ATM.
Well, they are all getting what some might consider too much light at this point. They are in a south facing window, and receive full sun most of the day. But realize that when I say "full sun", I mean not just the sun's direct rays, but all the reflection off the snow piled up about 2ft high around the house. Yes, folks, we've actually had 3 sunny days in a row in this frozen place. It is almost blinding. I have put my sprouts in the same window in the morning a bit, but am being careful to remove them so they don't cook to death.
So PeƱo 1 has decided to start showing more active signs of life already, in just these two days' time. The tiny growth coming out of the lower node in the pic above is now clearly doing its best to kick things off, as it's now at least 1/4" long and looking very much like a leaf. There are also additional tiny growths clustered around it, so it is clearly going to jump into gear over the next several days. The teensy-tiny growth out of the upper node, however, has still not budged beyond its initial appearance. It is still bright green, so may decide to come out of its shell yet.
Nutrients I have in mind are some of the things many have mentioned on this site - a good tomatoe/pepper type of mix, plus fish emulsion, epsom salts, calcium.... and Datil's fav Organocide for whatever the heck is getting to the basil.
Still curious about the hitchhiker. I noticed today that it's cotyledons are ever so slightly fuzzy. Part of me thinks it came from the bag of soil, but is just now appearing because of the sun we've been having. However, we've had random sunny days since I chopped the plants and put them in that window, so part of me thinks this shouldn't be the case. Whatever it is, it is clearly not a pepper that I've ever grown, as the shape of the cotyledons isn't right for that. Ah well, will wait and see. So far it's managed to survive the screaming sunshine in the window, while the pepper sprouts kind of cried about it after a bit. Whatever it is (and I have a sneaking suspicion it's something I'll end up throwing out), it's definitely hardier than the babies.
So PeƱo 1 has decided to start showing more active signs of life already, in just these two days' time. The tiny growth coming out of the lower node in the pic above is now clearly doing its best to kick things off, as it's now at least 1/4" long and looking very much like a leaf. There are also additional tiny growths clustered around it, so it is clearly going to jump into gear over the next several days. The teensy-tiny growth out of the upper node, however, has still not budged beyond its initial appearance. It is still bright green, so may decide to come out of its shell yet.
Nutrients I have in mind are some of the things many have mentioned on this site - a good tomatoe/pepper type of mix, plus fish emulsion, epsom salts, calcium.... and Datil's fav Organocide for whatever the heck is getting to the basil.
Still curious about the hitchhiker. I noticed today that it's cotyledons are ever so slightly fuzzy. Part of me thinks it came from the bag of soil, but is just now appearing because of the sun we've been having. However, we've had random sunny days since I chopped the plants and put them in that window, so part of me thinks this shouldn't be the case. Whatever it is, it is clearly not a pepper that I've ever grown, as the shape of the cotyledons isn't right for that. Ah well, will wait and see. So far it's managed to survive the screaming sunshine in the window, while the pepper sprouts kind of cried about it after a bit. Whatever it is (and I have a sneaking suspicion it's something I'll end up throwing out), it's definitely hardier than the babies.
Couldn't help myself - one last post for the day.
JalapeƱo 1:
FINALLY!!!!
JalapeƱo 2 and the hitchhiker:
This one now has 4 buds on it. My inclination is to let one grow so I can determine which variety of jalapeƱo it is, and pinch off the others. Any opinions on this - pinch or not at this point? Also, not sure if you can make it out, but the hitchhiker is already developing its first true leaf.
Cayenne:
Don't ask me why, but I'm still not 100% convinced this is entirely dead. I am hoping something comes up from the roots. We'll see if that is "false hope" or not eventually. Why am I not yet convinced? Not sure if you can tell, but the stem isn't 100% grey-brown - it seems to have an ever-so-slight tint of green to it. Not 100% dead tells me survival is still possible.
Basil:
Moving along. Shopped for organocide a bit this morning but didn't find any. Will check out a few more places over the next several days.
JalapeƱo 1:
FINALLY!!!!
JalapeƱo 2 and the hitchhiker:
This one now has 4 buds on it. My inclination is to let one grow so I can determine which variety of jalapeƱo it is, and pinch off the others. Any opinions on this - pinch or not at this point? Also, not sure if you can make it out, but the hitchhiker is already developing its first true leaf.
Cayenne:
Don't ask me why, but I'm still not 100% convinced this is entirely dead. I am hoping something comes up from the roots. We'll see if that is "false hope" or not eventually. Why am I not yet convinced? Not sure if you can tell, but the stem isn't 100% grey-brown - it seems to have an ever-so-slight tint of green to it. Not 100% dead tells me survival is still possible.
Basil:
Moving along. Shopped for organocide a bit this morning but didn't find any. Will check out a few more places over the next several days.