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Epsom salt and neem oil combination
- Thread starter suchen
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what you thinking ! lol
thats o.k. my friend i'm not perfect , i get in a hurry also . neem is organic , i'm sure you'll be alright .suchen said:Used 1 tsp/qt of neem, and 2 tsp/qt of Epsom... shit. Haha.
For a dude who literally deals with aquatic herbicides every day at work you'd think I might realize it was a bad idea
Sometomes you can't mix an oil with stuff.
For instance,NEVER use an oil and sulfur compound together.
Moisture and sunlight cause a reaction that is nasty for your plants - burns the leaves up.
I don't know for sure if Magnesium Sulfate reacts with Oil.
Sulfur and Neem are both organic - it doesn't mean squat.
The reaction is what happens when most oils and sulfur mix.
Also Lime Sulfur is different than Fungicidal Sulfur.
Most Sulfur Products have a warning about using Sulfur products with oil.
I see warnings from waiting a week to 4 weeks after spraying various Sulfur products.
As I said,I don't know if Manesium Sulfate is strong enough to worry about.
I do KNOW that mixing Safer Brand Garden Fumgucide and Neem sucks.
Gotta wash off the oil first...
I sprayed Neem one day to get rid of spider mites.
Sprayed the Fungicide (12% sulfur) the next day at sunset (Sulur is a no no in the sun - creates sufuric Acid with water+sun).
By morning my plants dropped almost all their leaves.
Screwed them up big time within hours after the sulfur spray.
I used the fungicide as a preventative measure to get rid of broad mites that were also present.
Neen didn't work on them.
A hint for Spider mite control.
As it cools off at sunset they gather in clumps in the webs.
Spraying them seems to be more effective when they gather together.
Also I only spray my plants with anything after they are out of direct sun light...
I'd use caution with oils and Sulfur / Sulfates.
I'd guess you would already see if you screwed up,when I did the bad news was delivered very fast to my plants...
For instance,NEVER use an oil and sulfur compound together.
Moisture and sunlight cause a reaction that is nasty for your plants - burns the leaves up.
I don't know for sure if Magnesium Sulfate reacts with Oil.
Sulfur and Neem are both organic - it doesn't mean squat.
The reaction is what happens when most oils and sulfur mix.
Also Lime Sulfur is different than Fungicidal Sulfur.
Most Sulfur Products have a warning about using Sulfur products with oil.
I see warnings from waiting a week to 4 weeks after spraying various Sulfur products.
As I said,I don't know if Manesium Sulfate is strong enough to worry about.
I do KNOW that mixing Safer Brand Garden Fumgucide and Neem sucks.
Gotta wash off the oil first...
I sprayed Neem one day to get rid of spider mites.
Sprayed the Fungicide (12% sulfur) the next day at sunset (Sulur is a no no in the sun - creates sufuric Acid with water+sun).
By morning my plants dropped almost all their leaves.
Screwed them up big time within hours after the sulfur spray.
I used the fungicide as a preventative measure to get rid of broad mites that were also present.
Neen didn't work on them.
A hint for Spider mite control.
As it cools off at sunset they gather in clumps in the webs.
Spraying them seems to be more effective when they gather together.
Also I only spray my plants with anything after they are out of direct sun light...
I'd use caution with oils and Sulfur / Sulfates.
I'd guess you would already see if you screwed up,when I did the bad news was delivered very fast to my plants...
It only took me 1 time and less than a half hour to screw up about 400 plants at the time.
As I said.
I only researched it after the fact.
Hind site...
It's not a Don't use Epsom Salt in the soil and using Neem on the plants at the same time type thing.
It's Don't risk creating a chemical reaction by spraying them over each other at the same time or whatever.
It might cause a reaction when both are sprayed on the plant at the same time or too close together.
I'm not a fan of Foliar feeding plants anyway.
Leaves are for turning sunlight into good stuff for the plant.
Roots are for feeding the plant-both are designed for what they do.
I'd love to see a study that prevents run off with foliar feeding.
Especially organic stuff - fungus problems etc.
I DO think the organic stuff people use would be better used in the soil.
I've never seen a study that says they PROTECTED the soil from run off from the spray.
Why cloud up a leaf with whatever you are coating them with?
I think it's like putting sun glasses on your plant.
I think low doses of ferts. every time you water is what works best.
At least for me.
I've probably tried about most of the popular teas,ferts. etc.
I get no real improvement in pots as far as I can tell for the most part between just adding the same stuff while watering and spraying my plants.
I wouldn't use straight Magnesium Sulfate without mixing it in water first.
My pump sprayer gets a lot of use adding stuff to my soil when they don't need water yet but I think they need a shot of whatever fert.
The salts could possibly burn roots if you didn't water it in good enough using straight Epsom salt.
BUT I grow in pots ONLY.
Might be cool in a raised garden or in soil.
I don't know.
As I said.
I only researched it after the fact.
Hind site...
It's not a Don't use Epsom Salt in the soil and using Neem on the plants at the same time type thing.
It's Don't risk creating a chemical reaction by spraying them over each other at the same time or whatever.
It might cause a reaction when both are sprayed on the plant at the same time or too close together.
I'm not a fan of Foliar feeding plants anyway.
Leaves are for turning sunlight into good stuff for the plant.
Roots are for feeding the plant-both are designed for what they do.
I'd love to see a study that prevents run off with foliar feeding.
Especially organic stuff - fungus problems etc.
I DO think the organic stuff people use would be better used in the soil.
I've never seen a study that says they PROTECTED the soil from run off from the spray.
Why cloud up a leaf with whatever you are coating them with?
I think it's like putting sun glasses on your plant.
I think low doses of ferts. every time you water is what works best.
At least for me.
I've probably tried about most of the popular teas,ferts. etc.
I get no real improvement in pots as far as I can tell for the most part between just adding the same stuff while watering and spraying my plants.
I wouldn't use straight Magnesium Sulfate without mixing it in water first.
My pump sprayer gets a lot of use adding stuff to my soil when they don't need water yet but I think they need a shot of whatever fert.
The salts could possibly burn roots if you didn't water it in good enough using straight Epsom salt.
BUT I grow in pots ONLY.
Might be cool in a raised garden or in soil.
I don't know.