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Fade's Grow Log 2010

Well its been a long time since I last posted on the forum due to being very busy.
I hope all is well with everyone, and that you had a very happy new year!
Here are some pics of what I'm currently growing.

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My Yellow Scotch Bonnets that are planted in ground are loaded and continue to be heavy producers.

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Some Chocolate Habs
 
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POTAWIE said:
Looks like a lot of aphid damage to me. Can you purchase ladybugs or other natural predators?
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I have not seen aphids so far but I have seen fine spider webs a few times on the yellow 7 pod and red savina.
I have never seen any pests on the fatali plant but its leaves are starting to also look weird. I really cant see how any pest could be eating my plants with the treatments i have been applying.
I could purchase ladybugs online but when this problem started happening I had a very healthy population of ladybugs.

As a precaution I have been keeping my new healthy seedling plants away from any plants that show signs of this issue.
Also I am giving them regular spraying as a preventative measure to find out if it really is a bug issue or something else.
 
FadeToBlack said:
I am beggining to wonder if this is some type of disease the plant contracts from aphids or mites.
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I wonder! It sure does seem like it, doesn't it? I have been thinking the exact same thing. I went pretty hard with miticide for a while there and haven't seen a mite web in quiet some time, but the damage still continues.

It's funny you say that about the Choc Habs too... My Choc Hab hasn't been affected at all either! Apart from a little bit of sun burn, it's really taking off now.

What about Dorset Nagas, are you growing them? Of all my infected plants, they are the only ones to recover from whatever it is (not holding my breath on how long that will last though).

Very strange........
 
Fade...

I'm in S Florida...not far from you.....

I have experienced the same problem you are having with plants that were beautiful and then turned for the worse...

I never figured out why, but I'm wondering if it is calcium related......do you ever use bone meal??

This year's potted plants are all acting differently despite being treated the same...some are thriving but a lot are pale and stunted (maybe due to the 12 days of intense sunlight we had...

Unfortunately I have a few plants (now at the other end of the patio) that are looking like yours ...mine are Carib Reds.....when I saw the funky curled leaves coming out I snipped them and sprayed heavy doses of dish soap and water as I did find a few aphids on the plants. We'll see what happens. In the past the plants effected were Jalapeños and hab varieties...

Great post, I hope someone helps out...

Where are you going in FLA?
 
Hey Fade check out this link...

CDtv looks like exactly what my plants have had in recent years and possibly (God I hope not) this year..... that picture looks EXACTLY like what my plants perished from....

I have really battled white flies in recent years, especially since the whole ficus white fly infestation in FL and my lunatic neighbor who has Ficus planted everywhere ...soon to invade my sewer pipes....

What do you think?

http://www.avrdc.org/LC/pepper/whitefly.pdf
 
After reading more and more (The Pepper Garden circa 1993).....I'm guessing some sort of virus.....not neccesarily the one above....don't know if it's treatable..
 
Hey bossman,

Of those three pictures in the whitefly article the first one on the left looks exactly like the problem i have been having.
When I thought about virusus, I thought that once your plant got them it was over for it. But those healthy Chocolate habs have also suffered to some extent and then regrew foliage.
I'm really glad you found that article, I feel like I'm finally making some headway to figuring it out, instead of me pulling my hair out.

By the way I will be staying in the Ft. Lauderdale area in South FL.

Feel free to post some of your sick plants here, im curious to see what they look like.

Also Bossman, have you ever been able to show one of your plants to a specialist at a nursery? Maybe they could verify one way or another?
 
FadeToBlack said:
Hey bossman,

Of those three pictures in the whitefly article the first one on the left looks exactly like the problem i have been having.
When I thought about virusus, I thought that once your plant got them it was over for it. But those healthy Chocolate habs have also suffered to some extent and then regrew foliage.
I'm really glad you found that article, I feel like I'm finally making some headway to figuring it out, instead of me pulling my hair out.

By the way I will be staying in the Ft. Lauderdale area in South FL.

Feel free to post some of your sick plants here, im curious to see what they look like.

Also Bossman, have you ever been able to show one of your plants to a specialist at a nursery? Maybe they could verify one way or another?
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Fade I'm in Delray...30 mins north of Ft Lauderdale..The very first pic in the top left is the one that my plants in recent years looked like...As I said, I had terrible whitefly infestation...

This year, so far most plants are just OK, some exceptional, and only a few appear to have this issue...When I get a chance I'll post photos...BTW The leaf that you are holding looks EXACTLY what mine looked like...

I'm going to move the not so healthy plants outside of my screened patio to the east side of the house to try to prevent the spread of a virus if that turns out to be what it is...

I've never talked to a specialist at a nursery, but a friend of a friend owns a local tomato and pepper farm in Boynton Beach for generations...if I can contact him I will...I'm sure he'll know the answer....They grow habs too, so it's the right variety of plant...

We'll figure it out....
 
Thanks for the info Bossman.

As far as white flies, I have noticed some dispersing from the plants whenever I sprayed them but never thought much of them.
I would see a few of them flying around my seedlings everytime i watered them but never noticed them doing any damage so it never entered my mind.
I have some basil plants growing next to my peppers out in the garden that are never touched by bugs. And I dont like spraying them because as you know you eat the leaves.
I've only seen this leaf problem in pepper plants, both sweet and hot varieties at multiple locations on the island.

Im sure we will get to the bottom of it with persistance.
 
have you checked your PH level? sorry if someone already asked this but i didn't read ALL of it, just your posts with pics :D..

either way i just want you to know that you make me want to move to closer to the equator looking at these plants they just look so happy.
i've had problems with weird leaves and some of it was water temperature, once it was PH, once it was just it getting used to life under a new light/sun.
Good Luck and beautiful plants / pods.

if you still want tdad scorpion i SHOULD lord willing have some close to pure seeds at the end of the season that i could trade you for something.
 
TPP I have checked the PH and it is in normal range between 6 - 7
Also thanks for the offer of the Scorpion seeds. Fortunatly I have had some sent to me by kind members of the forum.
 
While I was here in Florida I decided to go out to home depot and buy some items to battle pests, and also some Fertilizers.

Here are some of the things I piced up to try against pests. I'm hoping they are a bit more safe than the Malathion I have been using.
Also the jug of Nuti-Cal I purchased directly from the company to give that a try. It is supposed to increase yield and and fruit size b y foliar feeding.

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Here are 2 Espoma products i bought, one is a time release fertilizer and the other is a PH reducer. I already own Garden Lime made by the same company.

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Will keep you guys informed when i test out the products.
 
Looks like you have the armory well stocked with munitions.

I just don't understand why you need both something to increase PH (lime) as well as something to drop PH (the acidifier)?
 
Well I bought it just in case i ever needed it. I recently tested a few potted plants that the PH was getting kinda high.
Not sure if it was the cheap meter or if it was indeed accurate.

The 3 mile long island I live on has non of these supplies available, so i try and stock up when i take trips to the US.
 
The liquid PH test kits are more reliable IMO, don't need calibrating, are cheap and no probe or batteries to replace. :)

Meters can be more accurate down to decimal points if you spend the money on the good ones and keep them calibrated, but in the end all you need to shoot for is a good PH range and the decimals aren't needed.
 
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