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Bonsai Habs...2nd generation

willard3 said:
If you check Webster, a cutting is a clone.
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Well, but one building over from where I work they're doing plant cloning with lots of fancy equipment and chemicals and tissue culture and stuff, and I find it pretty fascinating, so I thought I'd ask.
 
With every clone generation, the fruit gets smaller and more picante.
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This still intrigues me. Do you think it's an artifact of the bonsai process, or would it happen with plants rooted off a series of regular-sized pepper plants?
 
The site where I got the ping-pong pic from (I can't find it now, had that pic for ages) had said that the leaves were getting smaller by one third every generation. He was trimming roots and stems to reduce the growth, as well as the tight confines of that tiny pot. He also said the pods didn't change size.
 
bentalphanerd said:
The site where I got the ping-pong pic from (I can't find it now, had that pic for ages) had said that the leaves were getting smaller by one third every generation. He was trimming roots and stems to reduce the growth, as well as the tight confines of that tiny pot. He also said the pods didn't change size.
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huh

I wonder if that's what happens with bonsai trees? Must do research!
 
Pam said:
This still intrigues me. Do you think it's an artifact of the bonsai process, or would it happen with plants rooted off a series of regular-sized pepper plants?
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What I do is clone a full-size plant and then clone the clone and so on.....keeps making smaller plants and fruits. I don't know what the limit is and I only have data on chiles.

Seem to work best with cap annuums, but also works with chinenses (tangerine bell below).

It's a great way to keep chile plants small for a small growing space.

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Willard - I have never tried cloning, only bonsai. for me the pods stayed the same size and got a deeper color. My Habs went to deep orange (as in my avatar) yours seem to get paler. I'll need a few more generations to get some solid facts down. 2nd generation are flowering now @ about 5" high & much less leaves than yours. Are they the roots over the bench there?
 
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BIGGER PIC

my office window pets - front left front is 2 birdseye, flowering at 3" tall (1 root trim). next to it is a Hab flowering at 6"(2 root trims) - at the back is another Hab ripening pods 8 1/2"(1 root trim).

The Hab I left alone (but seed came from a bonsai) is 12" high, 16" across and has 25 ripening pods on it. Woohoo :shocked:
 
Does anyone have a link that explains what happens to the plant when it's cloned?
I always though that a clone makes an exact copy of the parent without any change to size or fruits of the clone.

I want to try this with a tomato plant any idea if it would work?
 
Tomatoes are simple, just take side shoots and bury them in the shade and keep them moist. Peppers are a little trickier but not that difficult. I have not noticed pods being any different on the cloned plants although Willard mentioned that they may get more picante and smaller. The overall structure of the plant will be different than a seed plant, likely more bushy but may need extra support for bigger plants.
 
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