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A Fishy Winter Grow: Stuff in a Tent

Be it ever so humble...
 
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Currently, there are three pepper plants on the bottom (the four all the way on the right are garlic experiments). The one that's nice and rootbound in a tiny container on the right is a manganji, which I pretty much just want to see the pheno from. In the bags on the left, there's shishito (which I found out my wife loves, so that goes on the list), and Greek pepperoncini, a.k.a. Friggitello.
 
I'm really hoping to grow giant white habanero, both over the winter and outside next year, but so far I've had no luck at all getting them to germinate. Which really sucks, because I was hoping to cross those with CGN 21500 and possibly larger sweet varieties. 21500 was also supposed to be the fourth tent pepper. I should have isolated seeds for that coming from my current plant soon.
 
But as I've been attempting to germinate those GW habs, I also started a couple other things. My purple UFO did not grow true, but I started more to see if I can get something on-pheno; on the top shelf, I have two new seedlings from that envelope in rockwool. I also have two very healthy-looking sugar rush peach in there. While I'd prefer to grow the peach outside next year, if I can't get those GW habs to take, I might have to switch, and that could be a pretty good candidate.
 
So the current plan is to have four one-gallon bags on the bottom with a nice selection of mild to medium hot peppers, and go through just as much hybridization experimentation as I can with rockwool and Khang Starr style mini-Kratky bottles.
 
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CaneDog said:
Seems like things are cruising along well.  I attribute your level of success to the proper involvement of adult beverages in the grow process ;)
 
And that one does look like a Zapotec to me.
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I've cut down on the beverage adultery lately, since too much time at home with my chuhai resulted in some serious weight gain... fortunately, I still have a nice variety of clean cans ready.
 
Cool! Hopefully that's what it is. :)
 
PaulG said:
All of your plants look good, 'Fish. Better
than mine. The aphids in the greenhouse
are making sick. Time to apply some soap!
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Currently starting another lazy Saturday, which I think I'm going to use to cut down a few of my Kratky bottles further. Re-watching old Khang Starr videos, his reservoirs seem to be a little less than half the size of mine, so I think I'll try that, probably with two of those Palermo seedlings (it'd be pretty funny to get a fruit that big on a plant that small) and a couple from seeds in the bank.
 
Also, it seems like instead of hydrogen peroxide, the popular thing here is sodium percarbonate, which appears to be popular for treating root rot as well... I think I may give a baking soda soak a try on my plants with root issues, and if that doesn't help, I might order some sodium percarbonate. It'll be worth it to figure that out, I think, if I can actually get the smaller-reservoir thing working without root rot.
 
Nice plants 'fish!
 
What is your dose of hydrogen peroxide? I have a few plants that aren't doing well and haven't responded to more frequent nutrient changes. I have food-grade (35%) hydrogen peroxide and I think I'll be giving it a try soon to see if that might wake them up. Online resources seem to be all over the place...
 
PaulG said:
I admire your penchant for digging in
and figuring things out, my friend!
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Nah, it's just my patented mix of stubbornness and ignorance. ;)
 
HeatMiser said:
Nice plants 'fish!
 
What is your dose of hydrogen peroxide? I have a few plants that aren't doing well and haven't responded to more frequent nutrient changes. I have food-grade (35%) hydrogen peroxide and I think I'll be giving it a try soon to see if that might wake them up. Online resources seem to be all over the place...
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Thanks!
 
I have no idea at all. 
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 For some reason hydrogen peroxide the way we have it in the states is something I just have not been able to find here, which is why I'm going to try baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and then possibly move on to sodium percarbonate, since the latter is something I've definitely read about being used for hydro root issues, and the former... might be? Both of them I can easily get here, though, so that's kind of what I'm down to. I know I can chop off basically the entire root mass and reliably have them root again in coir, but I really don't want to keep doing that, because I know I'm losing time and possibly stunting those plants.
 
Just got done dissecting a couple plastic bottles, and it turns out the rooibos tea my wife gets often has a good bottle for this.
 
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My talent with scissors is on full display.  :cool:
 
The round net cups I got for beer can grows fit well, and the assembly goes into a coozy (which I bought for those little convenience store Kratky inserts from so long ago) loosely, so this is way more in line with what those videos were showing. Unfortunately, we only had this one bottle today, so I've already started nagging my wife to drink more of that stuff.
 
I'm soaking a rock wool cube now; going to start some Sugar Rush Cream, which a Facebook/Reddit pepper friend in Japan suggested. I think she's Russian. Geography is confusing. Anyway, very interested to see if it works out as intended this time.
 
I guess the upside to screwing up the whole concept of small plants fruiting quickly is that I now have medium-size plants that are pretty much all contenders for planting out.
 
internationalfish said:
 
I have no idea at all. 
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 For some reason hydrogen peroxide the way we have it in the states is something I just have not been able to find here, which is why I'm going to try baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and then possibly move on to sodium percarbonate, since the latter is something I've definitely read about being used for hydro root issues, and the former... might be? Both of them I can easily get here, though, so that's kind of what I'm down to. I know I can chop off basically the entire root mass and reliably have them root again in coir, but I really don't want to keep doing that, because I know I'm losing time and possibly stunting those plants.
 
 
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Ha! I see, no prob 'fish... I'll try it out myself and post it in my glog, maybe you'll find it helpful some day. Good luck with the baking soda, should be a good experiment to try. I'll be checking in for the results!
 
Sorry for the spam, but I went through and redid the very approximate plans I had before. This seems more realistic.
 
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  • Sugar rush peach
  • Friggitello
  • Zapotec jalapenos
  • Corno di toro yellow
  • Palermo red
  • Ghost
They're in breeding pairs. I'll continue to try and get SRP and Friggy to get freaky; also hoping to get the ZapoCorno porno going. And if I could get a giant super-sweet crossed with a ghost, I think that'd be a pretty compelling stuffing pod. Only the corno di toro and ghost are entirely unconfirmed so far; I'm almost certain I have both growing, just not sure which is which.
 
After going over the plans and the bags, I scrapped the variety. Everyone is going into 5-gallon bags of soil with a small dose of perlite, and I ordered a 20 liter jug so I won't have to keep doing three trips up the stairs with multiple 2L bottles just to feed everything.
 
Speaking of the Palermo, I stuck one of them into one of my new Khang Starr ripoff rigs. ;)
 
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He's happily snuggled in a coozy with a reservoir of half-strength hydro nutes. At least one of his brothers will get a spot on the balcony, though he'll be quite behind.
 
The plan is to intersperse those with herb+garlic combos as pest deterrents. We were out today and I picked up two young basil plants; that's the only herb the local place has in stock this early in the season. Also planning on peppermint, bay laurel, chives, and Thai basil. Now, the nice thing about this is that these are all intended to be planted together with garlic, and it turns out the garlic I planted last year and ignored after I chopped everything else down... just kinda kept going. I have seven pretty beefy garlic plants now, and while the bulbs appear to be kinda nothing, they're healthy and happy, and should transplant just fine.
 
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I'll be starting two bags of basil+garlic tomorrow morning. Also planning plant-out for the Friggitello and SRP for next weekend, which will free up the top shelf of the tent.
 
Tent, top shelf

  • CGN 21500
  • Alma paprika
  • Yellow scotch bonnet or Sugar rush cream
  • Can grows: Lemon Starrburst, Nanbu, Trippaul Threat
Again, hoping to get the 21500 and alma crossed. The rest are just kind of gravy. Which reminds me... I still have turkey in the freezer. Mmmmm... graaaavy.  :!:
 
Tent, bottom shelf
  • Remaining current Kratky grows, probably moved to coir, until I can get seeds from them
  • Mini Kratky generation churning for crosses

So far, I'm really happy with the replacement light I got for the one that went out, but if it's going to be quick turnaround plants on the bottom, I don't know that I'm going to drop another $100 on lighting I don't need. So... pray with me, friends, that this perfectly good Chinese 300W blurple light, and also the spare perfectly good Chinese 300W blurple light I'm not using, both run away with the dish and the spoon. Then I can certainly justify buying another one of these. Yes, I am a realist!
 
I'm sad to inform you that my tiny cherry blossom tree, which already wasn't looking great at the end of last year, is now certainly quite dead. I'm pleased to report, however, that my plum tree, having survived several major bug attacks, is looking great.
 
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And while I wouldn't say that I have a problem, exactly... I was making myself a salad today, turned around to grab cheese from the fridge, and turned back to find that some random freaking pepper seed had just kind of shown up on the counter. This isn't even the first time, though the previous one was on the floor, which is at least more explicable, like "oh, must've dropped that." No, this was right there on the counter, staring at me.
 
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Joke's on you, pal, I already have too many mystery peppers. Enjoy the landfill.
 
Mildfruit said:
I love the look on the almost black pepper plants. I once had a similar colored plants from Enrico. Sounds like a very good and ambitious plan you made, fingers crossed it will turn out amazing! 
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Thanks! Yeah, the colors on some of these really are breathtaking. It's frustrating how hard it is to get a good picture, because man, it really is incredible.
 
Unfortunately, while it gets really, unhelpufully hot here in the summer, we don't get strong enough sunlight to keep that dark color outside. So while I'll be able to keep that going in the tent, the ones that go outside will end up green. Not an issue for the quality of the pods, but the plants definitely lose their impact.
 
Ghost Pepper Revolution said:
That giant pepper from the store is nuts either that or you have baby hands  :rofl:
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Well, it's actually kind of a combination, jackass. :D
 
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internationalfish said:
 
Thanks! Yeah, the colors on some of these really are breathtaking. It's frustrating how hard it is to get a good picture, because man, it really is incredible.
 
Unfortunately, while it gets really, unhelpufully hot here in the summer, we don't get strong enough sunlight to keep that dark color outside. So while I'll be able to keep that going in the tent, the ones that go outside will end up green. Not an issue for the quality of the pods, but the plants definitely lose their impact.
 
                                                           :point:
Well, it's actually kind of a combination, jackass. :D
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Too funny  :clap:
 
it is crazy how the dark plants go full green you’d think it wouldn’t happen...interesting  :think:
 
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