I see MOST of the super Hots these days from Nurseries as being not even Chinense lately.
A few are crosses , not even close to being supers,they grow the hot end of Habanero at best.
A LOT aren't even Chinense.
Too much $ per seed or plant for supers these days I think.
Unknown sources are used by Nurseries these days.
They sell the starts to nurseries,until the plant buds up and pods out,it's too late to return the plant.
I used to get whatever starts from a local nursery 5 years + ago with only a very few not being what I thought I purchased.
NOW I pay for stuff that isn't even what the label says.
NOW I get 1 out of 5 plants that are even close to what I thought I purchased.
Started a few years back with Bhuts,
Most stuff was really Fatalii peppers.
Jalapeno eaters did think they were super hot...
Now I get Cayenne type,upturned poded plants as almost any super.
EVEN the stuff sold as a thai type pepper (this year are Bells).
Trades are slightly better,crosses of supers that are almost in the super catagory or at least most times hotter than habs.
A lot of seed vendors I THINK found out that selling unstable crosses,sold as such get as much $ as any super.
They get no complaints-they sell it as a cross/unstable.
That is cool.They promised nothing.
But a TON of the varieties that used to be fairly common are either old seeds (the vendors don't grow it anymore) or they just aren't easy to find anymore.
I purchased several varieties THIS year from vendors that are crap seeds.
Most I think are old but moat are immature seeds.
Yellow,green,purple ,brown or whatever is picked at that color,though RED is probably the true ripe color.
My hands don't work right these days.
If you want me to answer your reply,I'm not ignoring you.I just can't type that day.
Also it is just what I think.
Not ragging on ALL vendors.
Just commenting on the times.
A few are crosses , not even close to being supers,they grow the hot end of Habanero at best.
A LOT aren't even Chinense.
Too much $ per seed or plant for supers these days I think.
Unknown sources are used by Nurseries these days.
They sell the starts to nurseries,until the plant buds up and pods out,it's too late to return the plant.
I used to get whatever starts from a local nursery 5 years + ago with only a very few not being what I thought I purchased.
NOW I pay for stuff that isn't even what the label says.
NOW I get 1 out of 5 plants that are even close to what I thought I purchased.
Started a few years back with Bhuts,
Most stuff was really Fatalii peppers.
Jalapeno eaters did think they were super hot...
Now I get Cayenne type,upturned poded plants as almost any super.
EVEN the stuff sold as a thai type pepper (this year are Bells).
Trades are slightly better,crosses of supers that are almost in the super catagory or at least most times hotter than habs.
A lot of seed vendors I THINK found out that selling unstable crosses,sold as such get as much $ as any super.
They get no complaints-they sell it as a cross/unstable.
That is cool.They promised nothing.
But a TON of the varieties that used to be fairly common are either old seeds (the vendors don't grow it anymore) or they just aren't easy to find anymore.
I purchased several varieties THIS year from vendors that are crap seeds.
Most I think are old but moat are immature seeds.
Yellow,green,purple ,brown or whatever is picked at that color,though RED is probably the true ripe color.
My hands don't work right these days.
If you want me to answer your reply,I'm not ignoring you.I just can't type that day.
Also it is just what I think.
Not ragging on ALL vendors.
Just commenting on the times.