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First Time Indoor Grow

I started my first attempt at indoor growing starting around July or August this year, starting with seeds from Sandia Seed - Tombstone Ghost Chili's, Trinidad Moruga Scorpions, and Carolina Reapers. I started all on a rack using a heated seed starter pad set to 75°F, under two sets of Ecolux T5 bulbs in generic shop light housings in some organic seed starter soil mix.

I'm using a cheap 8x4x8 tent space, with approximately half of it devoted to these peppers, and the other half devoted to super sweet 100 cherry tomato plants. The lights are generic "800W" LED lights, one per side of the tent. I have two stationary fans, one located near a fresh air intake, one located at the top of the tent. I have CO2 feeding for 1200ppm automated for fifteen minutes early in the morning, with an exhaust fan timed to run fours hours after the feed ends until it is time for the next feed, with the feeder located centrally at the top of the tent.

Seeds were transplanted directly to the tent in approximately mid-September. As a newb to indoor growing, and trying to shop locally, I ended up getting Fox Farm's Ocean Forest soil to try to be organic. I also picked up their Big Bloom organic fertilizer just in case.

After transplanting several times into bigger pots, I finally settled on the sizes that I have now, although I'd like to switch all pots up to the largest size I have, which were leftover tree pots from the local shop. Anyways, plants were growing steadily and quite happily with just the lighting and air flow. I started adding fertilizer, less frequently than directed, and figuring out how to time CO2 feeding efficiently. The plants were really picking up and taking off, tons of flowers, branches, etc. I tried topping all plants relatively early, and they all seemed to respond well. I've been pretty abusive thus far, to be honest, and keep all detritus and weak growth removed.

Frost came early, and this is a new home to me. Despite my space being insulated, it was not insulated enough to keep temperatures from staying in the 60's, and eventually into the 50's. The plants were stunted for a month.

I rushed to find a heating solution, attempting heat lamps to start with, but these proved insufficient to raise the temperature by more than 3°F. I gave up mid October and bought an electric, oil based radiator with a set temp range of 65-80 and an energy saving mode. I initially ramped the temperature up to a constant 75°F, and removed all previous flowers (which were in abundance). The plants have taken well to the temperature, and I have recently switched to 80°F during the day, 65°F during the night. Throughout the grow so far, the humidity has remained 50-70% usually, though sometimes dipping down into the 35% range.

Here are the plants as they are today, the 5th of December.
 
So far 2 Santa Fe Grande, 4 Stavros Pepperoncini, 3 Peppadew, 3 Bishop's Crown, and 1 Aji Pineapple are sprouting. 
I watered the tent earlier in a rush, and did not take stock of how they are fairing. I have been out of the area as much as possible to prevent any additional cold air getting in. The temperatures have been staying between 72-82 in the tent, and I will be giving them all a good once over, add fertilizer, and attend to the lowest, oldest growth of my tomatoes this weekend.
 
Alright so now we are at:
0 Primo X Lemon Drop
0 Sugar Rush Peach (1 might be popping)
2 Pink Tiger X Peach Bhut (Thin Pheno)
2 CGN 21500
3 Bishops Crown
1 Aji Pineapple

4 Habanada
6 Stavros Pepperoncini
3 Peppadew
0 Brazilian Starfish Orange

3 Palmyra
2 Santa Fe Grande
1 Hangjiao #9 (One more is popping)

I also went over everything in the tent over the weekend. A lot more flowers, no new fruits. Pollinated everything with a q-tip again. Today when I checked, two of my not sure (Ghost, Scorpion, or Reaper) plant's peppers were bright orange. We finally get to post some up for sale through our co-op, we will see if anyone wants them. I am excited to try them and see how they're turning out.  I attached some pics of the 3 Trinidad Moruga Scorpions that are actually growing, a pic of my starter set-up as it is now, and the ripened pods I found today. Maybe someone can ID the pods? 

Tonight after work I have to go grab a few more ballasts (the wife is eager to get the rest of our garden started, and put plant starts up for sale when the season comes) as well as more potting and starting soil. If the price differential is small enough, I will probably switch up to LEDs for starting.
 

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Instead of getting new lights, I opted to get some LED T8 bulbs in a 10-pack, thinking we had some T-8 or T-12 fluorescent fixtures that had gone bad. I picked up four T8 Instant Start ballasts, and upon coming home found that really only two ballasts needed replaced, and they were old and older T12's. I have figured out how to rewire in the instant start ballast with all of the otherwise existing hardware, and now have two two bulb, LED fixtures for the starting rack. Kind of impressed myself, as I just went off of the wiring diagram and feeling things out as I went, it was tough to find a direct guide to what exactly I was doing. I recorded videos of the process, I am pondering maybe putting them together for a DIY conversion video if there'd be any interest. The ballasts were $15 each, with the bulbs running $4-5 a piece, I feel like this is a decent way to save and conserve while upgrading from fluoro to LEDs.
 
My wife posted one package of our first ripe peppers for sale through our co-op. They sold pretty much as soon as their online ordering system opened up. I've noticed working the few hours I put in with the co-op that customers have really been going towards super-hot based products (we have a new chocolate producer who has a variety of hot-sauce mixed chocolate bars, some with reaper flakes, as well as a producer selling kraut and kimchi made with ghosts.) If demand keeps up over the Summer, my wife and I have decided we will just move fully developed, productive plants into the grow tent at the end of the season, and hopefully the tent itself will be much more productive. We will see what happens when the time comes. We do have more peppers popping in the tent now though, and all plants are putting out a number of flowers. Things are really looking up. I think I will probably do some more modification in the tent - I think I am going to put the "intake" fan on a timer which is set opposite of the exhaust fan, so as to decrease the amount of cold air "blow-by" that passes through the tent when both are running, I think that is really making the heater work overtime.

In other news, I did the T12 fluoro to T8 LED conversion to a total of four fixtures, and then re-arranged how my fixtures attach to the grow rack to spread them out. I took all the viable starts from my initial round of seeding and moved them into pots with individual tags, and moved them to a shelf with a donated 4'x2.5' heat mat, and under a couple new fixtures. I was able to move over:
2x Aji Pineapple 
4x Habanada (3 are the same pheno, all green, with 1 being purple)
5x Stavros Pepporncini
4x Bishop's Crown
2x Pink Tiger X Peach Bhut (thin pheno) - these two are distinct from each other, one with purple leaves with green striations, the other all green
1x Primo X Lemon Drop
2x CGN 21500 (like the PTxPB, these are clearly different phenos, one mostly purple with green striations, the other vice-versa, one is now growing purely green leaves)
3x Hangjiao #9
2x Peppadew
1x Santa Fe Grande
4x Palmyra

It appeared that in a few cases, I could have had more viable seedlings had I spread the seeds out to different cells, so I started one more seed-starter tray with 32 cells, and put in a single seed for each cell. I did four seeds of 8 varieties:
Ausilio Thin Skin Italian (from Seed Savers Exchange, a hot bell pepper developed by an Italian family on the same side of town as myself)
Big Caramel Mama X
Black Hungarian
Brazilian Starfish Orange
Cheiro Creme
Fatalii Orange
Hangjiao #3
P. Dreadie Scotch Bonnet

Depending on the variety, I will probably end up just keeping one plant, maybe two, of the variety. It really depends on how many peppers we have pop up. I started seeds for my wife, and we have some artichoke popping up now, a single rosemary, and a lot of poblanos which have yet to rear their heads. We will have a lot more coming to be seeded, so space may be limited if I want more. I've attached pics of the progress I have been making.
 
 

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Things are getting into swing here as it starts looking more and more like Spring.
I got the heater/temp/air circulation/ventilation situation in the tent figured out where it would hit around 82 degrees before the heater would turn down or turn off - just a few days before temperatures started to actually mellow out outdoors of course. Oh well, now I know for future years how to set my tent up better. 

It's getting close to time for me to start moving my larger starts out into the tent until it reaches more Summer-like temperatures outdoors. My largest starts are:
2 x Peppadew
4 x Palmyra
2 x Bishop's Crown
1 x CGN 21500
1 x Hangjiao #9
1 x Santa Fe Grande

I have in the first neighboring tray on  my bottom rack:
2 x Pink Tiger x Peach Bhut 
2 x Hangjiao #9
2 x Bishop's Crown
1 x CGN 21500
1 x Primo x Lemon Drop
1 x Stavros Pepporncini
 
The next tray has:
4 x Habanada
3 x Stavros Pepperoncini
2 x Aji Pineapple
 
I also have a tray of artichokes that are coming along healthily along the same row.
 
On my middle row, I have some seedling transplants that were done recently:
3 x Cheiro Creme
2 x Ausilio Thin Skin Italian
1 x Black Hungarian
1 x Brazilian Starfish Orange
1 x Big Caramel Mama X
1 x Fatalii Orange
1 x Hangjiao #3
 
I will probably try to pop some more seeds, maybe some of the varieties I have few plants of, or maybe a few of the different varieties I have seen. Kind of disappointed, this last round everything popped except for the P. Dreadie Scotch Bonnets. Along the same row, I have a tray of Broccoli, Tomatillo, and Basil starts.

In my top row I currently have the tray for my seedling starts. I may give the stragglers another week, we'll see. There's 1 Fatalii Orange that needs transplanted there. I also have starts of Ground Cherry and Cilantro, and I am trying to get some peace lily seeds to pop but no luck so far.

Attached are pics of the tent (as of last week or so) and the rack (as of today). And some of the fruits in the tent (as of a week and a half or so ago).
 

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Wermland said:
Awesome setup you get there! Those LEDs seems to produce some great results. Have you ever tried using MH/HPS lights instead and if so did you notice and big difference?
Thanks! I haven't tried any other type of indoor setup, this is my first time growing indoors. I think having twice the light would have been better, but not too shabby for two $100 Amazon LEDs!
 
Some beautiful pods coming along, Zach!
 
Will be great to see some color on those!
 
Seeing results like these makes me very interested in LEDs. Having to deal with ballasts and the heat from HPS/MH is quite a pain sometimes.

Some time in the near future I'm gonna do a proper side by side comparison using LEDs vs MH/HPS.

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Thanks! I've actually set out my tallest starts in the tent now, right in the middle raised up on 5 gallon buckets. Despite their distance from the lights even they seem to respond well to the cheap LEDs. I've seen one video of a true side by side of metal halides vs LEDs by black dog lights or a similar name on YouTube, I'd be interested in seeing your results as well!
 
Long time no updates. Peppers have been outdoors, hardening off since Sunday. Last weekend I tilled 1200 sq ft or so of new garden space, and we put a fence up, created walkways, applied enough mulch to cover them, and have this space half filled. Had a plant sale at my coop today, mostly sold peppers, ground cherries, and a few flower starts. Made $78, brought around $350 worth of starts with me. Apparently none of the producers sold much, crappy weather seemed to keep many potential customers away. Better than nothing!

Been working for my state's first organic certified farm since classes have been out. This weekend all the peppers should be in the ground, including what hasn't sold (besides freebies I promised my CO2 people.) I'm kind of happy some didn't sell, as the more I talked about them to potential customers, the more I realized I need them in my life. Would photo update, but my file size limit is approaching and funds are tightttttt.

*I just realized how long it's really been. I also built a second seed starter rack which is in our cool basement, been using that for colder weather crops. It's amazing to see how many of my starts have actual peppers on them (especially the hangjiaos, the pepperoncini, and the bishops crown). C'mon summer!
 
Okay, so I guess it's time I actually got to doing my photo-semi-update.
This is how packed the grow tent got before the plant sale I had,
The older plants:
 
A middle view:

The babies:

 
The new seed starter rack I built and put in the basement for cooler weather/germinating plants:
 


 
 
Someone mentioned I needed pics of the pods when ripe, here's a Tombstone Ghost:


 
A Trinidad Moruga Scorpion:

 
The Trinidad Moruga Scorpion that destroyed an entire week of mine (couldn't sleep due to cap-cramps, got sick after working till 1 am the next day)
 
 



 
Here's one I tried afterwards, a little bit less ripe:

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Here's the overall garden design/expansion/redesign - we have a whole lot more planted since these pics were taken, and much more is in the works:
Seating area/fire pit/garden shed/squash patch:

 
Old garden area that we used for all our non-squash, non-bean produce last year:

 
This is the redesigned/new area - up until the end of the garlic patch, we added at the end of last year. The rest is all new, and each patch is a companion planted patch.
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Sorry - had to edit previous post - my Crtl functions aren't working right with the keyboard, had to re-post most pictures.
Here's the plants as they moved out of the tent, and I did not let them acclimate slowly - they have gotten beaten up a little bit, but they all survived the hardening off process. The old plants are far thinner as I really cut and trimmed them down a  week before they were moved out:
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When it comes to photo-updates, I will have to get some better photos as we finish up setting up this garden. I have photos of each of the transplants in front of an 18" subwoofer to have a frame of reference of their size. I might add them if there is any interest. Sorry for the delay.
 
Haha.  All those 8mg pictures are blowing out my browser, but things are looking good!  Really like your new seed starter rack.  Gives me an idea I could implement at my place next year that would make things a good bit easier.
 
Would totally be interested in seeing isolated pics of at least a few of your special/cool varieties.
 
 
EDIT - now I see your yard pics as well and it looks like a great set up.  Plenty of room for a lot of production! 
 
Good stuff.
 
Thanks for the feedback. Is it possible to make the images downsized/thumbnail sized as I post them? I looked for a thumbnail version link, but no such luck with Photobucket that I can see.
Here's a Hangjiao #3 - putting out peppers pretty quickly, despite having the worst edema I have seen on my indoor plants:


 
The Black Hungarian giving me some purple flowers:

 
Bishop's Crown, Peppadew, Brazilian Starfish Orange, Palmyra - all of these got super-tall!




 
The one Santa Fe Grande healthy seedling I got is the first to put out a ripe/semi-ripe pepper:

 
Just as a side note - I got 5 Stavros Pepperoncini plants, and by the plant sale (5/9), 4/5 of these had several peppers started. Here's one:

 
I had trouble with the pics only when you were first posting and i think maybe because I was trying to read while you were making changes. No issues now.  I usually reduce the size of my pics before uploading them, but not always - sometimes it's nice to be able to click in for a close-up look.
 
Plants are looking good. Those Black Hungarian flowers are especially cool. And my bishop's crown also is on a mission for height.  Don't really remember that from last year. 
 
So, I'm wondering, can you just crank up the bass and shake the flowers into self-pollinating?  ;)
 
Anyhow, good stuff.  Looking forward to seeing you get those out into your yard and them really taking off!
 
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