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a year or more LED light experience?

juanitos said:
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/58543-blisters-2016-led-coco-grow/page-4#entry1310849
 
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/57734-texas-indoor-grow-first-time-growing/page-10#entry1298855
 
leds don't have very much light penetration. they will not grow "full size" plants (like 10 ft tall plants) but they will grow small 3-4 ft tall plants.
 
if you want full sized production indoors you need HID lights.
Do you have experience with this? I have heard it both ways so im hoping to find someone who claims to have done it and see what kind of light they use. I have his lights but would rather not run them if possible because of power usage and heat.
 
MnSuperHots said:
Do you have experience with this? I have heard it both ways so im hoping to find someone who claims to have done it and see what kind of light they use. I have his lights but would rather not run them if possible because of power usage and heat.
yes but i generally use lower power leds. not the top of the line 1300$ led fixtures. i imagine they get pretty close to the same as hps.
but at that point you are paying 800-1300$ for led or 400-500$ for a 1000w de hps.
 
most people just say fuckit, they'll deal with the heat and replace the bulb every 10k hours.
 
I'm also interested in this as I'm looking to try a full grown DWC setup, and also if the mix of white light(3000K/6000K) is better or if a blue/red light(450-480nm/620-680nm) mix is better.
 
Please be someone who's an expert chime in  :tear:
 
Thats what im trying to figure out. I grew for years with HIDs and if I can get the same results with a 1500 dollar LED ill do it. Between the heat management and fan power needed for it and the fraction of electricity used it would pay off pretty quick in my opinion.
 
why don't you decorate pepper tree using LED chips?  you can use NodeMCU, Arduino or ESP to control the light.
 
I did not grow with led yet but for a good crop for sure you will need more then a single top fixture.
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http://www.lighting.philips.com/b-dam/b2b-li/en_AA/products/Horticulture/Horticulture-products/general-booklet-philips-horticulture-2015.pdf
 
MnSuperHots said:
Thats what im trying to figure out. I grew for years with HIDs and if I can get the same results with a 1500 dollar LED ill do it. Between the heat management and fan power needed for it and the fraction of electricity used it would pay off pretty quick in my opinion.
you can look at the comparison the weed guys do. peppers will be similar in size / growth.
 
peppers aren't exactly a cash crop(8-15 $/lb) vs weed(1500 $/lb) so people aren't looking to pay 800-1400$ to light 4 pepper plants. so you probably won't find many grows.
 
juanitos said:
you can look at the comparison the weed guys do. peppers will be similar in size / growth.
 
peppers aren't exactly a cash crop(8-15 $/lb) vs weed(1500 $/lb) so people aren't looking to pay 800-1400$ to light 4 pepper plants. so you probably won't find many grows.
No peppers are not a money maker, but as a hobby, and for my interest in it and the toys involved 1500 bucks wont put me in the poor house. If my energy bill doesnt make my wife ask questions and I dont have to listen to 450 cfm of air being moved in my basement but I still get full size happy pods, then victory is mine. But! I do want to hear testimony from a few sources with experience before I pull the trigger on a fancy led. I cant believe i would be the first pepper guy to do this.
 
A half decent DIY light kit should only set you back $150 - $250 if you do it right. That's what I'm looking to do. 
 
The only thing is we are a little behind the times here in Australia though so it's a little hard to find anything local.
 
MnSuperHots said:
I have 2 issues with this, the publication doesnt seem to show a date of when it was last updated or written. It could be from the 90s. My second issue is its about lettuce not peppers.
 
They are still doing it this way and plants are quite similar including lettuce and chiles.
 
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