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Habbies Update - June 24th 2009
- Thread starter RichardK
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Habaneros only originate from the Yukitan Penensula (sp?). +1 on Willard.
imaguitargod said:
The name came from the fact that europeans thougt that all pepper imported from over the pond came from Havana on Cuba.
So if we go back to the real origin of the name "habanero" it's just another way of saying "chile". (Or chilli, chili, hot pepper or whatevva) Go back to the 16th century and even a freakkin jalapeno would have been a habanero - a term that was coined in Europe by people who knew nothing about Capsicums.
-25 on Willard, who I'm sure know what people mean even though he sounds like a broken record for some reason....
Just to keep the broken record spinning:
"The second nomenclature problem is with the word habanero (sometimes erroneously spelled habañero), when it is used in English to represent the entire chinense species. That appellation is a misnomer because there are dozens--if not hundreds--of pod types within the species, and the Spanish name habanero technically refers to a specific pod type from the Yucatán Peninsula. But because consumers in the United States were familiar with the Mexican peppers, habanero became the buzz word for the species--even to the point where writers were calling the Scotch bonnet a type of "habanero." Wrong. The Scotch bonnet and habanero are different pod types of the same species"
http://www.fiery-foods.com/index.ph...abanero&catid=153:chinense-species&Itemid=149
"The second nomenclature problem is with the word habanero (sometimes erroneously spelled habañero), when it is used in English to represent the entire chinense species. That appellation is a misnomer because there are dozens--if not hundreds--of pod types within the species, and the Spanish name habanero technically refers to a specific pod type from the Yucatán Peninsula. But because consumers in the United States were familiar with the Mexican peppers, habanero became the buzz word for the species--even to the point where writers were calling the Scotch bonnet a type of "habanero." Wrong. The Scotch bonnet and habanero are different pod types of the same species"
http://www.fiery-foods.com/index.ph...abanero&catid=153:chinense-species&Itemid=149
But hardly anyone cares 
Like the article says, there are so many different pod types, you cant make a name for all of them, so I dont see a problem in redefining the habanero name to a select few chinense varieties.
After all, the name chinense was wrong and nobody every changed that! It's a tradition! So lets keep it going!
Like the article says, there are so many different pod types, you cant make a name for all of them, so I dont see a problem in redefining the habanero name to a select few chinense varieties.
After all, the name chinense was wrong and nobody every changed that! It's a tradition! So lets keep it going!
RichardK said:
Yeah! There is something to obsess about!
What about all those chiles grown in Asia now? Can we really talk about 'Thai' chiles when they really are from SA?
And the seeds we are trading? Do I really grow Naga Morich when I have no way of knowing that there has been no cross in the last.... 50 generations?
I obsess over counting things, walking on a different color with my right foot, and touching evenly spaced sign poles and parking meters....but I really try not to do these things.....MrArboc said:
imaguitargod said:
That is my point. Common names are common names. There is nothing scientific about it, the only thing that matters is that the people involved know what they are talking about.
Lighten up, we hobby growers aren't keeping a gene-bank anyway. Willow3 probably would have a heart attack if he saw a "habanero that is a chinense but not a habanero" in a European supermarket.
If I lighten up any more I will be rivaling the sun....and the sun doesn't like to be rivaled...MrArboc said:
