chinense Carolina Reaper Has the Record Again?

The Hot Pepper said:
spicefreak, every day the last 11 months...
 
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pwned
 
spicefreak said:
 
Also interesting to note is the new new new new new origin story, including the Naga Viper. A chilli that has absolutely nothing in common with the Reaper, flavourwise.
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Interestingly, all of the origin claims have been removed from the Guinness site just 4 days later. There is now a new date for the record: 11 August 2017, and a slightly higher number for it, 1.64 million SHU. I have to wonder why they would bother resubmitting the Reaper last year, when Pepper X was supposedly going to blow the old record away. Perhaps they weren't too confident about that after all.
 
I've mentioned this before but I met Ed Currie at a hot sauce expo last year and he said it was "accepted" by Guinness just a few days prior to us talking. Not sure what "accepted" means exactly but he seemed pretty damn confident about it holding the record. Who knows though. Maybe something fell through. He told me there were all sorts of lawyers involved and blah blah blah. It's just like anything else though. When there's money to be had, shit gets complicated.
 
CPI needs to repeat their grow/test and include the reaper. I still got my money on the TSMB.

Problem with Guinness is that they are not botanists.

BTW why isn't the peak heat listed on the record anymore.
 
The Last Dab tastes great but isn't like any other hot sauce I've had.

Tastes like a super hot version of the stuff you dip shrimp in. The best use is in some spaghetti.
 
Isnt this the jum duffy thread with the names changed to protect the innocent? Lol thisnthread reinvents itself every couple years with a different cross. I will admit the reaper had a lot longer buildup(read drama) prior to coming out than most though and its seemed to extend a couple years more now.
 
Ghaleon said:
The Last Dab tastes great but isn't like any other hot sauce I've had.
Tastes like a super hot version of the stuff you dip shrimp in. The best use is in some spaghetti.
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I take it you got the red version, then? The green tastes underripe when used in any decent quantity and they still charged that much plus shipping for it.
 
News! 
In the latest Chili Klaus episode, he talked with Ed, both about the or origin of the reaper, and pepper x! 
In short: He won't say how the reaper came to be, other than some bullshit story.  Pepper x should be released in less than a year (don't get your hopes up). 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOpda9lY96M
 
Mildfruit said:
News! 
In the latest Chili Klaus episode, he talked with Ed, both about the or origin of the reaper, and pepper x! 
In short: He won't say how the reaper came to be, other than some bullshit story.  Pepper x should be released in less than a year (don't get your hopes up). 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOpda9lY96M
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We're setting the bar rather low, in terms of what qualifies as "news." So the update is, he still doesn't know where the Reaper came from/doesn't want to confess that he ganked it from Primo, and he still doesn't have a cultivar worth releasing as Pepper X. We're exactly where we've been for ages... Wondering how this dishonest, clueless failure got so much luck and wealth.

The Chile game is unfair...
 
Bicycle808 said:
We're setting the bar rather low, in terms of what qualifies as "news." So the update is, he still doesn't know where the Reaper came from/doesn't want to confess that he ganked it from Primo, and he still doesn't have a cultivar worth releasing as Pepper X. We're exactly where we've been for ages... Wondering how this dishonest, clueless failure got so much luck and wealth.

The Chile game is unfair...
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I agree, in terms of news value, I meant that he suddenly stopped claiming the naga viper as origin as he did just a few weeks ago. Or at least stopped mentioning the viper.
 
Mildfruit said:
I agree, in terms of news value, I meant that he suddenly stopped claiming the naga viper as origin as he did just a few weeks ago. Or at least stopped mentioning the viper.
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Link to Ed himself saying Viper? I know the record books briefly stated it but it would end a lot of debate if we had that impossible origin straight from the pepper's grower.
 
Mildfruit said:
I agree, in terms of news value, I meant that he suddenly stopped claiming the naga viper as origin as he did just a few weeks ago. Or at least stopped mentioning the viper.
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I hear ya and I get it. All this Smokin Ed stuff infuriates me, but I never take the fury out on the messenger.
 
spicefreak said:
 
Link to Ed himself saying Viper? I know the record books briefly stated it but it would end a lot of debate if we had that impossible origin straight from the pepper's grower.
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http://www.peppersbymail.com/reference/the_hottest_pepper_in_the_world/carolina-reaper/
 
This was my source for my claim, but you are correct. Its not Ed himself saying the Viper story, or at least I can't find it. This was the quote I was using 
 
 
His record-breaking Carolina Reaper has been ten years in the making, having meticulously worked on stabilising and testing the pepper, which is a crossing between Sweet Habanero and Naga Viper chillies.
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http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2013/11/confirmed-smokin-eds-carolina-reaper-sets-new-record-for-hottest-chilli-53033/
 
I apologise for spreading fake news :D 
 
He's said a couple of different things.

But he also got early-gen 7Primo seeds from Troy and came out with the Reaper shortly thereafter so I'm thinking the Reaper is an unstable Naga x 7Pot SR cross lol.
 
Hmm, what if he's not actually lying to us then? What if he's just one of those guys who uses "Habanero" as shorthand for "non-Naga chinense"?
 
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