D3monic's Crossing Project/Community Grow

SentencedToBurn · Mar 1, 2018

Hey I decided that I'd need to keep a single place to log all the crosses since there is gonna be a lot. I started a new thread here: http://thehotpepper.com/topic/67625-d3monics-crosses-f3-and-f4-testing just to keep a single post which I can link off to.

I figured having one post that I have to edit will get lost in the thread, and then if I post 3+ pics of every pod it'll kinda blow this out of proportion. So I'll stick to updates and a single pic of each (I suspect next 2-3 weeks I'll be doing like 10 reviews at a time), and will keep the other thread completely up to date.

This way at the end of it you'll have a single place with a complete list of every single pod, the reviews, pics, etc, so it'll be easier for you to decide what to keep, etc.

Or, let me know if you want me to chuck it all in here as I go, just I suspect it might get messy so happy as to keep the other thread updated. Your call man.

First review:

El Scorpenero F3 Plant 1

Appearance: Cayenne-like, but more bumpy. Most pods are approx 50mm / 2" long. Slightly twisted.
Colour: Peach
Heat: Roughly 700K-1M (my best guess, it's substantially hotter than a scotch bonnet but feels slightly milder than a Dorset naga). Heat lasts only approx 2 minutes. Instant kick, then it calms down relatively quickly.
Flavour/texture: the skin is a bit thick and chewy, brief initial bitterness but it went away afterwards. Not much taste itself apart from a subtle chinense-ish fruity taste.

SentencedToBurn · Mar 2, 2018

Got a few more starting to ripen. Interesting that both El Scorpenero Orange ones are ripening in stripes, and El Scorpenero Red ones are ripening from the top, except for the one at the bottom of this post which has actually gone yellow.

I'm stocked the "lemon" one is looking more yellow than orange at this point.

D3monic · Mar 2, 2018

Awesome you're getting a yellow pheno off the red. The one yellow pheno I got in f2 last season wasn't that impressive. I like the size and shape for that one.

Double Awesome that the lemon shaped pod is turning more yellow. That would be a keeper for sure as long as it doesn't taste horrible.

SentencedToBurn · Mar 2, 2018

D3monic said:
Awesome you're getting a yellow pheno off the red. The one yellow pheno I got in f2 last season wasn't that impressive. I like the size and shape for that one.

Double Awesome that the lemon shaped pod is turning more yellow. That would be a keeper for sure as long as it doesn't taste horrible.

Yeah fingers crossed it'll be something decent man. It looks too awesome to waste.

ThatBlondGuy101 · Mar 4, 2018

Haven't heard from me in a while, but here I am!

With some intriguing progress!

Turns out that the El Scorponero "Gnarly Pheno" ripens from light orange -> dark orange -> red! And takes a bleeding long time!

And, the El Scorpnero "long pheno" is a pale yellow!

And then the "short pheno" is your typical yellow, but has small tails, and looks quite Hab-like (to my eyes, anyway.)

The Gnarly Pheno. It looks, well, gnarly, but also ripens in a gnarly way - I somehow managed to take not a single picture, but it has 4 colours at once, red, dark orange, light orange, and green. It ripens from top to bottom, and the colours are almost in distinct bands. And the pods are quite large, too. can't wait to see how it tastes. Although I didn't get a progress shot, here's the result, with the most ripe on the left, and the least on the right.

Looks pretty cool, hey?

Other than a lot of gnarly El Scorponero, and a few of the other two pheno's so far, I've picked 2 Devil's Pricks, each from a different plant, but they are a lot more similar than the El S's.

They don't really seem too phallic-y, but you can see that its there... Interesting how they have the stubby rounded tail though.

Anyway, I'm going to give all of the above a bit of a taste test, depending on how I go. Will post results.

TBG. :dance:

D3monic · Mar 4, 2018

Awesome! Thanks for the update TBG. I love the way pale yellow on right looks. Top yellow are meh. Probably scrap that one. Gnarly red nice and ... well gnarly lol. Cant wait to hear how they taste

SentencedToBurn · Mar 5, 2018

Hey I fully see what TBG is saying about them ripening in a weird way, this first El Scorp Red pheno is still ripening from nearly 2 weeks ago. It's ripening from the top and there was a period it was green, yellow, orange, red. I'll try to keep an eye on it so I can take a good pic.

Also the El Scorp Orange are all still ripening in a single verticle stripe from top to bottom and then the stripe gets thicker and fills out the sides. Whatever happened to this whole El Scorpenero strain, it seems to have affected how it's ripening. Pretty awesome!

And here is another El Scorpenero Orange that's ripening the same way but just not the lemon shaped one:

And also here is the El Scorp Red F3 which seems to be ripening yellow but preserved it's "Red" pheno shape:

ThatBlondGuy101 · Mar 5, 2018

What, exactly, are the genetics on the El Scorponero?

From how I understand it, its Carbonero X Butch T Scorpion Yellow.
But Carbonero is Carbon Indian Bhut Jolokia X 7 Pot Yellow X Orange Habanero???

And each of them, along with the Yellow Butch T, wouldn't have perfect genetics I presume?

So its no wonder that the El Scorponero is doing weird sh!t, its got really messed up genetics for sure!

D3monic · Mar 6, 2018

ThatBlondGuy101 said:
What, exactly, are the genetics on the El Scorponero?

From how I understand it, its Carbonero X Butch T Scorpion Yellow.
But Carbonero is Carbon Indian Bhut Jolokia X 7 Pot Yellow X Orange Habanero???

And each of them, along with the Yellow Butch T, wouldn't have perfect genetics I presume?

So its no wonder that the El Scorponero is doing weird sh!t, its got really messed up genetics for sure!

Correct it's a 4 way cross so lots of genetics at play here.

Walchit · Mar 9, 2018

Still alive! I have d3 goats El Scorpanero and painapples too. They don't look as nice as this hogsweed though

D3monic · Mar 9, 2018

Those plants look great! .... I dont recall seeing any hogsweed in my grow. Crap. I better germ some

Walchit · Mar 9, 2018

I have 3, so probably 100% germ on them

Peter S · Mar 9, 2018

Three Hogsweed plants I started. I need to separate them out this weekend.

SentencedToBurn · Mar 9, 2018

A few more ripening up or getting close. I think I'll do a bunch of reviews on the weekend of the 24th/25th. Although a couple of pods will be ready next weekend (they've been ripe for a while).

The "Lemon" pheno is ripening up the same way. Line straight down the middle and then the sides ripen outwards.

D3monic · Mar 9, 2018

I like how big that bottom orange pheno is. That D3 giant not much of a shape unfortunately.

SentencedToBurn · Mar 10, 2018

D3monic said:
I like how big that bottom orange pheno is. That D3 giant not much of a shape unfortunately.

Hey yeah, good thing there are a few more D3 giant plants with green pods on them so will get some more variants for sure. D3 Pale Yellow though only has 1 plant with 1 pod haha.. so hopefully it'll be good.

Genetikx · Mar 10, 2018

This omni bonnet is crazy dense. None of them are growing super fast or tall, hoping that means they'll show their chinense side

D3monic · Mar 10, 2018

Genetikx said:
This omni bonnet is crazy dense. None of them are growing super fast or tall, hoping that means they'll show their chinense side

Whoa that's super dense. Mine aren't growing like that. I think last year it was growing like a chinense but looked and tasted more baccatum. Chinense flowers and was growing two per node. It was a huge bushy plant though. Didn't get overly tall but was over 4' across the top.

D3monic · Mar 10, 2018

ThatBlondGuy101 said:
Haven't heard from me in a while, but here I am!

With some intriguing progress!

Turns out that the El Scorponero "Gnarly Pheno" ripens from light orange -> dark orange -> red! And takes a bleeding long time!

And, the El Scorpnero "long pheno" is a pale yellow!

And then the "short pheno" is your typical yellow, but has small tails, and looks quite Hab-like (to my eyes, anyway.)

The Gnarly Pheno. It looks, well, gnarly, but also ripens in a gnarly way - I somehow managed to take not a single picture, but it has 4 colours at once, red, dark orange, light orange, and green. It ripens from top to bottom, and the colours are almost in distinct bands. And the pods are quite large, too. can't wait to see how it tastes. Although I didn't get a progress shot, here's the result, with the most ripe on the left, and the least on the right.

Looks pretty cool, hey?

Other than a lot of gnarly El Scorponero, and a few of the other two pheno's so far, I've picked 2 Devil's Pricks, each from a different plant, but they are a lot more similar than the El S's.

They don't really seem too phallic-y, but you can see that its there... Interesting how they have the stubby rounded tail though.

Anyway, I'm going to give all of the above a bit of a taste test, depending on how I go. Will post results.

TBG.

Did you get around to tasting any of these?

SentencedToBurn · Mar 14, 2018

Hey man, I have got hopefully a few mates coming on the 24th of March to help me test the pods that will be ripe enough to extract seeds by then, so will review them all, post findings, will dry the seeds for 5-7 days and will have them over to you asap.

I know the longer I wait the less time you have to start them, hopefully this will still be enough for you to get them going this summer.