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curled leaves on my Butch T's?

Hi HwyBill,

I am finding this topic really interesting. But I am most floored by your being able to tell the difference between Chinenses and Annuum plants at this very young stage. I can tell the frutescens...once they have peppers on them, but to be able to tell the plants apart...amazing. How can you? What are you looking at?

Thanks.

1) The biggest clue is the shape of the leaves
2) I've never seen a chinense get that leggy, even under leggy conditions
3) I've heard there has recently been a rash of someone selling cayenne's under the guise of being Butch Ts, and those look an awful lot like my cayennes
 
Bill you just started peppers in March right?

Small peppers are not easy id at that age.

Give the plant some to show its characteristics.
 
the cayennes i grew last year did not look like these. But i'm not saying i could not have gotten hosed when i bought the seeds.
 
Dude.. don't give that guy some false sense of hope

Those are NOT chinenses...
What a dick. This guy is some kind of botany expert? Who gives a f**k anyway? The leaves have gone back to normal. Find out over time if i got hosed on the seeds or not. At this point i could give a shit less. Karma is a bitch. Bought the seeds from the chilefarm.com. I still have a better grow room than this fool.
 
http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

Here's a top view of the supposed no butch T's

and here's a side view

http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/

here's another top view

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79761650@N04/7174294970/in/photostream/

look similar?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkPktfqxP1X0AUTWJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dtrinidad%2Bscorpion%2Bbutch%2Bt%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DSearch%2BImages%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D41&w=2032&h=1524&imgurl=www.chilliesontheweb.co.uk%2Fcommunities%2F5%2F004%2F009%2F549%2F695%2Fimages%2F4555181533.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chilliesontheweb.co.uk%2Fts-butch-t%2F4556051216&size=353+KB&name=Chinense+-+Trinidad+Scorpion+Butch+T+2011&p=trinidad+scorpion+butch+t&oid=1d141d3bbb04d0c83663162dbdd6726f&fr2=&fr=&tt=Chinense%2B-%2BTrinidad%2BScorpion%2BButch%2BT%2B2011&b=31&ni=112&no=41&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11nek5od8&sigb=13oeq89i2&sigi=12e2c663p&.crumb=LpEqR3K6kFH
 
What a dick. This guy is some kind of botany expert? Who gives a f**k anyway? The leaves have gone back to normal. Find out over time if i got hosed on the seeds or not. At this point i could give a shit less. Karma is a bitch. Bought the seeds from the chilefarm.com. I still have a better grow room than this fool.

Where did that aggressive response suddenly come from long after he wrote that and you posted other responses? Also, where is the dick part in what he wrote? Some times people don't get the plants/seeds they payed for. He believes that to be the case here like it has been in a few other threads recently where people ended up very disappointed.

From everything I've seen in my own plants and on this forum, I too had a very hard time believing those are chinenses. The leaves are far too small, too far apart, the plant is far too leggy (tall, thin, etc) - and that's compared to mine who start out under an ordinary desk lamp. If those really are chinenses, then they've really been affected by something. That said, the pictures you posted above are getting closer to what one would expect from the leaves. I guess we'll see.
 
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Don't know if this will help but this is a picture of my Butch T that I started in March also.
 
He could have worded it better than saying i have a false sense of hope. What an ass. I asked for help not some smart ass remark.
 
I will post a pic later just started growing a set a week ago which I got from one of the guys who got the trinidad scorpion butch T they have just shot out and have 2 leaves can't wait till they are old enough to go in the hydro set
 
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